Maria and GA laws
Mary Bianco
Each school day must consist of four and one-half hours. Ga. Code Ann. �
20-2-690(c)(5).
Attendance records must be kept and submitted to the superintendent each
month. The records will "not be used for any purpose except providing
necessary attendance information." Ga. Code Ann. � 20-2-690(c)(6).
Parent must write an annual progress report and retain it for three years.
Ga. Code Ann. � 20-2-690(c)(8).
Standardized Tests: Children must take a national standardized achievement
test every three years beginning at the end of the third grade. "Test scores
are not required to be submitted to public school authorities." Ga. Code
Ann. � 20-2-690(c)(7).
Well these are just some of the GA laws that some were speaking of. Seems to
be they want attendence take and certain subjects taught. Well in MHO, mark
attendence on some calenders and and say you taught the subjects in the
hours you were too every day.
And it does seem like they want testing done every 3 years starting at 3rd
grade. But the scores are NOT required to be sent in to the school system
and that means you can be the only one to see them. And the written annual
evaluation could just show improvement.
The part that really gets me is where they say this:
"According to the Attorney General of Georgia, the local superintendent does
not the have the authority to require parents to affirmatively produce
evidence of their continuing compliance with the law in the operation of
home study programs or require the production of documents. Although the
superintendent has the authority to "request" such materials, he cannot
require parents to submit them. 1986 Op. Att'y. Gen. No. U86-19
So what I'm seeing is that you should keep the records but have the right to
refuse them if anyone asks to see. Sounds easy enough to me.
Mary B
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20-2-690(c)(5).
Attendance records must be kept and submitted to the superintendent each
month. The records will "not be used for any purpose except providing
necessary attendance information." Ga. Code Ann. � 20-2-690(c)(6).
Parent must write an annual progress report and retain it for three years.
Ga. Code Ann. � 20-2-690(c)(8).
Standardized Tests: Children must take a national standardized achievement
test every three years beginning at the end of the third grade. "Test scores
are not required to be submitted to public school authorities." Ga. Code
Ann. � 20-2-690(c)(7).
Well these are just some of the GA laws that some were speaking of. Seems to
be they want attendence take and certain subjects taught. Well in MHO, mark
attendence on some calenders and and say you taught the subjects in the
hours you were too every day.
And it does seem like they want testing done every 3 years starting at 3rd
grade. But the scores are NOT required to be sent in to the school system
and that means you can be the only one to see them. And the written annual
evaluation could just show improvement.
The part that really gets me is where they say this:
"According to the Attorney General of Georgia, the local superintendent does
not the have the authority to require parents to affirmatively produce
evidence of their continuing compliance with the law in the operation of
home study programs or require the production of documents. Although the
superintendent has the authority to "request" such materials, he cannot
require parents to submit them. 1986 Op. Att'y. Gen. No. U86-19
So what I'm seeing is that you should keep the records but have the right to
refuse them if anyone asks to see. Sounds easy enough to me.
Mary B
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On Fri, 13 Sep 2002 01:12:38 +0000 "Mary Bianco" <mummyone24@...>
writes:
Dar
writes:
> Each school day must consist of four and one-half hours. Ga. CodeAll of ours last 24.
> Ann. §
> 20-2-690(c)(5).
Dar
Maria
> Standardized Tests: Children must take a national standardizedachievement
> test every three years beginning at the end of the thirdgrade. "Test scores
> are not required to be submitted to public school authorities." Ga.Code
> Ann. § 20-2-690(c)(7).What is a standardized test? I thought it was the board of education
that did these tests.
> "According to the Attorney General of Georgia, the localsuperintendent does
> not the have the authority to require parents to affirmativelyproduce
> evidence of their continuing compliance with the law in theoperation of
> home study programs or require the production of documents.Although the
> superintendent has the authority to "request" such materials, hecannot
> require parents to submit them. 1986 Op. Att'y. Gen. No. U86-19Could you share the link where you found this?
And thanks for your help.
Maria
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In a message dated 9/13/02 2:16:24 AM Central Daylight Time,
lyciall@... writes:
their grade level. It gives a timed test in different subject areas like
reading, reading comprehension, and math. I remember taking the ITBS (Iowa
Test of Basic Skills *I think*) and I know the public schooled kids around
here take the CAT (California Achievement Test) The schools use them to show
they are teaching the right things to the kids, and use the average test
scores to get government money. If a school has a low rate of passing or
average grades, they can get grants and other government money. If the school
has a high rate of passing or average grades, they can get grants and other
government money. <g> If a child doesn't *do well* on a test in school the
teacher *may* go over the scores with the parents and they *might* discuss
things like average scores and what to do to help Johnny or Susie pass the
test next time! Another thing schools do if they have consistently low scores
(all around, not just one or two children) is teach the test. This means that
the teachers spend the majority of their time drilling kids on exactly what
they need to know to pass the tests. In some areas this is to the exclusion
of all else in school. In Georgia, if your child takes the test, you get the
scores. It will be for you and you only. The problem will be that you will
see this supposed line up of where your child stands compared to an average
100 other students. What does that tell you? It tells you that if your child
falls in the 89 percentile, then 87 children did worse than your child and 11
percent did better. It won't get you extra money, it won't be reported to
your local third grade teacher. I guess Georgia, like some other states,
feels that parents must want to know where their child stands on this line.
But what does that mean to you as a homeschooler? Well, I guess that depends
on you and how much importance you place on a test. <g> Just remember there
are other states with more rules and restrictions and Unschoolers live and
*survive* ;o) in those! <eg> ~Nancy
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lyciall@... writes:
> What is a standardized test? I thought it was the board of educationStandardized tests are tests given to show a child knows the *standard* for
> that did these tests.
their grade level. It gives a timed test in different subject areas like
reading, reading comprehension, and math. I remember taking the ITBS (Iowa
Test of Basic Skills *I think*) and I know the public schooled kids around
here take the CAT (California Achievement Test) The schools use them to show
they are teaching the right things to the kids, and use the average test
scores to get government money. If a school has a low rate of passing or
average grades, they can get grants and other government money. If the school
has a high rate of passing or average grades, they can get grants and other
government money. <g> If a child doesn't *do well* on a test in school the
teacher *may* go over the scores with the parents and they *might* discuss
things like average scores and what to do to help Johnny or Susie pass the
test next time! Another thing schools do if they have consistently low scores
(all around, not just one or two children) is teach the test. This means that
the teachers spend the majority of their time drilling kids on exactly what
they need to know to pass the tests. In some areas this is to the exclusion
of all else in school. In Georgia, if your child takes the test, you get the
scores. It will be for you and you only. The problem will be that you will
see this supposed line up of where your child stands compared to an average
100 other students. What does that tell you? It tells you that if your child
falls in the 89 percentile, then 87 children did worse than your child and 11
percent did better. It won't get you extra money, it won't be reported to
your local third grade teacher. I guess Georgia, like some other states,
feels that parents must want to know where their child stands on this line.
But what does that mean to you as a homeschooler? Well, I guess that depends
on you and how much importance you place on a test. <g> Just remember there
are other states with more rules and restrictions and Unschoolers live and
*survive* ;o) in those! <eg> ~Nancy
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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On Fri, 13 Sep 2002 10:55:37 EDT Dnowens@... writes:
given to thousands and thousands of kids, and then tweaked and retweaked
so that they effectively divide the testees into different levels. So, a
test item that was most often missed by overall high scorers but answered
correctly by overall low scorers is generally taken out of the test.
Think of a standardized system for grading, um, tomoatoes. You would ask
a series of questions about each tomato (is the color a deep, clear red?
is the color uniform? it it firm but not hard? is it uniformly round?)
and you would have it set up so that a tomato with 4 or 5 out of 5 yeses
is grade A, 3 is grade B, 2 is grade C, and 1 or 2 is sauce. I'm making
these up, I know nothing about tomato grading but I'm currently
surrounded by fields and trucks full of 'em.
So, a standardized test is intended to compare, and to categorize. It's
not really about whether a kid knows the state standards for learning,
it's about whether he scores better or worse on a test supposedly based
on those standards than other kids his age - and the tests are set up so
that very few kids will be able to get all of the questions right,
they're set up so that kids will fail, because god forbid we have too
many Grade A kids.
I think almost all tests should be criterion-referenced, not
standardized. Criterion-referenced tests are like your driver's license
test - they test whether or not you have mastered a set body of
knowledge. You pass or you don't, and if you don't you can do it again.
You're not compared with every other 16 year old who takes the test,
because that's not the point. Why does society have this intence need to
sort kids out into good tomoatoes and bad tomoatoes?
daron
> Standardized tests are tests given to show a child knows the*standard* for
> their grade level. It gives a timed test in different subject areasITBS
> like reading, reading comprehension, and math. I remember taking the
> (Iowa Test of Basic Skills *I think*) and I know the public schooledkids
> around here take the CAT (California Achievement Test) The schools usethem
> to show they are teaching the right things to the kids, and use theaverage test
> scores to get government money.he "standardized" part of standardized testing means that the tests were
given to thousands and thousands of kids, and then tweaked and retweaked
so that they effectively divide the testees into different levels. So, a
test item that was most often missed by overall high scorers but answered
correctly by overall low scorers is generally taken out of the test.
Think of a standardized system for grading, um, tomoatoes. You would ask
a series of questions about each tomato (is the color a deep, clear red?
is the color uniform? it it firm but not hard? is it uniformly round?)
and you would have it set up so that a tomato with 4 or 5 out of 5 yeses
is grade A, 3 is grade B, 2 is grade C, and 1 or 2 is sauce. I'm making
these up, I know nothing about tomato grading but I'm currently
surrounded by fields and trucks full of 'em.
So, a standardized test is intended to compare, and to categorize. It's
not really about whether a kid knows the state standards for learning,
it's about whether he scores better or worse on a test supposedly based
on those standards than other kids his age - and the tests are set up so
that very few kids will be able to get all of the questions right,
they're set up so that kids will fail, because god forbid we have too
many Grade A kids.
I think almost all tests should be criterion-referenced, not
standardized. Criterion-referenced tests are like your driver's license
test - they test whether or not you have mastered a set body of
knowledge. You pass or you don't, and if you don't you can do it again.
You're not compared with every other 16 year old who takes the test,
because that's not the point. Why does society have this intence need to
sort kids out into good tomoatoes and bad tomoatoes?
daron