Explaining Our Paper Waste
inmdcrew
Well, I guess I better clarify myself. And thanks for all of the
suggestions re: getting cheap paper. We do have tons of typing paper
and leftover computer paper. I come from a teaching family (I'm the
first girl to not only graduate college w/out a teaching degree, but
than choose to homeschool) Try picturing how well that sits.
Anyways, we get lots of leftovers from their classrooms. I think
they use the drop ins as a opportunity to see what we're doing.
What I meant by wasting was drawing an itty bitty lady bug and
getting a new sheet. I just prefer that they realize paper does cost
us in trees and use the other side also. I don't care if they get
frustrated and crumple it up or throw it away. But utilize the whole
space, unless of course they are making a book or magazine.
I realize that for some of you this might be nitpicking but in the
past year I have seen 5 forests timbered near us just for profit. Not
for ill trees. These are areas where nothing new has been planted
and the land isn't for sale. Just harvested. It makes me sick.
Tina
suggestions re: getting cheap paper. We do have tons of typing paper
and leftover computer paper. I come from a teaching family (I'm the
first girl to not only graduate college w/out a teaching degree, but
than choose to homeschool) Try picturing how well that sits.
Anyways, we get lots of leftovers from their classrooms. I think
they use the drop ins as a opportunity to see what we're doing.
What I meant by wasting was drawing an itty bitty lady bug and
getting a new sheet. I just prefer that they realize paper does cost
us in trees and use the other side also. I don't care if they get
frustrated and crumple it up or throw it away. But utilize the whole
space, unless of course they are making a book or magazine.
I realize that for some of you this might be nitpicking but in the
past year I have seen 5 forests timbered near us just for profit. Not
for ill trees. These are areas where nothing new has been planted
and the land isn't for sale. Just harvested. It makes me sick.
Tina
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Dear Tina, I was waiting but didn't see a post for what I do to get paper. I
go to the print shop and ask to have some of what they are throwing away.
It's always alot and if I come during a peticular season the papers are
colored accordingly. The scraps they have are nice weird sizes for little
hands and they are heavy weight.
I also have seen (heard, it's so loud!) timbering for profit. It raped the
soil. DeWes
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go to the print shop and ask to have some of what they are throwing away.
It's always alot and if I come during a peticular season the papers are
colored accordingly. The scraps they have are nice weird sizes for little
hands and they are heavy weight.
I also have seen (heard, it's so loud!) timbering for profit. It raped the
soil. DeWes
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Tia Leschke
>I just have to say something about this. Like many here BC, I believe that
>I also have seen (heard, it's so loud!) timbering for profit. It raped the
>soil. DeWes
the logging companies need to do some things *very* differently than they
have been. I don't believe that clear-cutting is the right way to harvest
lumber, for instance. But I have to wonder about this idea that logging
shouldn't ever be done for profit. Maybe that's not what you and Tina
meant, but unless your house is made of something other than wood, and you
use no paper at all . . .
Tia, living in a province that relies on profits from forestry and whose dh
works in forestry.
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Tia Leschke
leschke@...
On Vancouver Island
Mandie
I imagine you already have....but we recycle our paper. Granted, I try to encourage using as much of the space as possible even before chunking it in the recycling bin, but at least with recycling I feel like I am more a part of the solution than throwing paper away.
Mandie
"Let the beauty we love
Be what we do
There are hundreds of ways
To kneel and kiss the ground."
~Rumi
Mandie
"Let the beauty we love
Be what we do
There are hundreds of ways
To kneel and kiss the ground."
~Rumi
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Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 8:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Explaining Our Paper Waste
Dear Tina, I was waiting but didn't see a post for what I do to get paper. I
go to the print shop and ask to have some of what they are throwing away.
It's always alot and if I come during a peticular season the papers are
colored accordingly. The scraps they have are nice weird sizes for little
hands and they are heavy weight.
I also have seen (heard, it's so loud!) timbering for profit. It raped the
soil. DeWes
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inmdcrew
mandie,
Where we live we are required to recycle. We have several bins that
we set out with the trash each week. The bins are given to you by
the city and are color coded for different trucks to pick up.
My big beef is they won't recycle styrofoam.
Tina
Where we live we are required to recycle. We have several bins that
we set out with the trash each week. The bins are given to you by
the city and are color coded for different trucks to pick up.
My big beef is they won't recycle styrofoam.
Tina
--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., "Mandie" <mandie@m...> wrote:
> I imagine you already have....but we recycle our paper. Granted, I
try to encourage using as much of the space as possible even before
chunking it in the recycling bin, but at least with recycling I feel
like I am more a part of the solution than throwing paper away.
>
> Mandie
> "Let the beauty we love
> Be what we do
> There are hundreds of ways
> To kneel and kiss the ground."
> ~Rumi
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: SeaweedMom7474@a...
> To: Unschooling-dotcom@y...
> Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 8:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Explaining Our Paper Waste
>
>
> Dear Tina, I was waiting but didn't see a post for what I do to
get paper. I
> go to the print shop and ask to have some of what they are
throwing away.
> It's always alot and if I come during a peticular season the
papers are
> colored accordingly. The scraps they have are nice weird sizes
for little
> hands and they are heavy weight.
> I also have seen (heard, it's so loud!) timbering for profit. It
raped the
> soil. DeWes
>
>
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kayb85
What happens if you don't? Would they go through your garbage to
check?
Sheila
check?
Sheila
--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., "inmdcrew" <Hatfield72@H...> wrote:
> mandie,
> Where we live we are required to recycle. We have several bins
that
> we set out with the trash each week. The bins are given to you by
> the city and are color coded for different trucks to pick up.
> My big beef is they won't recycle styrofoam.
> Tina
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., "Mandie" <mandie@m...> wrote:
> > I imagine you already have....but we recycle our paper. Granted,
I
> try to encourage using as much of the space as possible even before
> chunking it in the recycling bin, but at least with recycling I
feel
> like I am more a part of the solution than throwing paper away.
> >
> > Mandie
> > "Let the beauty we love
> > Be what we do
> > There are hundreds of ways
> > To kneel and kiss the ground."
> > ~Rumi
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: SeaweedMom7474@a...
> > To: Unschooling-dotcom@y...
> > Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 8:12 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Explaining Our Paper Waste
> >
> >
> > Dear Tina, I was waiting but didn't see a post for what I do to
> get paper. I
> > go to the print shop and ask to have some of what they are
> throwing away.
> > It's always alot and if I come during a peticular season the
> papers are
> > colored accordingly. The scraps they have are nice weird sizes
> for little
> > hands and they are heavy weight.
> > I also have seen (heard, it's so loud!) timbering for profit.
It
> raped the
> > soil. DeWes
> >
> >
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inmdcrew
Sheila,
You know I don't honestly know. I believe in the concept of
recycling so I haven't tried to not do it. I imagine you would get
notices or maybe your city garbage bill would increase to take care
of the "extras". We are asked to wash out our jars, cans, plastic
containers before we put them in the bin. This I defintely agree
with also because how gross it must be for those who deal with it to
have leftover junk in the jars.
I think they know if you recycle or not b/c you have color coded bins
to place outside. It wouldn't take that long to make notations about
who puts out bins and who doesn't.
We also are supposed to put our grass clippings and tree branches
(yard waste) in brown bags. (special ones mind you). These are taken
to a mulching company outside of town. Leaves are swept to the
street and picked up by a vacuuming truck.
I haven't noticed any one in our addition not adhering to these rules.
Tina (inmdcrew)
You know I don't honestly know. I believe in the concept of
recycling so I haven't tried to not do it. I imagine you would get
notices or maybe your city garbage bill would increase to take care
of the "extras". We are asked to wash out our jars, cans, plastic
containers before we put them in the bin. This I defintely agree
with also because how gross it must be for those who deal with it to
have leftover junk in the jars.
I think they know if you recycle or not b/c you have color coded bins
to place outside. It wouldn't take that long to make notations about
who puts out bins and who doesn't.
We also are supposed to put our grass clippings and tree branches
(yard waste) in brown bags. (special ones mind you). These are taken
to a mulching company outside of town. Leaves are swept to the
street and picked up by a vacuuming truck.
I haven't noticed any one in our addition not adhering to these rules.
Tina (inmdcrew)
--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., "kayb85" <sheran@p...> wrote:
> What happens if you don't? Would they go through your garbage to
> check?
> Sheila
>
> --- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., "inmdcrew" <Hatfield72@H...> wrote:
> > mandie,
> > Where we live we are required to recycle. We have several bins
> that
> > we set out with the trash each week. The bins are given to you
by
> > the city and are color coded for different trucks to pick up.
> > My big beef is they won't recycle styrofoam.
> > Tina
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., "Mandie" <mandie@m...> wrote:
> > > I imagine you already have....but we recycle our paper.
Granted,
> I
> > try to encourage using as much of the space as possible even
before
> > chunking it in the recycling bin, but at least with recycling I
> feel
> > like I am more a part of the solution than throwing paper away.
> > >
> > > Mandie
> > > "Let the beauty we love
> > > Be what we do
> > > There are hundreds of ways
> > > To kneel and kiss the ground."
> > > ~Rumi
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: SeaweedMom7474@a...
> > > To: Unschooling-dotcom@y...
> > > Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 8:12 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Explaining Our Paper Waste
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear Tina, I was waiting but didn't see a post for what I do
to
> > get paper. I
> > > go to the print shop and ask to have some of what they are
> > throwing away.
> > > It's always alot and if I come during a peticular season the
> > papers are
> > > colored accordingly. The scraps they have are nice weird
sizes
> > for little
> > > hands and they are heavy weight.
> > > I also have seen (heard, it's so loud!) timbering for profit.
> It
> > raped the
> > > soil. DeWes
> > >
> > >
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kayb85
I was just curious. I've never heard of mandatory recycling. I envy
you with curbside recycling. We drive at least 20 minutes to the
nearest recycling drop off, and when that's full we have to drive 15
minutes farther. We usually just take the recycling along with us on
our homeopathy appointments, which is a 50 minute drive but the bins
are huge and never overflowing. Actually there is curbside recycling
here but I think it's only clear glass and metal cans--so for us it's
not worth the bother of trying to remember to put it out when they
don't take it all anyway. Easier to just load it up and take it
ourselves once or twice a month.
Sheila
you with curbside recycling. We drive at least 20 minutes to the
nearest recycling drop off, and when that's full we have to drive 15
minutes farther. We usually just take the recycling along with us on
our homeopathy appointments, which is a 50 minute drive but the bins
are huge and never overflowing. Actually there is curbside recycling
here but I think it's only clear glass and metal cans--so for us it's
not worth the bother of trying to remember to put it out when they
don't take it all anyway. Easier to just load it up and take it
ourselves once or twice a month.
Sheila
--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., "inmdcrew" <Hatfield72@H...> wrote:
> Sheila,
>
> You know I don't honestly know. I believe in the concept of
> recycling so I haven't tried to not do it. I imagine you would get
> notices or maybe your city garbage bill would increase to take care
> of the "extras". We are asked to wash out our jars, cans, plastic
> containers before we put them in the bin. This I defintely agree
> with also because how gross it must be for those who deal with it
to
> have leftover junk in the jars.
>
> I think they know if you recycle or not b/c you have color coded
bins
> to place outside. It wouldn't take that long to make notations
about
> who puts out bins and who doesn't.
>
> We also are supposed to put our grass clippings and tree branches
> (yard waste) in brown bags. (special ones mind you). These are
taken
> to a mulching company outside of town. Leaves are swept to the
> street and picked up by a vacuuming truck.
>
> I haven't noticed any one in our addition not adhering to these
rules.
>
> Tina (inmdcrew)
>
>
>
>
> --- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., "kayb85" <sheran@p...> wrote:
> > What happens if you don't? Would they go through your garbage to
> > check?
> > Sheila
> >
> > --- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., "inmdcrew" <Hatfield72@H...>
wrote:
> > > mandie,
> > > Where we live we are required to recycle. We have several bins
> > that
> > > we set out with the trash each week. The bins are given to you
> by
> > > the city and are color coded for different trucks to pick up.
> > > My big beef is they won't recycle styrofoam.
> > > Tina
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., "Mandie" <mandie@m...> wrote:
> > > > I imagine you already have....but we recycle our paper.
> Granted,
> > I
> > > try to encourage using as much of the space as possible even
> before
> > > chunking it in the recycling bin, but at least with recycling I
> > feel
> > > like I am more a part of the solution than throwing paper
away.
> > > >
> > > > Mandie
> > > > "Let the beauty we love
> > > > Be what we do
> > > > There are hundreds of ways
> > > > To kneel and kiss the ground."
> > > > ~Rumi
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: SeaweedMom7474@a...
> > > > To: Unschooling-dotcom@y...
> > > > Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 8:12 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Explaining Our Paper Waste
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dear Tina, I was waiting but didn't see a post for what I
do
> to
> > > get paper. I
> > > > go to the print shop and ask to have some of what they are
> > > throwing away.
> > > > It's always alot and if I come during a peticular season
the
> > > papers are
> > > > colored accordingly. The scraps they have are nice weird
> sizes
> > > for little
> > > > hands and they are heavy weight.
> > > > I also have seen (heard, it's so loud!) timbering for
profit.
> > It
> > > raped the
> > > > soil. DeWes
> > > >
> > > >
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In a message dated 8/17/02 5:25:08 AM, Hatfield72@... writes:
<< What I meant by wasting was drawing an itty bitty lady bug and
getting a new sheet. >>
Then you pick up the itty bitty lady bug paper and cut it into strips for
grocery lists, or use it for your own scrap paper later.
The thing with art is that maybe the big white space was all that made the
lady bug itty bitty. Silence is part of music. Requiring an artist to fill
up all the space is dictating how art should be.
If a child has five ounces of sculpy and wants to make a one-ounce sculpture
is that wasting sculpy?
I think there's a philosophical and artistic consideration that guilt about
forests is messing with in a bad way.
Paper can be used as coasters on wood furniture, and things with drawings can
be saved and used for paintings later, or put under glue projects, or
otherwise reused.
Trees are more renewable than a child's self-esteem and artistic joy are.
Sandra
<< What I meant by wasting was drawing an itty bitty lady bug and
getting a new sheet. >>
Then you pick up the itty bitty lady bug paper and cut it into strips for
grocery lists, or use it for your own scrap paper later.
The thing with art is that maybe the big white space was all that made the
lady bug itty bitty. Silence is part of music. Requiring an artist to fill
up all the space is dictating how art should be.
If a child has five ounces of sculpy and wants to make a one-ounce sculpture
is that wasting sculpy?
I think there's a philosophical and artistic consideration that guilt about
forests is messing with in a bad way.
Paper can be used as coasters on wood furniture, and things with drawings can
be saved and used for paintings later, or put under glue projects, or
otherwise reused.
Trees are more renewable than a child's self-esteem and artistic joy are.
Sandra
zenmomma *
>>The thing with art is that maybe the big white space was all that made theThe space between. We try to use that concept when decorating or creating
>>lady bug itty bitty.>>
spaces for things in our home. It's a very conscious part of art in Japan.
>>Paper can be used as coasters on wood furniture, and things with drawingsCasey made a craft in a class last week that would be perfect for those
>>can be saved and used for paintings later, or put under glue projects, or
>>otherwise reused.>>
little ladybugs. They used those clear glass "stones" that you get in the
floral dept. of craft stores. (Sometimes people put them in the botton of
vases to hold up artificial flowers.) Anyway, they glued little pictures on
paper and then used white glue to stick them under the clear stones. The
glue dries clear and the stones magnify the tiny little picture. They glued
magnets on and ta-da! we have new fridge magnets.
>>Trees are more renewable than a child's self-esteem and artistic joyNot that anyone who thinks about not wasting paper is out to suck their
>>are.>>
child's self-esteem or artistic joy. But it's good to rethink some strongly
held notions in a slightly altered unschooling light.
Life is good.
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In a message dated 8/20/02 12:05:20 PM, zenmomma@... writes:
<< They used those clear glass "stones" that you get in the
floral dept. of craft stores. (Sometimes people put them in the botton of
vases to hold up artificial flowers.) >>
"Damage counters."
My husband and I called them "Pente pieces" for years because we first saw
them in a Pente game we bought in the 1970s. But to our gaming kids, they
are "damage counters."
Sandra
<< They used those clear glass "stones" that you get in the
floral dept. of craft stores. (Sometimes people put them in the botton of
vases to hold up artificial flowers.) >>
"Damage counters."
My husband and I called them "Pente pieces" for years because we first saw
them in a Pente game we bought in the 1970s. But to our gaming kids, they
are "damage counters."
Sandra
Jane
<<My husband and I called them "Pente pieces" for years because we first
saw
<<them in a Pente game we bought in the 1970s. But to our gaming kids,
they
<<are "damage counters."
Too funny! Same thing here! I love Pente and still have a board my mom
wood burned for me. :-) Jane
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Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 3:46 PM
To: [email protected]
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In a message dated 8/20/02 12:05:20 PM, zenmomma@... writes:
<< They used those clear glass "stones" that you get in the
floral dept. of craft stores. (Sometimes people put them in the botton
of
vases to hold up artificial flowers.) >>
"Damage counters."
My husband and I called them "Pente pieces" for years because we first
saw
them in a Pente game we bought in the 1970s. But to our gaming kids,
they
are "damage counters."
Sandra
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<<them in a Pente game we bought in the 1970s. But to our gaming kids,
they
<<are "damage counters."
Too funny! Same thing here! I love Pente and still have a board my mom
wood burned for me. :-) Jane
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In a message dated 8/20/02 12:05:20 PM, zenmomma@... writes:
<< They used those clear glass "stones" that you get in the
floral dept. of craft stores. (Sometimes people put them in the botton
of
vases to hold up artificial flowers.) >>
"Damage counters."
My husband and I called them "Pente pieces" for years because we first
saw
them in a Pente game we bought in the 1970s. But to our gaming kids,
they
are "damage counters."
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Tia Leschke
>I know people who write letters to family on the backs of kids'
>
>Paper can be used as coasters on wood furniture, and things with drawings can
>be saved and used for paintings later, or put under glue projects, or
>otherwise reused.
pictures. The family members get two treats instead of one, but that's for
people who still use snail mail. <g> Other people use them as wrapping paper.
Tia
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.
Eleanor Roosevelt
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Tia Leschke
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On Vancouver Island