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In a message dated 09/06/2002 12:48:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
mummyone24@... writes:


> I'm just curious because I guess I haven't run into any of these people. Are
> the majority of Christian homeshoolers like this???
>
Mary,
All I can say is that most of the people didn't leave the room. Whether they
agreed with the presenter or not, I can not say.
Ginny



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In a message dated 9/6/02 3:07:44 PM Central Daylight Time,
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<< The
Bible DOES say if you spare the rod, you spoil the child >>

Could you please quote me the verse that says "spare the rod spoil the child"?
It does not exist.
There is talk of a rod and using it as guidance.
Like you, I never saw it as something you were supposed to hit with. I
picture a sheperd using it to keep the sheep from dangerous cliffs and the
like.
Not something he hit them with when they didn't do what he wanted.
But I don't use the Bible as my sole guide to life. I don't think it's all
accurate, I think there is major human dabbling and alterations.
All in all it is a wonderful piece of history, and I have gained many
wonderful spiritual lessons and been uplifted.
But I like to think that God gave me a brain and the powers of reasoning to
use them, even where the Bible is concerned. After all, I don't think he
wrote it!! :)

Ren

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--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., starsuncloud@c... wrote:
> In a message dated 9/6/02 3:07:44 PM Central Daylight Time,
> Unschooling-dotcom@y... writes:
>
> << The
> Bible DOES say if you spare the rod, you spoil the child >>
>
> Could you please quote me the verse that says "spare the rod
spoil the child"?
> It does not exist.
> There is talk of a rod and using it as guidance.
> Like you, I never saw it as something you were supposed to hit
with. I
> picture a sheperd using it to keep the sheep from dangerous
cliffs and the
> like.
> Not something he hit them with when they didn't do what he
wanted.
> But I don't use the Bible as my sole guide to life. I don't think it's
all
> accurate, I think there is major human dabbling and
alterations.
> All in all it is a wonderful piece of history, and I have gained
many
> wonderful spiritual lessons and been uplifted.
> But I like to think that God gave me a brain and the powers of
reasoning to
> use them, even where the Bible is concerned. After all, I don't
think he
> wrote it!! :)

I agree, I agree, I agree.

BUT.

The Bible does say, "Do not withold discipline from a child; if you
punish him with the rod, he will not die. Punish him with the rod
and save his soul from death." (Proverbs 23:13-14 - NIV)The rod
is definitely indicated as a tool for punishment int his verse. Not
that I support this, just that the Bible does indicate that the rod is
to be used for punishment.

Also, while "Save the rod and spoil the child" is not in the Bible,
Proverbs 13:24 does say that "He who saves the rod hates his
son." Not a far cry different.

H.