pertinent to anger/discipline
Judy
Mothering Mag this week:
Hello everyone! Here's what's new this week at Mothering.com&
Featured Articles:
Sometimes, gentle and firm disciplining of your child can seem impossible. But listening to your heart and the experience of parents you admire can help you provide the loving guidance that makes all the difference in the world.
Compassionate Connection: Nonviolent Communication with Children
When our baby was a week old, his grandfather expressed concern that my partner and I were holding him too much. Since then, Grandpa has worried about cosleeping and extended nursing, and we have continued to talk together about the differences in our parenting philosophies. At one point Grandpa tried to harmonize our obviously different approaches: "Surely we all want the same thing," he said. "We want our children to grow up to become independent."
Read the entire article at:
http://www.mothering.com/15-0-0/html/15-2-0/compassion.shtml
Parental Anger: Mindfulness and Letting Go
As a facilitator of parenting workshops, I work with parents on understanding their emotional reactions to their children. Without question, the issue that is raised more than any other is parental anger. One day, listening to a woman talk about how angry she gets with her children, a light bulb clicked on in my head: I realized that the best way to understand the anger in our society is to understand the anger inside of us. The best way to teach our children is to be role models, by looking at and understanding our own anger.
Read the entire article at:
http://www.mothering.com/15-0-0/html/15-2-0/anger.shtml
_________________________________________________________
Love, Judy
--
"It is better to create than to be learned, creating is the true essence of life."
-- Barthold Georg Niebuhr
Hello everyone! Here's what's new this week at Mothering.com&
Featured Articles:
Sometimes, gentle and firm disciplining of your child can seem impossible. But listening to your heart and the experience of parents you admire can help you provide the loving guidance that makes all the difference in the world.
Compassionate Connection: Nonviolent Communication with Children
When our baby was a week old, his grandfather expressed concern that my partner and I were holding him too much. Since then, Grandpa has worried about cosleeping and extended nursing, and we have continued to talk together about the differences in our parenting philosophies. At one point Grandpa tried to harmonize our obviously different approaches: "Surely we all want the same thing," he said. "We want our children to grow up to become independent."
Read the entire article at:
http://www.mothering.com/15-0-0/html/15-2-0/compassion.shtml
Parental Anger: Mindfulness and Letting Go
As a facilitator of parenting workshops, I work with parents on understanding their emotional reactions to their children. Without question, the issue that is raised more than any other is parental anger. One day, listening to a woman talk about how angry she gets with her children, a light bulb clicked on in my head: I realized that the best way to understand the anger in our society is to understand the anger inside of us. The best way to teach our children is to be role models, by looking at and understanding our own anger.
Read the entire article at:
http://www.mothering.com/15-0-0/html/15-2-0/anger.shtml
_________________________________________________________
Love, Judy
--
"It is better to create than to be learned, creating is the true essence of life."
-- Barthold Georg Niebuhr
Kelli Traaseth
Wow Judy, I have never read Mothering Mag, there are a lot of powerful articles just in that issue. Can you tell me more about the magazine itself what kind-of background does it have? I have to send this article to many of my friends, have lots of friends dealing with little boys who are having really hard times dealing with anger.
Thanks,
Kelli
Judy wrote:Mothering Mag this week:
Hello everyone! Here's what's new this week at Mothering.com&
Featured Articles:
Sometimes, gentle and firm disciplining of your child can seem impossible. But listening to your heart and the experience of parents you admire can help you provide the loving guidance that makes all the difference in the world.
Compassionate Connection: Nonviolent Communication with Children
When our baby was a week old, his grandfather expressed concern that my partner and I were holding him too much. Since then, Grandpa has worried about cosleeping and extended nursing, and we have continued to talk together about the differences in our parenting philosophies. At one point Grandpa tried to harmonize our obviously different approaches: "Surely we all want the same thing," he said. "We want our children to grow up to become independent."
Read the entire article at:
http://www.mothering.com/15-0-0/html/15-2-0/compassion.shtml
Parental Anger: Mindfulness and Letting Go
As a facilitator of parenting workshops, I work with parents on understanding their emotional reactions to their children. Without question, the issue that is raised more than any other is parental anger. One day, listening to a woman talk about how angry she gets with her children, a light bulb clicked on in my head: I realized that the best way to understand the anger in our society is to understand the anger inside of us. The best way to teach our children is to be role models, by looking at and understanding our own anger.
Read the entire article at:
http://www.mothering.com/15-0-0/html/15-2-0/anger.shtml
_________________________________________________________
Love, Judy
--
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-- Barthold Georg Niebuhr
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Kelli
Judy wrote:Mothering Mag this week:
Hello everyone! Here's what's new this week at Mothering.com&
Featured Articles:
Sometimes, gentle and firm disciplining of your child can seem impossible. But listening to your heart and the experience of parents you admire can help you provide the loving guidance that makes all the difference in the world.
Compassionate Connection: Nonviolent Communication with Children
When our baby was a week old, his grandfather expressed concern that my partner and I were holding him too much. Since then, Grandpa has worried about cosleeping and extended nursing, and we have continued to talk together about the differences in our parenting philosophies. At one point Grandpa tried to harmonize our obviously different approaches: "Surely we all want the same thing," he said. "We want our children to grow up to become independent."
Read the entire article at:
http://www.mothering.com/15-0-0/html/15-2-0/compassion.shtml
Parental Anger: Mindfulness and Letting Go
As a facilitator of parenting workshops, I work with parents on understanding their emotional reactions to their children. Without question, the issue that is raised more than any other is parental anger. One day, listening to a woman talk about how angry she gets with her children, a light bulb clicked on in my head: I realized that the best way to understand the anger in our society is to understand the anger inside of us. The best way to teach our children is to be role models, by looking at and understanding our own anger.
Read the entire article at:
http://www.mothering.com/15-0-0/html/15-2-0/anger.shtml
_________________________________________________________
Love, Judy
--
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In a message dated 10/3/02 6:06:17 AM, kellitraas@... writes:
<< Can you tell me more about the magazine itself what kind-of background
does it have? >>
Santa Fe counter culture
but it's international and well respected
<< Can you tell me more about the magazine itself what kind-of background
does it have? >>
Santa Fe counter culture
but it's international and well respected
Liza Sabater
>In a message dated 10/3/02 6:06:17 AM, kellitraas@... writes:????????????????????????????????????????????????????
>
><< Can you tell me more about the magazine itself what kind-of background
>does it have? >>
>
>Santa Fe counter culture
>but it's international and well respected
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Judy
oh, what you have been missing!
It is a fabulous, fabulous publication. Peggy O'Mara is a woman who has
facilitated many paradigm shifts for our children. and a great speaker!
if you ever have the chance to see her- DO!
and shoot- I just gave years and years and years worth of back issues
away ( to my local OB Clinic- 'strewing' on a community level ;-)
(Am I the oldest parent here?- I have an almost 27 yo...)
*DO* get yourself a subscription, Kelli.
I have a feeling you might like this one, too
http://www.compleatmother.com/
Sadly, Catherine Young past away last year ( on Sept 11th- I like to
think that she was needed to be a 'Compleat Mother' to all the people
who were murdered that day...) but her magazine goes on as wonderful as
ever.
Love, Judy
Kelli Traaseth wrote:
It is a fabulous, fabulous publication. Peggy O'Mara is a woman who has
facilitated many paradigm shifts for our children. and a great speaker!
if you ever have the chance to see her- DO!
and shoot- I just gave years and years and years worth of back issues
away ( to my local OB Clinic- 'strewing' on a community level ;-)
(Am I the oldest parent here?- I have an almost 27 yo...)
*DO* get yourself a subscription, Kelli.
I have a feeling you might like this one, too
http://www.compleatmother.com/
Sadly, Catherine Young past away last year ( on Sept 11th- I like to
think that she was needed to be a 'Compleat Mother' to all the people
who were murdered that day...) but her magazine goes on as wonderful as
ever.
Love, Judy
Kelli Traaseth wrote:
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> Wow Judy, I have never read Mothering Mag, there are a lot of
> powerful articles just in that issue. Can you tell me more about the
> magazine itself what kind-of background does it have? I have to send
> this article to many of my friends, have lots of friends dealing with
> little boys who are having really hard times dealing with anger.
> Thanks,
> Kelli
> Judy wrote:Mothering Mag this week:
>
>
> Hello everyone! Here's what's new this week at Mothering.com&
>
>
>
>
>
> Featured Articles:
>
> Sometimes, gentle and firm disciplining of your child can seem
> impossible. But listening to your heart and the experience of parents
> you admire can help you provide the loving guidance that makes all the
> difference in the world.
>
>
>
> Compassionate Connection: Nonviolent Communication with Children
>
> When our baby was a week old, his grandfather expressed concern that
> my partner and I were holding him too much. Since then, Grandpa has
> worried about cosleeping and extended nursing, and we have continued
> to talk together about the differences in our parenting philosophies.
> At one point Grandpa tried to harmonize our obviously different
> approaches: "Surely we all want the same thing," he said. "We want our
> children to grow up to become independent."
>
>
>
> Read the entire article at:
>
> http://www.mothering.com/15-0-0/html/15-2-0/compassion.shtml
>
>
>
> Parental Anger: Mindfulness and Letting Go
>
> As a facilitator of parenting workshops, I work with parents on
> understanding their emotional reactions to their children. Without
> question, the issue that is raised more than any other is parental
> anger. One day, listening to a woman talk about how angry she gets
> with her children, a light bulb clicked on in my head: I realized that
> the best way to understand the anger in our society is to understand
> the anger inside of us. The best way to teach our children is to be
> role models, by looking at and understanding our own anger.
>
>
>
> Read the entire article at:
>
> http://www.mothering.com/15-0-0/html/15-2-0/anger.shtml
>
> _________________________________________________________
>
> Love, Judy
>
> --
> "It is better to create than to be learned, creating is the true
> essence of life."
> -- Barthold Georg Niebuhr
>
>
>
>
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In a message dated 10/3/02 9:18:53 AM Central Daylight Time,
jorganic@... writes:
~Nancy
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jorganic@... writes:
> and shoot- I just gave years and years and years worth of back issuesLOL And I was just thinking that I might be the youngest parent here! <g>
> away ( to my local OB Clinic- 'strewing' on a community level ;-)
> (Am I the oldest parent here?- I have an almost 27 yo...)
>
~Nancy
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Kelli Traaseth
Oh, why couldn't I have had a mother like you? I do love my mother and everything but I just wonder what I would be like now if I would have had one that accepted me for me.
Unfortunately, she is older than you and didn't know these things.
Also, I wish I would have found a Le Leche group, because I was unable to nurse any of mine and I still have dreams of doing that, sad huh? Oh well, I can still be a good parent now!
Do you think I would still like Mothering, even tho' I'm past the birthing part of my life?
It has alot of parenting things also, right?
Thanks, Kelli
Judy wrote:oh, what you have been missing!
It is a fabulous, fabulous publication. Peggy O'Mara is a woman who has
facilitated many paradigm shifts for our children. and a great speaker!
if you ever have the chance to see her- DO!
and shoot- I just gave years and years and years worth of back issues
away ( to my local OB Clinic- 'strewing' on a community level ;-)
(Am I the oldest parent here?- I have an almost 27 yo...)
*DO* get yourself a subscription, Kelli.
I have a feeling you might like this one, too
http://www.compleatmother.com/
Sadly, Catherine Young past away last year ( on Sept 11th- I like to
think that she was needed to be a 'Compleat Mother' to all the people
who were murdered that day...) but her magazine goes on as wonderful as
ever.
Love, Judy
Kelli Traaseth wrote:
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Unfortunately, she is older than you and didn't know these things.
Also, I wish I would have found a Le Leche group, because I was unable to nurse any of mine and I still have dreams of doing that, sad huh? Oh well, I can still be a good parent now!
Do you think I would still like Mothering, even tho' I'm past the birthing part of my life?
It has alot of parenting things also, right?
Thanks, Kelli
Judy wrote:oh, what you have been missing!
It is a fabulous, fabulous publication. Peggy O'Mara is a woman who has
facilitated many paradigm shifts for our children. and a great speaker!
if you ever have the chance to see her- DO!
and shoot- I just gave years and years and years worth of back issues
away ( to my local OB Clinic- 'strewing' on a community level ;-)
(Am I the oldest parent here?- I have an almost 27 yo...)
*DO* get yourself a subscription, Kelli.
I have a feeling you might like this one, too
http://www.compleatmother.com/
Sadly, Catherine Young past away last year ( on Sept 11th- I like to
think that she was needed to be a 'Compleat Mother' to all the people
who were murdered that day...) but her magazine goes on as wonderful as
ever.
Love, Judy
Kelli Traaseth wrote:
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> Wow Judy, I have never read Mothering Mag, there are a lot of
> powerful articles just in that issue. Can you tell me more about the
> magazine itself what kind-of background does it have? I have to send
> this article to many of my friends, have lots of friends dealing with
> little boys who are having really hard times dealing with anger.
> Thanks,
> Kelli
> Judy wrote:Mothering Mag this week:
>
>
> Hello everyone! Here's what's new this week at Mothering.com&
>
>
>
>
>
> Featured Articles:
>
> Sometimes, gentle and firm disciplining of your child can seem
> impossible. But listening to your heart and the experience of parents
> you admire can help you provide the loving guidance that makes all the
> difference in the world.
>
>
>
> Compassionate Connection: Nonviolent Communication with Children
>
> When our baby was a week old, his grandfather expressed concern that
> my partner and I were holding him too much. Since then, Grandpa has
> worried about cosleeping and extended nursing, and we have continued
> to talk together about the differences in our parenting philosophies.
> At one point Grandpa tried to harmonize our obviously different
> approaches: "Surely we all want the same thing," he said. "We want our
> children to grow up to become independent."
>
>
>
> Read the entire article at:
>
> http://www.mothering.com/15-0-0/html/15-2-0/compassion.shtml
>
>
>
> Parental Anger: Mindfulness and Letting Go
>
> As a facilitator of parenting workshops, I work with parents on
> understanding their emotional reactions to their children. Without
> question, the issue that is raised more than any other is parental
> anger. One day, listening to a woman talk about how angry she gets
> with her children, a light bulb clicked on in my head: I realized that
> the best way to understand the anger in our society is to understand
> the anger inside of us. The best way to teach our children is to be
> role models, by looking at and understanding our own anger.
>
>
>
> Read the entire article at:
>
> http://www.mothering.com/15-0-0/html/15-2-0/anger.shtml
>
> _________________________________________________________
>
> Love, Judy
>
> --
> "It is better to create than to be learned, creating is the true
> essence of life."
> -- Barthold Georg Niebuhr
>
>
>
>
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Nancy, Are you older than me? I figured everyone is in the mid thirties! I'm serious!!
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Dnowens@... wrote:In a message dated 10/3/02 9:18:53 AM Central Daylight Time,
jorganic@... writes:
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Dnowens@... wrote:In a message dated 10/3/02 9:18:53 AM Central Daylight Time,
jorganic@... writes:
> and shoot- I just gave years and years and years worth of back issuesLOL And I was just thinking that I might be the youngest parent here! <g>
> away ( to my local OB Clinic- 'strewing' on a community level ;-)
> (Am I the oldest parent here?- I have an almost 27 yo...)
>
~Nancy
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Kelli Traaseth wrote:
that was then, this is now...
do your best for *your* kids.
almost all breastfeeding 'failures' are simply mismanagement by the
'professionals'... too much separation in the hospital, introduction of
pacifiers, bottles too early....
if you know a woman who is expecting a baby, help her get the
information she needs. attending LL Meetings is a must do while pregnant
and the LLLI website is VERY helpful:
http://lalecheleague.org/
Love, Judy
>My Mom and I have VASTLY different parenting styles, too.
> Oh, why couldn't I have had a mother like you? I do love my mother
> and everything but I just wonder what I would be like now if I would
> have had one that accepted me for me.
that was then, this is now...
do your best for *your* kids.
>Oh, I'm sorry.
> Unfortunately, she is older than you and didn't know these things.
> Also, I wish I would have found a Le Leche group, because I was unable
> to nurse any of mine and I still have dreams of doing that, sad huh?
> Oh well, I can still be a good parent now!
almost all breastfeeding 'failures' are simply mismanagement by the
'professionals'... too much separation in the hospital, introduction of
pacifiers, bottles too early....
if you know a woman who is expecting a baby, help her get the
information she needs. attending LL Meetings is a must do while pregnant
and the LLLI website is VERY helpful:
http://lalecheleague.org/
>Absolutely- my youngest is nine and I still gain so much from each issue.
> Do you think I would still like Mothering, even tho' I'm past the
> birthing part of my life?
> It has alot of parenting things also, right?
> Thanks, Kelli
Love, Judy
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> Judy wrote:oh, what you have been missing!
> It is a fabulous, fabulous publication. Peggy O'Mara is a woman who has
> facilitated many paradigm shifts for our children. and a great speaker!
> if you ever have the chance to see her- DO!
>
> and shoot- I just gave years and years and years worth of back issues
> away ( to my local OB Clinic- 'strewing' on a community level ;-)
> (Am I the oldest parent here?- I have an almost 27 yo...)
>
> *DO* get yourself a subscription, Kelli.
>
> I have a feeling you might like this one, too
>
> http://www.compleatmother.com/
>
> Sadly, Catherine Young past away last year ( on Sept 11th- I like to
> think that she was needed to be a 'Compleat Mother' to all the people
> who were murdered that day...) but her magazine goes on as wonderful as
> ever.
>
> Love, Judy
>
>
> Kelli Traaseth wrote:
>
> >
> > Wow Judy, I have never read Mothering Mag, there are a lot of
> > powerful articles just in that issue. Can you tell me more about the
> > magazine itself what kind-of background does it have? I have to send
> > this article to many of my friends, have lots of friends dealing with
> > little boys who are having really hard times dealing with anger.
> > Thanks,
> > Kelli
> > Judy wrote:Mothering Mag this week:
> >
> >
> > Hello everyone! Here's what's new this week at Mothering.com&
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Featured Articles:
> >
> > Sometimes, gentle and firm disciplining of your child can seem
> > impossible. But listening to your heart and the experience of parents
> > you admire can help you provide the loving guidance that makes all the
> > difference in the world.
> >
> >
> >
> > Compassionate Connection: Nonviolent Communication with Children
> >
> > When our baby was a week old, his grandfather expressed concern that
> > my partner and I were holding him too much. Since then, Grandpa has
> > worried about cosleeping and extended nursing, and we have continued
> > to talk together about the differences in our parenting philosophies.
> > At one point Grandpa tried to harmonize our obviously different
> > approaches: "Surely we all want the same thing," he said. "We want our
> > children to grow up to become independent."
> >
> >
> >
> > Read the entire article at:
> >
> > http://www.mothering.com/15-0-0/html/15-2-0/compassion.shtml
> >
> >
> >
> > Parental Anger: Mindfulness and Letting Go
> >
> > As a facilitator of parenting workshops, I work with parents on
> > understanding their emotional reactions to their children. Without
> > question, the issue that is raised more than any other is parental
> > anger. One day, listening to a woman talk about how angry she gets
> > with her children, a light bulb clicked on in my head: I realized that
> > the best way to understand the anger in our society is to understand
> > the anger inside of us. The best way to teach our children is to be
> > role models, by looking at and understanding our own anger.
> >
> >
> >
> > Read the entire article at:
> >
> > http://www.mothering.com/15-0-0/html/15-2-0/anger.shtml
> >
> > _________________________________________________________
> >
> > Love, Judy
> >
> > --
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> > essence of life."
> > -- Barthold Georg Niebuhr
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Myranda
Be careful what you say if you go to their meetings! I formula-fed both my boys because I had to work full time. When I had my third baby, I had been staying home for over 4 years, so I wanted to breastfeed her. I went to a meeting.... they asked about how I'd fed the boys, and I told them. The rest of the meeting was spent with them attacking my choices and telling me what a bad mom I was. Absolutely no support for me wanting to breastfeed now, no help or advice, nothing. Just criticism for past choices. I was almost in tears by the time I left.
Myranda
From: Judy
attending LL Meetings is a must do while pregnant
and the LLLI website is VERY helpful:
http://lalecheleague.org/
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Myranda
From: Judy
attending LL Meetings is a must do while pregnant
and the LLLI website is VERY helpful:
http://lalecheleague.org/
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Tia Leschke
> Nancy, Are you older than me? I figured everyone is in the mid thirties!I'm serious!!
I'll be 54 next month. My oldest is 27, and my grandkids are almost 8, 2
today, and 2months. I think Helen might be older than me. My "baby" will
be 15 in a couple of weeks.
Tia
marji
(((((((Myranda)))))))
I'm SO sorry that you had that kind of an experience at a LLL meeting! How
awful that must have felt! Having been a LLL leader, it saddens me to hear
that you did not feel any support at the meeting you attended, a meeting
where the primary purpose is to offer support and encouragement to ALL moms
who wish to breastfeed their babies. I can certainly understand why you
would have been brought to near tears after feeling attacked. I think I
would have felt that way, too! No mom should have to defend her choices to
ANYONE, certainly not people she is going to for HELP!
But, I do want to say that LLL's policy is offer support through
encouragement, not attacking moms choices! I pray and I believe that your
experience is not the typical experience a mom would have who had formerly
bottle-fed and wanted now to breastfeed. We certainly had moms attend our
meetings who had bottle-fed in the past, but LLL accepts all moms and
accepts people where they ARE now (or at least this is the ideal). Each
group is made up of the people who attend, and each leader is a volunteer
mom. Therefore, no two meetings and no two groups are exactly the same,
but I do know that LLL does not encourage its members or leaders to
criticize others' choices in any way. My co-leader said it well. She
asked moms who came to our meetings to think of the meetings as a
supermarket of ideas. Each mom knows her family and her situation best and
should only take the ideas that SHE feels would work in her situation, and
leave the rest, just as we don't buy everything in a supermarket. The
point is that LLL acknowledges that each mom is THE expert on her family.
It breaks my heart to think that you came away from La Leche League with
such a bad (but understandable) impression of the organization. Many
people have come to our meetings warily because they had heard that LLL was
nothing but a bunch of breastfeeding maniacs, and they were pleasantly
surprised and went on to become members and held group jobs and one person
I can think of became a leader applicant.
Warmly,
Marji
P.S. By the way, we have had moms who come to our LLL meetings or call me
on the phone because they want to wean from the breast and start
bottles. And, if this is the kind of support they need, this is the kind
of support a LLL leader would give. Having said that, sometimes a mom will
ask for that kind of information but on further questioning from the LLL
leader, there is, in fact, a different issue that needs to be resolved and
then the breastfeeding relationship can continue, IF that's what the mom
REALLY wants. We have to be careful to find out what the mom really wants.
At 15:31 10/3/02 -0400, you wrote:
I'm SO sorry that you had that kind of an experience at a LLL meeting! How
awful that must have felt! Having been a LLL leader, it saddens me to hear
that you did not feel any support at the meeting you attended, a meeting
where the primary purpose is to offer support and encouragement to ALL moms
who wish to breastfeed their babies. I can certainly understand why you
would have been brought to near tears after feeling attacked. I think I
would have felt that way, too! No mom should have to defend her choices to
ANYONE, certainly not people she is going to for HELP!
But, I do want to say that LLL's policy is offer support through
encouragement, not attacking moms choices! I pray and I believe that your
experience is not the typical experience a mom would have who had formerly
bottle-fed and wanted now to breastfeed. We certainly had moms attend our
meetings who had bottle-fed in the past, but LLL accepts all moms and
accepts people where they ARE now (or at least this is the ideal). Each
group is made up of the people who attend, and each leader is a volunteer
mom. Therefore, no two meetings and no two groups are exactly the same,
but I do know that LLL does not encourage its members or leaders to
criticize others' choices in any way. My co-leader said it well. She
asked moms who came to our meetings to think of the meetings as a
supermarket of ideas. Each mom knows her family and her situation best and
should only take the ideas that SHE feels would work in her situation, and
leave the rest, just as we don't buy everything in a supermarket. The
point is that LLL acknowledges that each mom is THE expert on her family.
It breaks my heart to think that you came away from La Leche League with
such a bad (but understandable) impression of the organization. Many
people have come to our meetings warily because they had heard that LLL was
nothing but a bunch of breastfeeding maniacs, and they were pleasantly
surprised and went on to become members and held group jobs and one person
I can think of became a leader applicant.
Warmly,
Marji
P.S. By the way, we have had moms who come to our LLL meetings or call me
on the phone because they want to wean from the breast and start
bottles. And, if this is the kind of support they need, this is the kind
of support a LLL leader would give. Having said that, sometimes a mom will
ask for that kind of information but on further questioning from the LLL
leader, there is, in fact, a different issue that needs to be resolved and
then the breastfeeding relationship can continue, IF that's what the mom
REALLY wants. We have to be careful to find out what the mom really wants.
At 15:31 10/3/02 -0400, you wrote:
>Be careful what you say if you go to their meetings! I formula-fed both my[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>boys because I had to work full time. When I had my third baby, I had been
>staying home for over 4 years, so I wanted to breastfeed her. I went to a
>meeting.... they asked about how I'd fed the boys, and I told them. The
>rest of the meeting was spent with them attacking my choices and telling
>me what a bad mom I was. Absolutely no support for me wanting to
>breastfeed now, no help or advice, nothing. Just criticism for past
>choices. I was almost in tears by the time I left.
>Myranda
>
> From: Judy
> attending LL Meetings is a must do while pregnant
> and the LLLI website is VERY helpful:
>
> http://lalecheleague.org/
Rachel Ann
Hugs,
What a horrible experience! And how so very helpful (she says, dripping sarcasm.)
How very sad for them. They could have welcomed a great mom into their midst, learned from you how to help mom's who were working to nurse (you could have told them what would and would not have worked for you...what you wish you knew etc.). and lost they opportunity to advise and help you become a nursing mom to your third.
Different groups have different folks. It pays to shop for the group you'll mesh with best. I had a great LLL group in NYC, but in Brooklyn, even though everyone was Jewish--and Orthodox Jews to boot, in contrast to the other group which was mixed (and where I was the only Orthodox member to the best of my recollection) they were less my type in terms of philosphy of life. They were lovely people, just not where I was at in different ways.
Anyway, though it may have been a long time ago, hugs to you for what you went through...
be well,
Rachel Ann
What a horrible experience! And how so very helpful (she says, dripping sarcasm.)
How very sad for them. They could have welcomed a great mom into their midst, learned from you how to help mom's who were working to nurse (you could have told them what would and would not have worked for you...what you wish you knew etc.). and lost they opportunity to advise and help you become a nursing mom to your third.
Different groups have different folks. It pays to shop for the group you'll mesh with best. I had a great LLL group in NYC, but in Brooklyn, even though everyone was Jewish--and Orthodox Jews to boot, in contrast to the other group which was mixed (and where I was the only Orthodox member to the best of my recollection) they were less my type in terms of philosphy of life. They were lovely people, just not where I was at in different ways.
Anyway, though it may have been a long time ago, hugs to you for what you went through...
be well,
Rachel Ann
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Be careful what you say if you go to their meetings! I formula-fed both my boys because I had to work full time. When I had my third baby, I had been staying home for over 4 years, so I wanted to breastfeed her. I went to a meeting.... they asked about how I'd fed the boys, and I told them. The rest of the meeting was spent with them attacking my choices and telling me what a bad mom I was. Absolutely no support for me wanting to breastfeed now, no help or advice, nothing. Just criticism for past choices. I was almost in tears by the time I left.
Myranda
From: Judy
attending LL Meetings is a must do while pregnant
and the LLLI website is VERY helpful:
http://lalecheleague.org/
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Kelli Traaseth
I always have liked to hang out with people that are older than me. Always enjoy myself more!
Kelli who will turn 35 in a few weeks!
Tia Leschke wrote:> Nancy, Are you older than me? I figured everyone is in the mid thirties!
I'm serious!!
I'll be 54 next month. My oldest is 27, and my grandkids are almost 8, 2
today, and 2months. I think Helen might be older than me. My "baby" will
be 15 in a couple of weeks.
Tia
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Kelli who will turn 35 in a few weeks!
Tia Leschke wrote:> Nancy, Are you older than me? I figured everyone is in the mid thirties!
I'm serious!!
I'll be 54 next month. My oldest is 27, and my grandkids are almost 8, 2
today, and 2months. I think Helen might be older than me. My "baby" will
be 15 in a couple of weeks.
Tia
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Myranda
Wow, would you come here and start a group Marji??? I'll come, I promise!!!! I would have loved to have a supporting group to go to, heck, I still would! As it ended up, my midwife was the only one to help me any, and that was just once right after the birth, and again twice on the telephone. Thankfully, I had no problems or I don't know if I would have been able to work them out. My only problem now is my little princess has gotten teeth and is not afraid to use them! LOL
I'll keep what you said about LLL's policies and such, I must just have found a lousy bunch. :-(
Myranda
(((((((Myranda)))))))
I'm SO sorry that you had that kind of an experience at a LLL meeting! How
awful that must have felt! Having been a LLL leader, it saddens me to hear
that you did not feel any support at the meeting you attended, a meeting
where the primary purpose is to offer support and encouragement to ALL moms
who wish to breastfeed their babies. I can certainly understand why you
would have been brought to near tears after feeling attacked. I think I
would have felt that way, too! No mom should have to defend her choices to
ANYONE, certainly not people she is going to for HELP!
But, I do want to say that LLL's policy is offer support through
encouragement, not attacking moms choices! I pray and I believe that your
experience is not the typical experience a mom would have who had formerly
bottle-fed and wanted now to breastfeed. We certainly had moms attend our
meetings who had bottle-fed in the past, but LLL accepts all moms and
accepts people where they ARE now (or at least this is the ideal). Each
group is made up of the people who attend, and each leader is a volunteer
mom. Therefore, no two meetings and no two groups are exactly the same,
but I do know that LLL does not encourage its members or leaders to
criticize others' choices in any way. My co-leader said it well. She
asked moms who came to our meetings to think of the meetings as a
supermarket of ideas. Each mom knows her family and her situation best and
should only take the ideas that SHE feels would work in her situation, and
leave the rest, just as we don't buy everything in a supermarket. The
point is that LLL acknowledges that each mom is THE expert on her family.
It breaks my heart to think that you came away from La Leche League with
such a bad (but understandable) impression of the organization. Many
people have come to our meetings warily because they had heard that LLL was
nothing but a bunch of breastfeeding maniacs, and they were pleasantly
surprised and went on to become members and held group jobs and one person
I can think of became a leader applicant.
Warmly,
Marji
P.S. By the way, we have had moms who come to our LLL meetings or call me
on the phone because they want to wean from the breast and start
bottles. And, if this is the kind of support they need, this is the kind
of support a LLL leader would give. Having said that, sometimes a mom will
ask for that kind of information but on further questioning from the LLL
leader, there is, in fact, a different issue that needs to be resolved and
then the breastfeeding relationship can continue, IF that's what the mom
REALLY wants. We have to be careful to find out what the mom really wants.
At 15:31 10/3/02 -0400, you wrote:
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I'll keep what you said about LLL's policies and such, I must just have found a lousy bunch. :-(
Myranda
(((((((Myranda)))))))
I'm SO sorry that you had that kind of an experience at a LLL meeting! How
awful that must have felt! Having been a LLL leader, it saddens me to hear
that you did not feel any support at the meeting you attended, a meeting
where the primary purpose is to offer support and encouragement to ALL moms
who wish to breastfeed their babies. I can certainly understand why you
would have been brought to near tears after feeling attacked. I think I
would have felt that way, too! No mom should have to defend her choices to
ANYONE, certainly not people she is going to for HELP!
But, I do want to say that LLL's policy is offer support through
encouragement, not attacking moms choices! I pray and I believe that your
experience is not the typical experience a mom would have who had formerly
bottle-fed and wanted now to breastfeed. We certainly had moms attend our
meetings who had bottle-fed in the past, but LLL accepts all moms and
accepts people where they ARE now (or at least this is the ideal). Each
group is made up of the people who attend, and each leader is a volunteer
mom. Therefore, no two meetings and no two groups are exactly the same,
but I do know that LLL does not encourage its members or leaders to
criticize others' choices in any way. My co-leader said it well. She
asked moms who came to our meetings to think of the meetings as a
supermarket of ideas. Each mom knows her family and her situation best and
should only take the ideas that SHE feels would work in her situation, and
leave the rest, just as we don't buy everything in a supermarket. The
point is that LLL acknowledges that each mom is THE expert on her family.
It breaks my heart to think that you came away from La Leche League with
such a bad (but understandable) impression of the organization. Many
people have come to our meetings warily because they had heard that LLL was
nothing but a bunch of breastfeeding maniacs, and they were pleasantly
surprised and went on to become members and held group jobs and one person
I can think of became a leader applicant.
Warmly,
Marji
P.S. By the way, we have had moms who come to our LLL meetings or call me
on the phone because they want to wean from the breast and start
bottles. And, if this is the kind of support they need, this is the kind
of support a LLL leader would give. Having said that, sometimes a mom will
ask for that kind of information but on further questioning from the LLL
leader, there is, in fact, a different issue that needs to be resolved and
then the breastfeeding relationship can continue, IF that's what the mom
REALLY wants. We have to be careful to find out what the mom really wants.
At 15:31 10/3/02 -0400, you wrote:
>Be careful what you say if you go to their meetings! I formula-fed both my[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>boys because I had to work full time. When I had my third baby, I had been
>staying home for over 4 years, so I wanted to breastfeed her. I went to a
>meeting.... they asked about how I'd fed the boys, and I told them. The
>rest of the meeting was spent with them attacking my choices and telling
>me what a bad mom I was. Absolutely no support for me wanting to
>breastfeed now, no help or advice, nothing. Just criticism for past
>choices. I was almost in tears by the time I left.
>Myranda
>
> From: Judy
> attending LL Meetings is a must do while pregnant
> and the LLLI website is VERY helpful:
>
> http://lalecheleague.org/
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Myranda
Thank you Rachel Ann!!!! I'm glad you guys all understand how I felt, my mom and DH both told me it didn't matter, to just let it go! It's hard to do that!!!
Myranda
Hugs,
What a horrible experience! And how so very helpful (she says, dripping sarcasm.)
How very sad for them. They could have welcomed a great mom into their midst, learned from you how to help mom's who were working to nurse (you could have told them what would and would not have worked for you...what you wish you knew etc.). and lost they opportunity to advise and help you become a nursing mom to your third.
Different groups have different folks. It pays to shop for the group you'll mesh with best. I had a great LLL group in NYC, but in Brooklyn, even though everyone was Jewish--and Orthodox Jews to boot, in contrast to the other group which was mixed (and where I was the only Orthodox member to the best of my recollection) they were less my type in terms of philosphy of life. They were lovely people, just not where I was at in different ways.
Anyway, though it may have been a long time ago, hugs to you for what you went through...
be well,
Rachel Ann
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Myranda
Hugs,
What a horrible experience! And how so very helpful (she says, dripping sarcasm.)
How very sad for them. They could have welcomed a great mom into their midst, learned from you how to help mom's who were working to nurse (you could have told them what would and would not have worked for you...what you wish you knew etc.). and lost they opportunity to advise and help you become a nursing mom to your third.
Different groups have different folks. It pays to shop for the group you'll mesh with best. I had a great LLL group in NYC, but in Brooklyn, even though everyone was Jewish--and Orthodox Jews to boot, in contrast to the other group which was mixed (and where I was the only Orthodox member to the best of my recollection) they were less my type in terms of philosphy of life. They were lovely people, just not where I was at in different ways.
Anyway, though it may have been a long time ago, hugs to you for what you went through...
be well,
Rachel Ann
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Tia Leschke
> Be careful what you say if you go to their meetings! I formula-fed both myboys because I had to work full time. When I had my third baby, I had been
staying home for over 4 years, so I wanted to breastfeed her. I went to a
meeting.... they asked about how I'd fed the boys, and I told them. The rest
of the meeting was spent with them attacking my choices and telling me what
a bad mom I was. Absolutely no support for me wanting to breastfeed now, no
help or advice, nothing. Just criticism for past choices. I was almost in
tears by the time I left.
How sad for you. From my experience with LLL, I think this was an oddity.
Any group I've been to would have expressed sympathy for what you felt you
had to do at the time and then gone on to help you nurse the new baby.
Tia
marji
Okay! I'm packing my bags!!! <G> In fact, I'm planning to come to the
SOS conference in South Carolina next week (!!!), and if I remember
correctly, you may be there, too! I'm REALLY looking forward to meeting
all these amazing unschooling folks; this is like a dream come-true for me!
The truth is that I am a retired (emphasis on -tired) leader and I'm not
running meetings anymore. But, that new-teeth thing is really quite
manageable! Please feel free to email me privately if you need some help
finding help or some strategies for dealing with your little sweetie trying
out her beautiful new teeth.
Warmly,
Marji
marji@...
At 16:44 10/3/02 -0400, you wrote:
SOS conference in South Carolina next week (!!!), and if I remember
correctly, you may be there, too! I'm REALLY looking forward to meeting
all these amazing unschooling folks; this is like a dream come-true for me!
The truth is that I am a retired (emphasis on -tired) leader and I'm not
running meetings anymore. But, that new-teeth thing is really quite
manageable! Please feel free to email me privately if you need some help
finding help or some strategies for dealing with your little sweetie trying
out her beautiful new teeth.
Warmly,
Marji
marji@...
At 16:44 10/3/02 -0400, you wrote:
>Wow, would you come here and start a group Marji??? I'll come, I[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>promise!!!! I would have loved to have a supporting group to go to, heck,
>I still would! As it ended up, my midwife was the only one to help me any,
>and that was just once right after the birth, and again twice on the
>telephone. Thankfully, I had no problems or I don't know if I would have
>been able to work them out. My only problem now is my little princess has
>gotten teeth and is not afraid to use them! LOL
>
>I'll keep what you said about LLL's policies and such, I must just have
>found a lousy bunch. :-(
>Myranda
> (((((((Myranda)))))))
>
> I'm SO sorry that you had that kind of an experience at a LLL
> meeting! How
> awful that must have felt! Having been a LLL leader, it saddens me to
> hear
> that you did not feel any support at the meeting you attended, a meeting
> where the primary purpose is to offer support and encouragement to ALL
> moms
> who wish to breastfeed their babies. I can certainly understand why you
> would have been brought to near tears after feeling attacked. I think I
> would have felt that way, too! No mom should have to defend her
> choices to
> ANYONE, certainly not people she is going to for HELP!
>
> But, I do want to say that LLL's policy is offer support through
> encouragement, not attacking moms choices! I pray and I believe that your
> experience is not the typical experience a mom would have who had formerly
> bottle-fed and wanted now to breastfeed. We certainly had moms attend our
> meetings who had bottle-fed in the past, but LLL accepts all moms and
> accepts people where they ARE now (or at least this is the ideal). Each
> group is made up of the people who attend, and each leader is a volunteer
> mom. Therefore, no two meetings and no two groups are exactly the same,
> but I do know that LLL does not encourage its members or leaders to
> criticize others' choices in any way. My co-leader said it well. She
> asked moms who came to our meetings to think of the meetings as a
> supermarket of ideas. Each mom knows her family and her situation best and
> should only take the ideas that SHE feels would work in her situation, and
> leave the rest, just as we don't buy everything in a supermarket. The
> point is that LLL acknowledges that each mom is THE expert on her family.
>
> It breaks my heart to think that you came away from La Leche League with
> such a bad (but understandable) impression of the organization. Many
> people have come to our meetings warily because they had heard that LLL
> was
> nothing but a bunch of breastfeeding maniacs, and they were pleasantly
> surprised and went on to become members and held group jobs and one person
> I can think of became a leader applicant.
>
> Warmly,
>
> Marji
>
> P.S. By the way, we have had moms who come to our LLL meetings or call me
> on the phone because they want to wean from the breast and start
> bottles. And, if this is the kind of support they need, this is the kind
> of support a LLL leader would give. Having said that, sometimes a mom
> will
> ask for that kind of information but on further questioning from the LLL
> leader, there is, in fact, a different issue that needs to be resolved and
> then the breastfeeding relationship can continue, IF that's what the mom
> REALLY wants. We have to be careful to find out what the mom really wants.
>
>
> At 15:31 10/3/02 -0400, you wrote:
> >Be careful what you say if you go to their meetings! I formula-fed
> both my
> >boys because I had to work full time. When I had my third baby, I had
> been
> >staying home for over 4 years, so I wanted to breastfeed her. I went to a
> >meeting.... they asked about how I'd fed the boys, and I told them. The
> >rest of the meeting was spent with them attacking my choices and telling
> >me what a bad mom I was. Absolutely no support for me wanting to
> >breastfeed now, no help or advice, nothing. Just criticism for past
> >choices. I was almost in tears by the time I left.
> >Myranda
> >
> > From: Judy
> > attending LL Meetings is a must do while pregnant
> > and the LLLI website is VERY helpful:
> >
> > http://lalecheleague.org/
>
>
>
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Wonderful!!! I'm not going to be able to make it though. :*( We just don't have the money right now. I live close by, and will hopefully be able to drop in to meet some folks, though!
Thanks a bunch regarding the teefers, she's played nice the past 3 days, I'll definitely be e-mailing you if she starts back up! :-)
Myranda
Okay! I'm packing my bags!!! <G> In fact, I'm planning to come to the
SOS conference in South Carolina next week (!!!), and if I remember
correctly, you may be there, too! I'm REALLY looking forward to meeting
all these amazing unschooling folks; this is like a dream come-true for me!
The truth is that I am a retired (emphasis on -tired) leader and I'm not
running meetings anymore. But, that new-teeth thing is really quite
manageable! Please feel free to email me privately if you need some help
finding help or some strategies for dealing with your little sweetie trying
out her beautiful new teeth.
Warmly,
Marji
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Thanks a bunch regarding the teefers, she's played nice the past 3 days, I'll definitely be e-mailing you if she starts back up! :-)
Myranda
Okay! I'm packing my bags!!! <G> In fact, I'm planning to come to the
SOS conference in South Carolina next week (!!!), and if I remember
correctly, you may be there, too! I'm REALLY looking forward to meeting
all these amazing unschooling folks; this is like a dream come-true for me!
The truth is that I am a retired (emphasis on -tired) leader and I'm not
running meetings anymore. But, that new-teeth thing is really quite
manageable! Please feel free to email me privately if you need some help
finding help or some strategies for dealing with your little sweetie trying
out her beautiful new teeth.
Warmly,
Marji
marji@...
At 16:44 10/3/02 -0400, you wrote:
>Wow, would you come here and start a group Marji??? I'll come, I[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>promise!!!! I would have loved to have a supporting group to go to, heck,
>I still would! As it ended up, my midwife was the only one to help me any,
>and that was just once right after the birth, and again twice on the
>telephone. Thankfully, I had no problems or I don't know if I would have
>been able to work them out. My only problem now is my little princess has
>gotten teeth and is not afraid to use them! LOL
>
>I'll keep what you said about LLL's policies and such, I must just have
>found a lousy bunch. :-(
>Myranda
> (((((((Myranda)))))))
>
> I'm SO sorry that you had that kind of an experience at a LLL
> meeting! How
> awful that must have felt! Having been a LLL leader, it saddens me to
> hear
> that you did not feel any support at the meeting you attended, a meeting
> where the primary purpose is to offer support and encouragement to ALL
> moms
> who wish to breastfeed their babies. I can certainly understand why you
> would have been brought to near tears after feeling attacked. I think I
> would have felt that way, too! No mom should have to defend her
> choices to
> ANYONE, certainly not people she is going to for HELP!
>
> But, I do want to say that LLL's policy is offer support through
> encouragement, not attacking moms choices! I pray and I believe that your
> experience is not the typical experience a mom would have who had formerly
> bottle-fed and wanted now to breastfeed. We certainly had moms attend our
> meetings who had bottle-fed in the past, but LLL accepts all moms and
> accepts people where they ARE now (or at least this is the ideal). Each
> group is made up of the people who attend, and each leader is a volunteer
> mom. Therefore, no two meetings and no two groups are exactly the same,
> but I do know that LLL does not encourage its members or leaders to
> criticize others' choices in any way. My co-leader said it well. She
> asked moms who came to our meetings to think of the meetings as a
> supermarket of ideas. Each mom knows her family and her situation best and
> should only take the ideas that SHE feels would work in her situation, and
> leave the rest, just as we don't buy everything in a supermarket. The
> point is that LLL acknowledges that each mom is THE expert on her family.
>
> It breaks my heart to think that you came away from La Leche League with
> such a bad (but understandable) impression of the organization. Many
> people have come to our meetings warily because they had heard that LLL
> was
> nothing but a bunch of breastfeeding maniacs, and they were pleasantly
> surprised and went on to become members and held group jobs and one person
> I can think of became a leader applicant.
>
> Warmly,
>
> Marji
>
> P.S. By the way, we have had moms who come to our LLL meetings or call me
> on the phone because they want to wean from the breast and start
> bottles. And, if this is the kind of support they need, this is the kind
> of support a LLL leader would give. Having said that, sometimes a mom
> will
> ask for that kind of information but on further questioning from the LLL
> leader, there is, in fact, a different issue that needs to be resolved and
> then the breastfeeding relationship can continue, IF that's what the mom
> REALLY wants. We have to be careful to find out what the mom really wants.
>
>
> At 15:31 10/3/02 -0400, you wrote:
> >Be careful what you say if you go to their meetings! I formula-fed
> both my
> >boys because I had to work full time. When I had my third baby, I had
> been
> >staying home for over 4 years, so I wanted to breastfeed her. I went to a
> >meeting.... they asked about how I'd fed the boys, and I told them. The
> >rest of the meeting was spent with them attacking my choices and telling
> >me what a bad mom I was. Absolutely no support for me wanting to
> >breastfeed now, no help or advice, nothing. Just criticism for past
> >choices. I was almost in tears by the time I left.
> >Myranda
> >
> > From: Judy
> > attending LL Meetings is a must do while pregnant
> > and the LLLI website is VERY helpful:
> >
> > http://lalecheleague.org/
>
>
>
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>From: "Tia Leschke" <leschke@...><<I figured everyone is in the mid thirties!
I'm serious!!>>
In my mind I'm in my mid 30's!!!! Does that count??
Mary B
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Go ahead -- read it and see!
If you find you don't want to get a subscription for yourself you could
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Do you think I would still like Mothering, even tho' I'm past the birthing
part of my life?**
Go ahead -- read it and see!
If you find you don't want to get a subscription for yourself you could
perhaps give a subscription to a young woman who would benefit from it
or donate a subscription to your local library.
I think it's great to spread the word.
Betsy
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kellitraas@... writes:
> Nancy, Are you older than me? I figured everyone is in the mid thirties!I'm 28, I will be 29 November 15. <g>
> I'm serious!!
> Kelli
~Nancy
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Rachel Ann
I'm with you there Mary B. But if I were in my 30's I'd have had to be a
child bride, so it is just as well!
Rachel Ann, who will be 44 Jan 18th.
child bride, so it is just as well!
Rachel Ann, who will be 44 Jan 18th.
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Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Mothering Magazine?
> >From: "Tia Leschke" <leschke@...>
>
> <<I figured everyone is in the mid thirties!
> I'm serious!!>>
>
> In my mind I'm in my mid 30's!!!! Does that count??
>
>
> Mary B
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Is that about everyone's age here? Don't tell me I'm the youngest!!!
<<I figured everyone is in the mid thirties!
I'm serious!!>>
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really looking forward to it.
You're only as old as you feel!
Collette
> Is that about everyone's age here? Don't tell me I'm theyoungest!!!
> <<I figured everyone is in the mid thirties!couple of months we're planning on starting on another one. I'm
> I'm serious!!>>
> Hi Myranda. I turned 35 in July. I have a 9 y/o dd and within a
really looking forward to it.
You're only as old as you feel!
Collette
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
kayb85
I'm 30.
Sheila
Sheila
--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., "Myranda" <myrandab@b...> wrote:
> Is that about everyone's age here? Don't tell me I'm the
youngest!!!
> <<I figured everyone is in the mid thirties!
> I'm serious!!>>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Kelli Traaseth
Sure, I'm sure alot of us feel the same way about age; we enjoy all ages because there are so many different facets to each age and we can learn from all!
Kelli
Mary Bianco wrote:>From: "Tia Leschke"
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In my mind I'm in my mid 30's!!!! Does that count??
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Yes, this is a good idea, my husband is on the library board and I could find out if they have a subscription. If they don't that would be a great donation! Our small town needs these natural and wonderful ideas!
Kelli
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So if you want to give your library a subscription gift, do you just
walk in and hand them a gift card stating that they'll be receiving
the magazine, or do you ask their permission first?
Sheila
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would be a great donation! Our small town needs these natural and
wonderful ideas!
owner, Helen Hegener (HEM-Editor@h...).
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the magazine, or do you ask their permission first?
Sheila
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>I could find out if they have a subscription. If they don't that
> Yes, this is a good idea, my husband is on the library board and
would be a great donation! Our small town needs these natural and
wonderful ideas!
> Kellibirthing
> Betsy wrote:**
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Cool!
Kelli, feeling so mature!
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Kelli, feeling so mature!
Dnowens@... wrote:In a message dated 10/3/02 12:26:28 PM Central Daylight Time,
kellitraas@... writes:
> Nancy, Are you older than me? I figured everyone is in the mid thirties!I'm 28, I will be 29 November 15. <g>
> I'm serious!!
> Kelli
~Nancy
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