Alan & Brenda Leonard

> Norway is nice. And all those tall blond men are easy on the eyes
> too.....

But Shyrley,

They speak Norwegian there! I'm tierd of living someplace where I have to
think every time I open my mouth, even to order a coke! (Although thinking
before I open my mouth does mean that I don't put my foot in it so
often....)

brenda

Kelli Traaseth

You know what tho'? Everyone I talked with there, spoke English! It actually was kind-of sad.
Kelli
Alan & Brenda Leonard <abtleo@...> wrote:
> Norway is nice. And all those tall blond men are easy on the eyes
> too.....

But Shyrley,

They speak Norwegian there! I'm tierd of living someplace where I have to
think every time I open my mouth, even to order a coke! (Although thinking
before I open my mouth does mean that I don't put my foot in it so
often....)

brenda


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In a message dated 10/16/02 8:57:53 PM Central Daylight Time,
kellitraas@... writes:


> You know what tho'? Everyone I talked with there, spoke English! It
> actually was kind-of sad.
> Kelli
> Alan & Brenda Leonard <abtleo@...> wrote:
> > Norway is nice. And all those tall blond men are easy on the eyes
> > too.....

No, what is sad isn't that they speak English, its that Americans don't speak
more diverse languages. I've traveled all over and in most countries people
are, at the least, bilingual. Americans have a very narrow view, I hear
comments like *If your gonna live here, speak the language.* How sad that
people here don't want to broaden their horizons!
~Nancy


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Kelli Traaseth

Exactly, Nancy. That's why I'm excited that we might get to take a Norwegian class here in our town!
To me its sad that the traditions of old Norway are disappearing. I have a goal of learning alot of the old arts and recipes so my daughters can keep up the traditions. I know I'm American, but I still enjoy those things and I think its fun to share these things with my children and hopefully my grandchildren.
We are hopefully going to make a bunad, the old religious dresses. I just have to bone up on my sewing skills. I can do lots of things with my needle and thread but I have a heck of a time with a darn machine!
Kelli
Dnowens@... wrote:In a message dated 10/16/02 8:57:53 PM Central Daylight Time,
kellitraas@... writes:


> You know what tho'? Everyone I talked with there, spoke English! It
> actually was kind-of sad.
> Kelli
> Alan & Brenda Leonard <abtleo@...> wrote:
> > Norway is nice. And all those tall blond men are easy on the eyes
> > too.....

No, what is sad isn't that they speak English, its that Americans don't speak
more diverse languages. I've traveled all over and in most countries people
are, at the least, bilingual. Americans have a very narrow view, I hear
comments like *If your gonna live here, speak the language.* How sad that
people here don't want to broaden their horizons!
~Nancy


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Shyrley

On 17 Oct 02, at 3:33, Dnowens@... wrote:

> In a message dated 10/16/02 8:57:53 PM Central Daylight Time,
> kellitraas@... writes:
>
>
> > You know what tho'? Everyone I talked with there, spoke English!
> > It actually was kind-of sad. Kelli Alan & Brenda Leonard
> > <abtleo@...> wrote:
> > > Norway is nice. And all those tall blond men are easy on the eyes
> > > too.....
>
> No, what is sad isn't that they speak English, its that Americans
> don't speak more diverse languages. I've traveled all over and in most
> countries people are, at the least, bilingual. Americans have a very
> narrow view, I hear comments like *If your gonna live here, speak the
> language.* How sad that people here don't want to broaden their
> horizons! ~Nancy
>

I did think of saying that but whenever I say something that might
be construed to be unflattering towards the US people jusmp all
over me cos I'm foreign. So I didn't.
The English aren't much better at languages but they are at least
aware that there are other ones. I remeber helping an American
couple in France who were moaning that they couldn't understand
the hotel manager even when he spoke English. It was deeply
embaressing watching this couple so I stepped in and translated
for them. The guy then turned to me and said 'these Europeans
should be grateful for us winning the war, they are lucky they're not
all speaking German now'
I resisted the urge to poke him in the eye and just gave him false
directions to the Arc de Triomphe. For some reason he thought
that because I was English I would be on his side, failing obviously
to realise that the English are European too.

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Shyrley


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In a message dated 10/17/02 9:46:16 AM Central Daylight Time,
shyrley.williams@... writes:


> The guy then turned to me and said 'these Europeans
> should be grateful for us winning the war, they are lucky they're not
> all speaking German now'
> I resisted the urge to poke him in the eye and just gave him false
> directions to the Arc de Triomphe. For some reason he thought
> that because I was English I would be on his side, failing obviously
> to realise that the English are European too.
>
> Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
>
> Shyrley

Ohhh! @@ that one is my favorite! I don't know how many times I hear my own
father, who traveled all over, who speaks I don't know how many languages,
say we would all be speaking the *mother tongue* or *imperial Japanese* and
we would all be blonde blue eyed, skinny, and I won't repeat the rest but
lets just say it has to do with slurs on Asian features. So its not even an
American who doesn't know other languages thing. Its more of a bad winner
thing. Its like people feel the need to constantly remind the world that the
US won the war. And its not just W.W.II either. I have heard people say to my
favorite waitress at my fav. restaurant things like *Bet your ole queenie
over there is still sore she doesn't own us any more.* (as if the
Revolutionary war happened just last year) I really get a kick out of her
telling people she is Australian. One guy asked if it wasn't the same thing.
I have heard people make rude comments to German people and every single
Vietnam Vet I know calls just about every person of Asian descent a lovely
little name. I see the same thing happening with people who have been in many
of the middle-eastern countries. There is a constant measuring stick
Americans hold up to the rest of the world. I am sure if there was a locker
room with a man from every country, the American man would be the first to
whip it out and call *Biggest* Then there would be an arm wrestling contest.
But the American would win that by default only because he insulted all the
other men so much that they all left.

~Nancy who has been guilty of it herself and really should get off the box
now. <g>


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Kelli Traaseth

Nancy, I agree with you, but unfortunately bigotry and racism is alive in all countries and cultures. sad
Kelli
Dnowens@... wrote:In a message dated 10/17/02 9:46:16 AM Central Daylight Time,
shyrley.williams@... writes:


> The guy then turned to me and said 'these Europeans
> should be grateful for us winning the war, they are lucky they're not
> all speaking German now'
> I resisted the urge to poke him in the eye and just gave him false
> directions to the Arc de Triomphe. For some reason he thought
> that because I was English I would be on his side, failing obviously
> to realise that the English are European too.
>
> Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
>
> Shyrley

Ohhh! @@ that one is my favorite! I don't know how many times I hear my own
father, who traveled all over, who speaks I don't know how many languages,
say we would all be speaking the *mother tongue* or *imperial Japanese* and
we would all be blonde blue eyed, skinny, and I won't repeat the rest but
lets just say it has to do with slurs on Asian features. So its not even an
American who doesn't know other languages thing. Its more of a bad winner
thing. Its like people feel the need to constantly remind the world that the
US won the war. And its not just W.W.II either. I have heard people say to my
favorite waitress at my fav. restaurant things like *Bet your ole queenie
over there is still sore she doesn't own us any more.* (as if the
Revolutionary war happened just last year) I really get a kick out of her
telling people she is Australian. One guy asked if it wasn't the same thing.
I have heard people make rude comments to German people and every single
Vietnam Vet I know calls just about every person of Asian descent a lovely
little name. I see the same thing happening with people who have been in many
of the middle-eastern countries. There is a constant measuring stick
Americans hold up to the rest of the world. I am sure if there was a locker
room with a man from every country, the American man would be the first to
whip it out and call *Biggest* Then there would be an arm wrestling contest.
But the American would win that by default only because he insulted all the
other men so much that they all left.

~Nancy who has been guilty of it herself and really should get off the box
now. <g>


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