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In a message dated 8/15/02 10:30:49 AM, rsale515@... writes:
<< All right: The racist and sexist white European male part of the country
which was expropriated from the natives and built on the backs of slaves was
already Christian.
<<How's that? : ) >>
Still not true, but you're getting warmer!! <g>
One of my favorite stupid parts of the current (add your own adjectives here)
Christian history of the U.S. for their own purposes is that before Europeans
came to north America the natives all hated each other and warred all the
time, scalping and being cannibals and sodomizing buffalos (OR whatever ugly
picture they can paint as they explain patiently to children that only
liberal humanists can claim that Indians were anything but ignorant savages).
THEN, lucky for them, Christianity came and some of them, the lucky ones,
accepted Jesus. And THOSE few and only those few will be in heaven, and the
rest, well....
Sandra
<< All right: The racist and sexist white European male part of the country
which was expropriated from the natives and built on the backs of slaves was
already Christian.
<<How's that? : ) >>
Still not true, but you're getting warmer!! <g>
One of my favorite stupid parts of the current (add your own adjectives here)
Christian history of the U.S. for their own purposes is that before Europeans
came to north America the natives all hated each other and warred all the
time, scalping and being cannibals and sodomizing buffalos (OR whatever ugly
picture they can paint as they explain patiently to children that only
liberal humanists can claim that Indians were anything but ignorant savages).
THEN, lucky for them, Christianity came and some of them, the lucky ones,
accepted Jesus. And THOSE few and only those few will be in heaven, and the
rest, well....
Sandra
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In a message dated 8/15/2002 12:28:26 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:
This isn't history, it is moronic imagination; ideas by people who don't give
a damn for truth or Christ. That they proclaim such things in the name of
Christ is beside the point. Stop hanging out with them if they piss you off
so much; they piss me off too. I mean, if you go to them to study modern
methods of sociopathy, go ahead. But don't go to them for Christianity or
history.
Bob
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SandraDodd@... writes:
> One of my favorite stupid parts of the current (add your own adjectivesSandra,
> here)
> Christian history of the U.S. for their own purposes is that before
> Europeans
> came to north America the natives all hated each other and warred all the
> time, scalping and being cannibals and sodomizing buffalos
This isn't history, it is moronic imagination; ideas by people who don't give
a damn for truth or Christ. That they proclaim such things in the name of
Christ is beside the point. Stop hanging out with them if they piss you off
so much; they piss me off too. I mean, if you go to them to study modern
methods of sociopathy, go ahead. But don't go to them for Christianity or
history.
Bob
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In a message dated 8/15/02 1:45:11 PM, rsale515@... writes:
<< This isn't history, it is moronic imagination; ideas by people who don't
give
a damn for truth or Christ. That they proclaim such things in the name of
Christ is beside the point. >>
How can you say those two things in consecutive sentences?
CHRISTIANS are teaching homeschooled Christian children that view of U.S.
history. It's part and parcel of the stuff you're saying here this week.
<<Stop hanging out with them if they piss you off
so much; they piss me off too.>>
HANGING OUT with them?
I don't "hang out" with them, I'm just associated with them by people who
hear "homeschooling" and think "ignorant, separatist, gun-toting Christian."
HSLDA will defend them, but not me.
<< I mean, if you go to them to study modern
methods of sociopathy, go ahead. But don't go to them for Christianity or
history.>>
Where else will their children go for Christianity or history without risking
eternity in hell?
Sandra
<< This isn't history, it is moronic imagination; ideas by people who don't
give
a damn for truth or Christ. That they proclaim such things in the name of
Christ is beside the point. >>
How can you say those two things in consecutive sentences?
CHRISTIANS are teaching homeschooled Christian children that view of U.S.
history. It's part and parcel of the stuff you're saying here this week.
<<Stop hanging out with them if they piss you off
so much; they piss me off too.>>
HANGING OUT with them?
I don't "hang out" with them, I'm just associated with them by people who
hear "homeschooling" and think "ignorant, separatist, gun-toting Christian."
HSLDA will defend them, but not me.
<< I mean, if you go to them to study modern
methods of sociopathy, go ahead. But don't go to them for Christianity or
history.>>
Where else will their children go for Christianity or history without risking
eternity in hell?
Sandra
kayb85
Yeah, and I've read that when Pocohontas asked the white women about
how to follow their God, the first thing they told her was that she
had to stop wearing her heathen clothes and dress like them. That is
sick and SO unchristian.
Thankfully, Pocohontas found Christ in spite of them.
Sheila
how to follow their God, the first thing they told her was that she
had to stop wearing her heathen clothes and dress like them. That is
sick and SO unchristian.
Thankfully, Pocohontas found Christ in spite of them.
Sheila
--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., rsale515@c... wrote:
> In a message dated 8/15/2002 12:28:26 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> SandraDodd@a... writes:
> > One of my favorite stupid parts of the current (add your own
adjectives
> > here)
> > Christian history of the U.S. for their own purposes is that
before
> > Europeans
> > came to north America the natives all hated each other and warred
all the
> > time, scalping and being cannibals and sodomizing buffalos
>
> Sandra,
>
> This isn't history, it is moronic imagination; ideas by people who
don't give
> a damn for truth or Christ. That they proclaim such things in the
name of
> Christ is beside the point. Stop hanging out with them if they piss
you off
> so much; they piss me off too. I mean, if you go to them to study
modern
> methods of sociopathy, go ahead. But don't go to them for
Christianity or
> history.
>
> Bob
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Fetteroll
on 8/15/02 3:44 PM, rsale515@... at rsale515@... wrote:
Christ so they can know the truth and be armed against the evil humanists
who would try to fill their heads full of lies.
(Anyone's kids ever gotten a tract about the evils of Halloween instead of
candy while out trick or treating?)
same book and reached different conclusions.
They do see the pathway that God wants them to walk as very narrow. It's
probably an outgrowth of the belief that the Bible is infallible. If the
Bible is literally true then there can't be more than one legitimate
interpretation. And the one who speaks with the most authority is the one
who obviously has managed to hit the nail on the head. (Just my guess.)
If you don't see their viewpoint as legitimate :::shrug::: It doesn't change
the fact that they do see it as legitimate.
I think it would help to read what's being written about the Christian
fundamentalist homeschoolers as *not* being presumed to represent any other
Christians way of viewing Christ or Christianity. It's just the far end of
the spectrum and from their viewpoint just as legitimate (or more actually!)
than any other view.
Joyce
> This isn't history, it is moronic imagination;And being taught to loads of good Christian homeschooled kids in the name of
Christ so they can know the truth and be armed against the evil humanists
who would try to fill their heads full of lies.
(Anyone's kids ever gotten a tract about the evils of Halloween instead of
candy while out trick or treating?)
> ideas by people who don't giveIn your opinion. They love Christ as much as you do. They've begun with the
> a damn for truth or Christ.
same book and reached different conclusions.
They do see the pathway that God wants them to walk as very narrow. It's
probably an outgrowth of the belief that the Bible is infallible. If the
Bible is literally true then there can't be more than one legitimate
interpretation. And the one who speaks with the most authority is the one
who obviously has managed to hit the nail on the head. (Just my guess.)
If you don't see their viewpoint as legitimate :::shrug::: It doesn't change
the fact that they do see it as legitimate.
I think it would help to read what's being written about the Christian
fundamentalist homeschoolers as *not* being presumed to represent any other
Christians way of viewing Christ or Christianity. It's just the far end of
the spectrum and from their viewpoint just as legitimate (or more actually!)
than any other view.
Joyce