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In a message dated 9/9/02 11:21:19 AM Central Daylight Time,
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<< In an article in the new Home Education Magazine, Liza Sabater was
describing
the package and way of life school becomes for people: "With school come
friends and peers; elders and role models; the time for learning and the
time
for doing everything else." >>

Thanks for bringing this up. I had meant to say "Way to go Liza!!"
Loved your article. I am loaning my copy of HEM to a friend that just started
homeschooling this year and is really having a hard time relaxing.
Great read.

Ren

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In a message dated 9/9/02 2:29:34 PM, starsuncloud@... writes:

<< Thanks for bringing this up. I had meant to say "Way to go Liza!!" >>

AND (drumroll please...)

Today is the last day of Liza's first year homeschooling! Tomorrow's her
anniversary day, beginning of the second year!

Applause, Liza, for the article and for your finishing a year.

Sandra

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In a message dated 9/9/02 4:38:49 PM Central Daylight Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:


> Today is the last day of Liza's first year homeschooling! Tomorrow's her
> anniversary day, beginning of the second year!
>
> Applause, Liza, for the article and for your finishing a year.
>
> Sandra

Yea!!! Liza!!!! Yea Liza's family!!! Congrats! <vbg>
~Nancy


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zenmomma *

>>Today is the last day of Liza's first year homeschooling! Tomorrow's her
>>anniversary day, beginning of the second year!
>
>Applause, Liza, for the article and for your finishing a year.>>

Oh yes! ::applause, applause, applause::
Great article and happy anniversary Liza & kids. :o)

I really liked your piece this month too, Sandra. But I would have picked
different movies. ;-)

Life is good.
~Mary


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In a message dated 9/9/02 7:06:53 PM, zenmomma@... writes:

<< I really liked your piece this month too, Sandra.>>

Thank you.

<< But I would have picked
different movies. ;-) >>

Spill it, please.

I can add them to the article when it's online. That one didn't make HEM's
online cut this month, so I get to put it up myself! I can put a PS or a
second comments page, or something and say "Mary Gold says to watch THESE
movies instead:"

Sandra

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on 9/9/02 11:37 PM, SandraDodd@... at SandraDodd@... wrote:

> Mary Gold says

Who's Mary Gold? Does this mean I spent all day with Mary and didn't realize
I didn't know her last name????

Boy the internet sure challenges some ideas about what the requirements for
a friendship are ;-)

Joyce

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In a message dated 9/10/02 2:30:49 AM, fetteroll@... writes:

<< Boy the internet sure challenges some ideas about what the requirements for
a friendship are ;-) >>

I'm used to that from the SCA. I can know someone for YEARS by their SCA
name and be surprised when I hear their real name for the first time.

Sandra

zenmomma *

>>Who's Mary Gold? Does this mean I spent all day with Mary and didn't
>>realize I didn't know her last name????>>

Okay, I'm thinking back to ALL those emails to plan that NYC visit. I guess
I never would have had reason to state my last name, huh? I never even
thought about it. Funny. Maybe it's because I try to avoid those inevitable
"Did you know your name is marigold?" comments. ;-)

>>Boy the internet sure challenges some ideas about what the requirements
>>for a friendship are ;-)>>

Internet friendships start with ideas and discussion. Then we move on to the
trivialities of faces and names. :o)

Life is good.
~Mary

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Liza Sabater

Thanks Mary!

I replied to this earlier but wanted to make sure you read this. It's
been incredible. We came back from the AMNH and Central Park. We went
looking for dioramas of volcanos but ended up looking at dinosaurs
because the kids found the Earth gallery much too scary --isn't that
weird? They are not freaked out by a 3 stories-high skeleton but will
freak by igneous rocks. I do have to say that it was because the
gallery was dark and it had this deep, low, humming sound that WAS
kinda creepy. Noises, not images will freak out Evan more these days.
Even though I hope it will pass, it goes to show that the dingbats at
the museum do not know what they are doing. There are sections that
are truly NOT kid-friendly.

Anyhow, it has been a year and for the first time in a year I feel
that, yes, we are actually unschooling. Evan wants to learn how to
write all these intriguing words he has learned like
"excavation","carnosaur" and such. He really wants to read, so he can
stop asking us to read the instructions on his CD-ROM and webgames.
And Aidan is fascinated with the I SPY books and money so we are
doing a lot of I SPY in English and Spanish and a lot of counting and
sorting. Even at 2.5, they know what they want and how to accomplish
it. It's so damn cute to hear him go, "Mom, COME. Sit here, READ! If
it is an I SPY book I have him *read* it. So he starts *reading*.
Then Evan joins in and I leave because now, the two of them are
*reading* together. It is so AWESOME!

Before I bought the "Hey, I'm Reading" book, I had told Evan that
before reading words he could learn how to read images. Well, after
we got the aforementioned book, it validated what I had told him and
boy, now he just does not stop reading signs. That's why both love
the I SPY books (they both can read them, right?); and that's why he
can't wait to learn how to read more words. One thing I love about
NYC is the NY Public Library --we have resources galore. DK
Publishing has the "Eyewitness" Nature & Science Books and Video
series. The library has virtually all of them and what is great is
that you can take out both the video and the book. So we watch the
videos (I'm a sucker for nature documentaries) and then at night or
during down time we read the books. And in them we get all sorts of
ideas for projects and what not. Let's say, it's fun.

This, I truly believe, would not have been possible if I had not had
that "A-HA!" moment about deschooling. The whole topic came up in the
writers list at HEM and that's how it ended as an article. I am sure,
given the amount of input I had from veteran homeschoolers, that it
will be as helpful to others as it has been to me. Writing that
article really calmed me down.

Best,
Liza





> >>Today is the last day of Liza's first year homeschooling! Tomorrow's her
>>>anniversary day, beginning of the second year!
>>
>>Applause, Liza, for the article and for your finishing a year.>>
>
>Oh yes! ::applause, applause, applause::
>Great article and happy anniversary Liza & kids. :o)
>
>I really liked your piece this month too, Sandra. But I would have picked
>different movies. ;-)
>
>Life is good.
>~Mary
>

Liza Sabater

:-)

If you had not mentioned this, I would have forgotten completely! It
truly brought tears to my eyes because, really, WOW! It's been a year.

Thanks,
Liza



>In a message dated 9/9/02 2:29:34 PM, starsuncloud@... writes:
>
><< Thanks for bringing this up. I had meant to say "Way to go Liza!!" >>
>
>AND (drumroll please...)
>
>Today is the last day of Liza's first year homeschooling! Tomorrow's her
>anniversary day, beginning of the second year!
>
>Applause, Liza, for the article and for your finishing a year.
>
>Sandra


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Liza Sabater

Thanks!

Too bad Mark is not here (see my previous post). He called earlier
and said was fine --I just hope nothing stupid happens tomorrow or
later, especially in Europe (where he is right now). Anyhow, it's not
just that we are proud of this first year but, really, I can't
imagine NOT homeschooling and, at that, unschooling.

As Mary would say, life is good.

Liza




>In a message dated 9/9/02 4:38:49 PM Central Daylight Time,
>SandraDodd@... writes:
>
>
>> Today is the last day of Liza's first year homeschooling! Tomorrow's her
>> anniversary day, beginning of the second year!
>>
>> Applause, Liza, for the article and for your finishing a year.
>>
>> Sandra
>
>Yea!!! Liza!!!! Yea Liza's family!!! Congrats! <vbg>
>~Nancy
>

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Liza Sabater

I just read this message! (I have been lurking so some of these have
escaped my radar).

I had a blast writing that article because of the amount of input I
got from all the homeschooling lists (or communities) I posted to.
Reading people's deschooling stories really put things into
perspective and just calmed us down (Mark was the first reader of the
article). Now, it is real and not a theory that every single moment
of out lives is a learning experience. That's why, although I do not
post a lot, I love lurking, like a cat, and pouncing at topics once
in a while. It's fun and it's all part of the process.

Best,
Liza



>In a message dated 9/9/02 11:21:19 AM Central Daylight Time,
>[email protected] writes:
>
><< In an article in the new Home Education Magazine, Liza Sabater was
>describing
>the package and way of life school becomes for people: "With school come
>friends and peers; elders and role models; the time for learning and the
>time
>for doing everything else." >>
>
>Thanks for bringing this up. I had meant to say "Way to go Liza!!"
>Loved your article. I am loaning my copy of HEM to a friend that just started
>homeschooling this year and is really having a hard time relaxing.
>Great read.
>
>Ren
>

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