Mary Bianco

Could someone please tell me what anime is and what goes on with it all? All
the sites I have found seem to be for people who already know what the heck
it is. I'm totally lost but keep hearing about.

Thanks.

Mary B



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I'm no expert by any means, but to my knowledge anime is japanese style
animation. Much (but certainly not all) of it is dark and sexualized.
Princess Mononoke is an example of the non-dark variety; we enjoyed it,
although it was a bit too heavy for my then 9 yo.

sally

On Sunday, October 6, 2002, at 11:08 PM, Mary Bianco wrote:

> Could someone please tell me what anime is and what goes on with it
> all? All
> the sites I have found seem to be for people who already know what the
> heck
> it is. I'm totally lost but keep hearing about.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Mary B
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Try this link, looks like a good place to pick up the basics. :-)
http://web.singnet.com.sg/~liviafyk/
sally

On Sunday, October 6, 2002, at 11:08 PM, Mary Bianco wrote:

> Could someone please tell me what anime is and what goes on with it
> all? All
> the sites I have found seem to be for people who already know what the
> heck
> it is. I'm totally lost but keep hearing about.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Mary B
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on 10/7/02 1:08 AM, Mary Bianco at mummyone24@... wrote:

> Could someone please tell me what anime is and what goes on with it all? All
> the sites I have found seem to be for people who already know what the heck
> it is. I'm totally lost but keep hearing about.

I stumbled on this site last time someone asked about it:

The Right Stuf - Introduction to Anime
http://www.rightstuf.com/introduction/

I think, as someone suggested, that the anime that is most readily available
on video in the US tends to be dark, violent and sexual because the audience
most into anime in the US is the young adult male audience and they have
more disposable income to spend on it. And dubbing them is expensive. (Most
people who appreciate anime want subtitles, but the manufacturers can sell
more if they're dubbed.) In Japan, anime is marketed to all sorts of
audiences, as wide a range as movies in general.

On TV, the big audience is kids: Pokemon, Dragonball Z, Digimon, Yu-gi-oh,
Gundam, Hello Kitty, Hamtaro. Cartoon Network has a block of it 4-6 (or so)
every weekday afternoon and some more adult stuff Saturday around midnight.

That lack of variety seems to be changing with DVD's which, though they
often are priced higher, maybe are cheaper to get into production, ship
(they're lighter), display (they're smaller) so companies can make a profit
off a title that won't sell a huge number of disks.

And some of the dark, violent, sexual ones are very good -- for adults of
course! -- even for people who don't normally watch dark, violent, sexual
stuff like me ;-) Akira comes to mind. They have a depth to them that leaves
you feeling like your brain has had a work out.

I'll repost what I wrote last time since I really should be working in my
conference talk ;-)

> Could you
> ask him what the appeal is?

Whereas with the cartoons we watched as kids the first episode wasn't much
different than an episode 3 season later in terms of character or setting
(if it was, it generally indicated the cartoon wasn't doing so well and they
were trying to fix it and make it better ;-) the anime stories tend to be
multilayered. The division between good and bad can be less distinct than in
western cartoons (and western movies for that matter.) Anime stories tend to
be on going with the characters changing and developing over the course of
the series so it gives more of a feeling of tension that anything could
happen. And that you'll miss something if you don't keep watching. ;-) (In
fact sometimes they'll start all over again with a different story line like
they did in Tenchi.) Basically they treat the viewer as intelligent. For
some reason kids like that! :-)

Anime developed out of -- and are still often translations of -- Japanese
comics (manga) which is a *huge* industry in Japan. And *not* just for kids.

Neither is anime just for kids. Some (perhaps a lot since the market for it
in the US tends to be teen and 20's males) is very definitely not for kids.
In Japan there isn't the western prejudice against sci-fi and animation and
they can use both to tell a story without the fear that they're limiting
their audience.

> Why the big eyes on the
> character ;)?

They are windows to the soul :-) The most innocent characters have the
biggest eyes with the most light spots. Westerners tend to think they are
western eyes, but westerners don't have baseball sized eyes any more than
the Japanese do. ;-) The eyes just indicate something about the character.
Sort of like black hair in western movies indicating a bad person and blond
hair a good person. The eyes are just more so. It's probably a holdover from
the comic books where they can often tell a lot of the story without words.

The hair, too, is a holdover from manga with imaginative hairstyles and
unnatural colors. It helps people identify characters quickly. The covers
are colored but the inside pages of most books are black and white so having
distinctive hair was a big help in keeping the characters straight.

> How does it compare to "American"
> cartoons?

If she hasn't seen My Neighbor Totoro or Kiki's Delivery Service, go out and
rent them right now. They're a full course meal and make Disney look like
Fizzies. (Of course Miyazaki is the best of the best and his lastest
picture (Spirited Away I think is the English title) is the highest grossing
film of all time in Japan.)

Joyce

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In a message dated 10/7/02 2:34:54 AM Central Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:

<< Could someone please tell me what anime is and what goes on with it all? >>

It's Japanese animations.
There are poplular, not-so-great ones like Dragon Ball Z, or some really
great ones like Cowboy BeBop, Outlaw star or Inu Yasha (although the first
two maybe not good for very young children).
I have a website saved somewhere that rates different anime, from movies to
tv shows and lets you know how good they are.
I have agreed with it so far, they pay attention to not only the plot/story
line but the quality of animation.
A couple of really great movies that my kids LOVED (and good for all ages)
are "My neighbor Totoro" and "KiKi's Delivery Service".

Ren

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In a message dated 10/6/02 11:08:51 PM, mummyone24@... writes:

<< Could someone please tell me what anime is and what goes on with it all?
All
the sites I have found seem to be for people who already know what the heck
it is. I'm totally lost but keep hearing about. >>

I think (could be wrong) that "anime" is French for animated films. And it
would get an accent on the last e.

And then there was "Japanimation" as a term for a while. And then I guess
American animation fell quite by the wayside, and the Japanese stuff was
"Japanese animation," and it picked up the name "anime" mostly all by itself.

That might end up in urban legends as bad information, but it has a hint,
kernal or perhaps a good-sized lump of truth.

Sandra

Kelli Traaseth

Yes! In regards to KiKi's Delivery Service, my kids love it! And so do I, another one that looked good was Castle in the Sky, has anyone seen it? I'm searching for that at the video store!
Kelli
Fetteroll wrote:on 10/7/02 1:08 AM, Mary Bianco at mummyone24@... wrote:

> Could someone please tell me what anime is and what goes on with it all? All
> the sites I have found seem to be for people who already know what the heck
> it is. I'm totally lost but keep hearing about.

I stumbled on this site last time someone asked about it:

The Right Stuf - Introduction to Anime
http://www.rightstuf.com/introduction/

I think, as someone suggested, that the anime that is most readily available
on video in the US tends to be dark, violent and sexual because the audience
most into anime in the US is the young adult male audience and they have
more disposable income to spend on it. And dubbing them is expensive. (Most
people who appreciate anime want subtitles, but the manufacturers can sell
more if they're dubbed.) In Japan, anime is marketed to all sorts of
audiences, as wide a range as movies in general.

On TV, the big audience is kids: Pokemon, Dragonball Z, Digimon, Yu-gi-oh,
Gundam, Hello Kitty, Hamtaro. Cartoon Network has a block of it 4-6 (or so)
every weekday afternoon and some more adult stuff Saturday around midnight.

That lack of variety seems to be changing with DVD's which, though they
often are priced higher, maybe are cheaper to get into production, ship
(they're lighter), display (they're smaller) so companies can make a profit
off a title that won't sell a huge number of disks.

And some of the dark, violent, sexual ones are very good -- for adults of
course! -- even for people who don't normally watch dark, violent, sexual
stuff like me ;-) Akira comes to mind. They have a depth to them that leaves
you feeling like your brain has had a work out.

I'll repost what I wrote last time since I really should be working in my
conference talk ;-)

> Could you
> ask him what the appeal is?

Whereas with the cartoons we watched as kids the first episode wasn't much
different than an episode 3 season later in terms of character or setting
(if it was, it generally indicated the cartoon wasn't doing so well and they
were trying to fix it and make it better ;-) the anime stories tend to be
multilayered. The division between good and bad can be less distinct than in
western cartoons (and western movies for that matter.) Anime stories tend to
be on going with the characters changing and developing over the course of
the series so it gives more of a feeling of tension that anything could
happen. And that you'll miss something if you don't keep watching. ;-) (In
fact sometimes they'll start all over again with a different story line like
they did in Tenchi.) Basically they treat the viewer as intelligent. For
some reason kids like that! :-)

Anime developed out of -- and are still often translations of -- Japanese
comics (manga) which is a *huge* industry in Japan. And *not* just for kids.

Neither is anime just for kids. Some (perhaps a lot since the market for it
in the US tends to be teen and 20's males) is very definitely not for kids.
In Japan there isn't the western prejudice against sci-fi and animation and
they can use both to tell a story without the fear that they're limiting
their audience.

> Why the big eyes on the
> character ;)?

They are windows to the soul :-) The most innocent characters have the
biggest eyes with the most light spots. Westerners tend to think they are
western eyes, but westerners don't have baseball sized eyes any more than
the Japanese do. ;-) The eyes just indicate something about the character.
Sort of like black hair in western movies indicating a bad person and blond
hair a good person. The eyes are just more so. It's probably a holdover from
the comic books where they can often tell a lot of the story without words.

The hair, too, is a holdover from manga with imaginative hairstyles and
unnatural colors. It helps people identify characters quickly. The covers
are colored but the inside pages of most books are black and white so having
distinctive hair was a big help in keeping the characters straight.

> How does it compare to "American"
> cartoons?

If she hasn't seen My Neighbor Totoro or Kiki's Delivery Service, go out and
rent them right now. They're a full course meal and make Disney look like
Fizzies. (Of course Miyazaki is the best of the best and his lastest
picture (Spirited Away I think is the English title) is the highest grossing
film of all time in Japan.)

Joyce


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In a message dated 10/7/02 4:51:31 PM, kellitraas@... writes:

<< That lack of variety seems to be changing with DVD's which, though they
often are priced higher, maybe are cheaper to get into production, ship
(they're lighter), display (they're smaller) so companies can make a profit
off a title that won't sell a huge number of disks. >>

Also the DVD's give you the option of subtitles or dubbing, whereas the
videos tried to do both (but separately). There are series of Japanese
cartoons which were/are on TV over there. Kind of like fantasy soap operas.
Those aren't adult content. Time travel, adventure, heroics, teamwork,
mysteries...

Sandra

Mary Bianco

>From: Kelli Traaseth <kellitraas@...>

>Yes! In regards to KiKi's Delivery Service, my kids love it! And so do I,
>another one that looked good was Castle in the Sky, has anyone seen it?
>I'm searching for that at the video store!



Wow, I remember my kids watching Kiki's Delivery Service ages ago. Who would
have thunk I already knew about anime??!!! I remember they liked it but it
was so long ago, neither one remembers it. I'll have to get it again for
them......or me?

Mary B

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on 10/7/02 6:49 PM, Kelli Traaseth at kellitraas@... wrote:

> another one that looked good was Castle in the Sky, has anyone seen it? I'm
> searching for that at the video store!

Disney bought the rights to dub and distribute Miyazaki's films and they're
just sitting on them. I suspect Disney thinks they might be huge money
makers -- they are in Japan -- but they don't want to squander the
opportunity.

They *did* finally release Totoro on DVD. (Due in December maybe?) I even
said that in July that Disney would do that to me as I finally broke down
and bought a VHS copy after waiting for the DVD ;-)

There's an excellent site that has loads of well researched information
about his movies at http://WWW.Nausicaa.net/miyazaki/ There are even scripts
from some of them.

And there's a new (to the US) film in theaters now, Spirited Away. (It's PG)
There's a theater list at the Nausicaa site.

Joyce

Kelli Traaseth

Not a big deal, but I didn't write that, I don't know that much about DVDs.
I think the messages must get mixed up sometimes.
Kelli
SandraDodd@... wrote:
In a message dated 10/7/02 4:51:31 PM, kellitraas@... writes:

<< That lack of variety seems to be changing with DVD's which, though they
often are priced higher, maybe are cheaper to get into production, ship
(they're lighter), display (they're smaller) so companies can make a profit
off a title that won't sell a huge number of disks. >>

Also the DVD's give you the option of subtitles or dubbing, whereas the
videos tried to do both (but separately). There are series of Japanese
cartoons which were/are on TV over there. Kind of like fantasy soap operas.
Those aren't adult content. Time travel, adventure, heroics, teamwork,
mysteries...

Sandra

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