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***Holly asked Friday why "crap" is okay to say and "shit" is not.***

How did you explain the distinction to her? My children are also fascinated with taboo words, and while they're free to say what they want in our own home around our own family, I try to help them understand how important it is to edit their language according to who's around.

Patti

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In a message dated 9/8/02 10:54:49 AM, patti.schmidt2@... writes:

<< ***Holly asked Friday why "crap" is okay to say and "shit" is not.***

<<How did you explain the distinction to her? >>

We laughed at the silliness of it, and I said 'shit' is an older word, but
other than that I had no idea.

Sometimes I do know. That time I didn't. <g>

Sandra

kayb85

Maybe because "shit" was more popular at a time when people were more
into being "proper" and "crap" is more modern. "Crap" probably came
onto the scene after the list of "bad curse words" were already
established.

It is rather silly, isn't it?

Kind of like taking off a hat to show respect--exactly WHY does
taking a piece of material off of your head show respect? I usually
don't like to accept the "that's just the way it is" kind of answer.

Sheila


--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., SandraDodd@a... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 9/8/02 10:54:49 AM, patti.schmidt2@v... writes:
>
> << ***Holly asked Friday why "crap" is okay to say and "shit" is
not.***
>
> <<How did you explain the distinction to her? >>
>
> We laughed at the silliness of it, and I said 'shit' is an older
word, but
> other than that I had no idea.
>
> Sometimes I do know. That time I didn't. <g>
>
> Sandra

debi watson

Crap is considered just as foul, if not more so, in South Africa. And I think the hat thing came in from being bareheaded, and therefore somehow unprotected or something, as a sign of respect. Sort of along the lines of handshaking evolving from being a shakedown for concealed weapons. Some of this stuff has documented historical basis; other times it's just conjecture. Debi
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From: kayb85
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Maybe because "shit" was more popular at a time when people were more
into being "proper" and "crap" is more modern. "Crap" probably came
onto the scene after the list of "bad curse words" were already
established.

It is rather silly, isn't it?

Kind of like taking off a hat to show respect--exactly WHY does
taking a piece of material off of your head show respect? I usually
don't like to accept the "that's just the way it is" kind of answer.

Sheila


--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., SandraDodd@a... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 9/8/02 10:54:49 AM, patti.schmidt2@v... writes:
>
> << ***Holly asked Friday why "crap" is okay to say and "shit" is
not.***
>
> <<How did you explain the distinction to her? >>
>
> We laughed at the silliness of it, and I said 'shit' is an older
word, but
> other than that I had no idea.
>
> Sometimes I do know. That time I didn't. <g>
>
> Sandra


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callymom2000

<< ***Holly asked Friday why "crap" is okay to say and "shit" is
not.***

My first thought was maybe it had something to do with Thomas
Crapper, being the supposed inventor of the toliet.

I found this with google:

http://www.rotorooter.com/fun_history_1904.html

Interesting anyway.

Cally




Thomas Crapper

Did Thomas Crapper really invent the toilet? The debate over who
Thomas Crapper was — or even if there was a Thomas Crapper at all
—
continues. Below are some of the facts flushed out by Dr. Andy
Gibbons, historian of the International Thomas Crapper Society, and
Ken Grabowski, a researcher and author who is writing a book on
Crapper's life.

Myth: Thomas Crapper as a person never existed.

Fact: Though we do not know his actual date of birth, we can say a
man, Thomas Crapper, was probably born in September, 1836, since he
was baptized the 28th of that month. He died on January 27, 1910.

Myth: Thomas Crapper invented the toilet.

Fact: Although from 1861 to 1904 Crapper did have a successful career
in the plumbing industry, holding nine patents for plumbing-related
products in England, he did not invent the toilet. Albert Giblin
holds the 1819 British Patent for the Silent Valveless Water Waste
Preventer, a system that allowed a toilet to flush effectively.
Giblin worked for Crapper as an employee and the most likely scenario
is that Crapper bought the patent rights from Giblin and marketed the
device himself.

Myth: The word crap is derived from Thomas Crapper's name.

Fact: World War 1 doughboys passing through England saw the words T.
Crapper Chelsea printed on the water tanks and coined the slang
crapper meaning toilet

Judy

I thought crap came from the inventor of the toilet- Thomas Crapper.

http://www.plumbingworld.com/historythomas.html

kayb85 wrote:

> Maybe because "shit" was more popular at a time when people were more
>
> into being "proper" and "crap" is more modern. "Crap" probably came
> onto the scene after the list of "bad curse words" were already
> established.
>
> It is rather silly, isn't it?
>
> Kind of like taking off a hat to show respect--exactly WHY does
> taking a piece of material off of your head show respect? I usually
> don't like to accept the "that's just the way it is" kind of answer.
>
> Sheila
>
>
> --- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., SandraDodd@a... wrote:
> >
> > In a message dated 9/8/02 10:54:49 AM, patti.schmidt2@v... writes:
> >
> > << ***Holly asked Friday why "crap" is okay to say and "shit" is
> not.***
> >
> > <<How did you explain the distinction to her? >>
> >
> > We laughed at the silliness of it, and I said 'shit' is an older
> word, but
> > other than that I had no idea.
> >
> > Sometimes I do know. That time I didn't. <g>
> >
> > Sandra
>
>
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