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I have gotten the go ahead from the local (conservative Christian) homeschool
support group to advertise our unschooling support group in their newsletter.
They also invited me to have a table at their "opportunity fair" next week.
Each person with a table will get exactly one minute to introduce themselves
and tell people what they represent. People can walk around and get info.
from various vendors and support groups as they wish afterwards.
Any great lines you guys could recommend for being catchy in ONE minute? ack.
I thought I'd just introduce the name of the group but then I need something
really GREAT to explain unschooling. I will have a bunch of articles, books
and info. at the table. But how to get people interested?
I'm a little nervous that I'll get the fundamentalists blasting me...my
brochures say "A Non-religious, eclectic all inclusive group to support the
unschooling family"
Think they'll hang me out to dry? haha
My real hope is to reach those people that feel alone out there and like they
don't fit into this very conservative area.

Ren

Kelli Traaseth

Ren, I don't know you very well yet but from what I've read you've always had good suggestions. I bet you won't have a problem at all, Go Get Them!!
I wish I had the same courage to do that, in my community I don't know of any unschoolers yet. So I would love to post something on the bulletin board at the library or something like that, but I'm feeling still a bit green. We have so many conservative thinkers up here! It's hard enough for me to convince my dh and the rest of my family, that we are doing the right thing, let alone a whole group of people. Maybe in a few months...I have a pretty big mouth so it shouldn't be too difficult for me. I just know I want to have all my answers down to all questions!
Thanks Ren for your advice, keep it up!
Kelli

starsuncloud@... wrote:I have gotten the go ahead from the local (conservative Christian) homeschool
support group to advertise our unschooling support group in their newsletter.
They also invited me to have a table at their "opportunity fair" next week.
Each person with a table will get exactly one minute to introduce themselves
and tell people what they represent. People can walk around and get info.
from various vendors and support groups as they wish afterwards.
Any great lines you guys could recommend for being catchy in ONE minute? ack.
I thought I'd just introduce the name of the group but then I need something
really GREAT to explain unschooling. I will have a bunch of articles, books
and info. at the table. But how to get people interested?
I'm a little nervous that I'll get the fundamentalists blasting me...my
brochures say "A Non-religious, eclectic all inclusive group to support the
unschooling family"
Think they'll hang me out to dry? haha
My real hope is to reach those people that feel alone out there and like they
don't fit into this very conservative area.

Ren

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Maybe you could say "If you're interested in attachment parenting or The
Continuum Concept, the Open Classroom or interest-based learning, come by the
unschooling table for a way to meet families with similar interests."

Instead of them blasting at a one-footed creature, make it a four or
five-legged thing. Harder to shake off its footing.

And if some of them are thinking "Never heard of that stuff," they'll
consider that you know more about (whatever it is) than they do. And for
those who HAVE heard of any of it, you're IN!

Are you going to have flyers about the SC conference with you?

Sandra

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In a message dated 9/4/02 2:03:26 PM, starsuncloud@... writes:

<< I'm a little nervous that I'll get the fundamentalists blasting me... >>

Ah--have little handouts (1/4 page so you don't spend too much?? <g>) with
information about the Christian unschooling book and site. (And maybe you'll
find more than one, but I'm thinking of the really pretty one at
http://www.inspirit.com.au/unschooling/

Betsy

** I thought I'd just introduce the name of the group but then I need
something really GREAT to explain unschooling. I will have a bunch of
articles, books and info. at the table. But how to get people interested?
I'm a little nervous that I'll get the fundamentalists blasting me...my
brochures say "A Non-religious, eclectic all inclusive group to support
the
unschooling family"
Think they'll hang me out to dry? haha**

How about a little sign that says "Swim WITH the current, not against it."

(Just a teaser to get them close enough to the table to start seeing the
other materials.)

Betsy

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In a message dated 9/4/02 4:46:34 PM Central Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:

<< Thanks Ren for your advice, keep it up! >>

Thank you Kelli, that was very sweet!

Ren

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In a message dated 9/4/02 4:46:34 PM Central Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:

<< Maybe you could say "If you're interested in attachment parenting or The
Continuum Concept, the Open Classroom or interest-based learning, come by
the
unschooling table for a way to meet families with similar interests."

Instead of them blasting at a one-footed creature, make it a four or
five-legged thing. Harder to shake off its footing.
>>

I just KNEW you'd have some gem for me! Thank you. One of my main concerns
is that they'd hear unschooling and just shut down without further
questioning or exploration.
I can definitely use this.

Ren

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In a message dated 9/4/02 4:46:34 PM Central Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:

<< Are you going to have flyers about the SC conference with you? >>

Hadn't even thought of bringing them, but I could if you think it would help
anyone.
I'll have a simple flyer about our group and then a synopsis of what
unschooling is for anyone that wants it.

Ren

Mary Bianco

The term "child led learning" can also spark some interest and not turn off
the ones who just don't like the term unschooling.

Mary B.





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In a message dated 9/4/02 8:11:30 PM, ecsamhill@... writes:

<< How about a little sign that says "Swim WITH the current, not against it."
>>

I think baptists see that attitude as sinful.
You should not be having an easy life; life should be hard.
You should not "go with the flow," but strongly against the worldliness of
Satan.

I don't envy anyone being in the midst of a Christian homeschooling revival.
Pat Farenga had half of 2,000 people walk out on him for saying children
should have the right to say "no thanks, I'm not interested" right now or
some such, about learning opportunities. A thousand people stood up and
walked out the door.

It's touchy.

Sandra

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In a message dated 09/05/2002 9:24:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:


> I don't envy anyone being in the midst of a Christian homeschooling revival.
>
> Pat Farenga had half of 2,000 people walk out on him for saying children
> should have the right to say "no thanks, I'm not interested" right now or
> some such, about learning opportunities. A thousand people stood up and
> walked out the door.
>
Sandra,
I attended a Christian homeschool conference a couple of years ago. The talk
of "gentle discipline" interested me. Well, I got to walk out on this one.
The talk was anything but gentle, all about "spare the rod and spoil the
child". The man told stories of his wonderfully behaved and respectful
children. Personally I think they were scared to death. Daddy didn't hesitate
to bring out the belt. He had to use it on his grown son "just to remind him
not to talk back to his wife". "I taught him better".
Besides leaving the talk, I put my complaints in writing. Plus they had one
less participant the next year. I never realized how hypocritical Christians
can be. I'm Christian and certainly don't act that way. Interesting in how
some interpret Christ's teachings.
The other part that turned me off was in the exhibit hall. One of the
exhibitors was selling chore charts that had a place for "appropriate
punishment" for not doing the chore. Spanking with a switch/paddle was a
frequent choice. This lovely little girl was telling me about the chart. She
didn't think anything about the spanking. "It makes me a better person; it's
for my own good". ACK!

Ginny, glad I walked out


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Mary Bianco

>I attended a Christian homeschool conference a couple of years ago. The
>talk
>of "gentle discipline" interested me. Well, I got to walk out on this one.
>The talk was anything but gentle, all about "spare the rod and spoil the
>child". The man told stories of his wonderfully behaved and respectful
>children. Personally I think they were scared to death. Daddy didn't
>hesitate
>to bring out the belt. He had to use it on his grown son "just to remind
>him
>not to talk back to his wife". "I taught him better".
>Besides leaving the talk, I put my complaints in writing. Plus they had one
>less participant the next year. I never realized how hypocritical
>Christians
>can be. I'm Christian and certainly don't act that way. Interesting in how
>some interpret Christ's teachings.



I'm just curious because I guess I haven't run into any of these people. Are
the majority of Christian homeshoolers like this???

Mary B

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In a message dated 9/6/02 11:48:16 AM Central Daylight Time,
mummyone24@... writes:


> I'm just curious because I guess I haven't run into any of these people. Are
> the majority of Christian homeshoolers like this???
>
> Mary B

I don't know that the majority of Christian homeschoolers are rude, or spank
your kids types, (many are. but then many non-Christians are rude and spank
their kids, so it isn't exclusive.) but I do think that the majority of
Christians (or anyone who homeschools for a religious reason) use a
curriculum because they have a philosophy on accountability, and seem to see
unschooling as not being very accountable. And they seem to think that one
reason unschooling isn't right is because you aren't accountable. Then again,
I know of Christian Unschoolers too, so is that an oxymoron? <g>
~Nancy


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on 9/6/02 12:46 PM, Mary Bianco at mummyone24@... wrote:

> I'm just curious because I guess I haven't run into any of these people. Are
> the majority of Christian homeshoolers like this???

Well there are Christian homeschoolers who homeschool for religious reasons
and homeschoolers who are Christian who homeschool for the same reasons that
concern nonChristians.

Homeschooling along with wifely submission, courting, head scarves and so on
and so forth is becoming a sort of strongly urged direction in many
fundamentalists Christian circles to protect the kids from secular/evil
ideas. So there's a greater percentage with that type of thinking among
homeschoolers than outside of homeschooling.

One thing that perhaps make the fundamentalist Christians seem more
prominent is that since they have a common religious and educational goal,
they tend to form strong support groups. But your run of the mill
homeschooler (Christian or non) is just interested in their kids and helping
them learn and there just isn't that same passionate drive and need to form
support groups. We nonfundamentalist Christian homeschoolers may be greater
in number but we're just not banded together!

(Though in some areas of the country the fundamentalist Christians are
overwhelmingly dominant.)

Joyce