Jeff & Diane Gwirtz

> I'm on the fence with the math drills, but here is my concern:
> Paint, messy paint, -takes longer to set up and clean up than for them to
> paint- Paint!
>
My kids are older now, but years ago we had an easel that we then
set on a plastic dropcloth. That way they could paint to their
hearts content and I could relax. Of course, sometimes they needed
a bath afterwords. I know you've heard this many times, but your
kids are little for so long. They NEED to make messes. Sometimes we
also used to paint at the kitchen table or counter. Of course they
got paint all over the table. Fingerpainting on the table with
shaving cream cleans it right up.

Diane in KS

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I'm on the fence with the math drills, but here is my concern:
Paint, messy paint, -takes longer to set up and clean up than for them to
paint- Paint!
If my kids were in school they would get to paint. I've bought paint and
I dread every time they ask to do it. (Guess I'm a neatnik) But I do
get it out and let them do it. And then there is the question of what to
do with all of those "masterpieces"
Any ideas? What do others do for art?
Mary Ellen
Snowflakes are on of nature's most fragile things,
but just look at what they can do
when they stick together.

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Linda Wyatt

> If my kids were in school they would get to paint.

Once in a while, maybe. For a few minutes.


> I've bought paint and
> I dread every time they ask to do it. (Guess I'm a neatnik) But I do
> get it out and let them do it. And then there is the question of what to
> do with all of those "masterpieces"
> Any ideas? What do others do for art?

Paint: watercolor (both the dried cakes and liquid), tempera, biocolor
(dries like plastic!), poster, fingerpaints. Ideally, I take everything
off the table, and cover it with newspaper (taped on underneath so it
stays). If I don't have time to do that (often I don't), we either use
paper on one section, or do without and wash up soon after. But I don't
particularly care about stains on the table, so that's an option for us
that might not be an option for others.

Other than paint: we use markers, rubber stamps (lots!), different kinds
of crayons, colored pencils, other pens and pencils, ink pads and
fingerprints (get the washable kind!).

Most of these aren't particularly messy. We also use a variety of sizes of
things to paint on- postcards, small circles (to be made into ornaments).
Keeping things small reduces mess and clutter some.

We also do stuff with paper and scissors (that's messier than paint, I
think), hole punches in various shapes, folding paper (origami and other
stuff), fimo clay, stuff from nature (pine cones, twigs, dried flowers,
whatever is around).

One of my three is very much into art. We bought her a large portfolio to
keep her work in after it dries, and a small rack thing to dry paintings in
(it is really a thing designed to organize paperwork- several page sized
shelves in a wooden thing like a cube, found it at a yard sale) She
decides what to keep. She also has several cheap frames, and she puts some
work in the frames and changes that from time to time. I also have a
laminator, and occasionally, will laminate a very special piece. We have
also made color copies of special pieces, and laminated those to send to
relatives.

Linda

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Carolyn Talarr

And then there is the question of what to
>do with all of those "masterpieces"
>Any ideas? What do others do for art?
>Mary Ellen


You've gotten some wonderful ideas re art--I'm filing them away!-- but I
just thought I'd say what we do with Annie's masterpieces. We let her say
where she'd like them put up. We have a lot of them up on the glass of the
windows of our sunroom --no blinds or curtains so it kind of looks like
stained glass windows--and a rotating display on the refrigerator and the
walls of the kitchen. Sometimes she doesn't want to keep them, and that's
fine too.

But we make that her choice. If she wants to decorate our entire house
that's fine too! (with pieces on paper or sculptures, etc. although I'm
seriously toying with painting walls with her--we're gonna have to paint
them back to white when we leave anyway, so why not have some fun?)

I'm not really artistic, but I'm looking forward to the progress of this
particular part of Annie's childhood so much.
Carolyn

Lynda

Went to the Salvation Army and found some old artists folding older
thingies and gave one to each kidlet in which they choose the pieces of
"art" they wish to keep. They fit nicely in the back of a closet and they
have a wire on one wall with clothes pins and they hang their current fav
on that. I date the backs so that in later years they can see what they
did when. Sometimes they go through and toss some oldies out but we have
agreed that they can't toss all the oldies out cause I do the "mom" thing
and like to get "mushy" on them every now and again.

Lynda

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> From: megates@...
> If my kids were in school they would get to paint. I've bought paint and
> I dread every time they ask to do it. (Guess I'm a neatnik) But I do
> get it out and let them do it. And then there is the question of what to
> do with all of those "masterpieces"
> Any ideas? What do others do for art?
> Mary Ellen
> Snowflakes are on of nature's most fragile things,
> but just look at what they can do
> when they stick together.
>
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In a message dated 11/19/99 1:32:14 PM Eastern Standard Time,
megates@... writes:

<< Any ideas? What do others do for art? >>

I am an art person. I love to do all the messy stuff but I do understand.
Paper Mache is another one that takes longer to set up and clean up than to
do. I keep all our art stuff together. I have taken photos of the kids in
action and of the finished work with them holding it. Then we can put it in a
scrapbook. (another art class LOL) This works great for pieces too big and
bulky to save. Then you have to set it aside until they can part with it.
I also bought a nice size portfolio folder at Jo-Ann etc. (fabric and
craft store) to keep their flat art work in. My kids take an art class every
other week so I like to keep as much of what they do as I can.
Put on old oversize shirts backwards to paint in. If you get them in the
habit of doing things in an organized manner that will help some. We only do
one creative thing at a time. Spread out lots of newspaper. I use foam plates
or washed meat trays to put paint on. then toss it out. I give them each
their own jar of water and paper towels to blot the brush on. For the longest
time my youngest painted everything black.Ugh! My kids love colored pencils
also. You can also buy water color pencils. They color with the pencil then
use a wet brush and it turns to paint.

Laura

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Here is a smock recipe!?!?!
Take a large shirt, cut it down the back, so that it is open, for the little
one to put it on like the surgeons.
Take a thin strap of material (I cut up the back again, to make the strip,
and then cut the strip in half) sew to each side.
Allow child to color on the front of his/her smock for personalization...
Paint away!

Blessings,
Stephanie
Teacher and Mommy of 4 homeschooling fanatics, wife to the best principal,
protector of many pets and wild ones, and unpublished writer.
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We also have a gallery and once a year we sponsor the Kids' Awesome Art Show,
which gives yound artists who explore their talents in a home education
environment the opportunity to show their work. The show is self -juried --
kids out in what they feel the best about(they aren't going to say"this is
crummy--I'll put it in an art show")
Everyone gets a certificate of participation. We have an artists' reception,
send out press releases--the whole shabang. Next year( our 6th) we will be
having a kids' committee for the 1st time--they will learn to write the press
releases, hang the show, coordinate the reception etc. We're excited to share
the process!!
Debra

A. Yates

What a wonderful idea! I'm going to save this idea in my file.
Ann

Buresmom@... wrote:

> From: Buresmom@...
>
> We also have a gallery and once a year we sponsor the Kids' Awesome Art Show,
> which gives yound artists who explore their talents in a home education
> environment the opportunity to show their work. The show is self -juried --
> kids out in what they feel the best about(they aren't going to say"this is
> crummy--I'll put it in an art show")
> Everyone gets a certificate of participation. We have an artists' reception,
> send out press releases--the whole shabang. Next year( our 6th) we will be
> having a kids' committee for the 1st time--they will learn to write the press
> releases, hang the show, coordinate the reception etc. We're excited to share
> the process!!
> Debra
>
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Amy Aybar

...coming out of lurksville...

The list of things I got from Linda for art is great!!! Got my Christmas
buying juices going. Now I have a question. What is the difference between
clay and playdoh? I'm beginning to hate the mess from playdoh, is clay a
better alternative? Does it hold up over many uses?

Thanks.

Amy
Mom to Carlos (6) and Sasha (4)

Linda Wyatt

> From: "Amy Aybar" <funschoolmom@...>

> The list of things I got from Linda for art is great!!! Got my Christmas
> buying juices going. Now I have a question. What is the difference between
> clay and playdoh? I'm beginning to hate the mess from playdoh, is clay a
> better alternative? Does it hold up over many uses?

Fimo clay (or sculpey) doesn't dry until/unless you bake it. It has a
nicer texture (I think) to work with, too. Makes great beads (don't forget
the hole!).

play doh is fun, too, but is much more crumbly- that's what makes it more
of a mess.


Linda

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Linda Wyatt

> From: "Amy Aybar" <funschoolmom@...>

> The list of things I got from Linda for art is great!!! Got my Christmas
> buying juices going. Now I have a question. What is the difference between
> clay and playdoh? I'm beginning to hate the mess from playdoh, is clay a
> better alternative? Does it hold up over many uses?

Fimo clay (or sculpey) doesn't dry until/unless you bake it. It has a
nicer texture (I think) to work with, too. Makes great beads (don't forget
the hole!).

play doh is fun, too, but is much more crumbly- that's what makes it more
of a mess.


Linda

--
Linda Wyatt
hilinda@...
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Learning everywhere, all the time.
Algebra before breakfast
"A lie, you see, no matter how often or how vociferously repeated, may be
mistaken for the truth, but it does not become the truth." - Adam Crown

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Love the art topic--and all the great ideas

My daughter is 8 now,,,,,when we used to do a mommy & me 'preschool' class
sometimes us moms would start doing our own things,,,fingerpainting,
clay-molding, etc,,,and were still going even when the kids got tired of
it-----it's one of the great things about being a parent-you get to be a kid
again. A lot of the time when my daughter wants to get somethng out,,i'll
get on a little creative binge myself----and when i started painting oils
again,,,,i let her start on her own canvas. I love the freedom of just
doing, without any outcome,,,and try to instill that more than anything,,just
to have fun,,,let it go where it wants to go,,,not as trying to do it
perfectly.
We also hang some of the finished products around the house. I remember when
i was young a few things would make it to the refrigerator, but that was it.
I see how much it means to her, to have things she has created hung
respectfully on the walls along with 'real' art. Hers are just as real.

Love this network,,,,,take care,,,jennifer

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In a message dated 11/19/1999 10:16:15 PM Eastern Standard Time,
hilinda@... writes:

<< What is the difference between
> clay and playdoh? >>

There are different kinds of clays---Fimo, Sculpey, air dry clays, are
polymer clays--they are made chemically. Natural clays such as porcelain,
stoneware, earthenware, terra cotta etc. come from the earth and must be
fired. Polymer clays can either be air dried or oven fired. Play-doh can be
made from various recipes(four salt and water is one).
Debra

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Thanks everyone for the suggestions!
Lynda, My mil saved a plaster handprint and a painting by my dh that are
both now hanging on the wall of kid's room. I also have a puppet he made
one year that is on my to do list to frame. You can't save it all, but
it is nice to have a few of those precious things to pass on!
Mary Ellen
Snowflakes are on of nature's most fragile things,
but just look at what they can do
when they stick together.

>>> I date the backs so that in later years they can see what they did
when. Sometimes they go through and toss some oldies out but we have
agreed that they can't toss all the oldies out cause I do the "mom" thing
and like to get "mushy" on them every now and again.
Lynda>>>

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