Luz Shosie and Ned Vare

Ned asks: Is this (the following) what the list is about?

>
> On Sat, 10 Aug 2002 23:48:48
> Dnowens wrote:
>> Recently I was asked by a friend to watch his two children. His daughter is
>> 16 months, doesn't walk, talk and is obviously still in diapers. (she is
>> slightly developmentally delayed) His son is 5 months. I have wavered back
>> and forth. (His wife met him at the door one day last week, handed the baby
>> to him, said "I need a break," and he hasn't seen her since.) I used to watch
>> my bestfriend's two children, her daughter is just 3 months younger than Jack
>> and her little boy is 22 months younger than her daughter. At one time I had
>> my two nursing, her two drinking the warmed up breast milk she stored in my
>> freezer, three in diapers and one in the process of potty training. I never
>> thought twice about loading them all up, going to the store or the park, or
>> carting them all around the library. It never occurred to me that life could
>> be any different with two toddlers or four. Not taking a shower until lunch
>> was over and everyone was asleep was standard for me. Board books, water
>> mats, finger paints, play-dough in the carpet, upchuck in my hair, I was
>> queen of my domain! I still had time to make a hearty soup and fresh bread
>> for all of us to enjoy at the end of the day, and my toilets sparkled. Why
>> now does the prospect of two more babies scare me? Now I can't imagine
>> including two little ones in all the activities my two are involved in. My
>> bestfriends kids are my kids, mine are hers. And although she and I don't see
>> eye to eye on the unschooling, we still support everything each other does. I
>> can't see myself taking my two and two babies to see her daughter dance, or
>> Moly act, or Jack to the skateboard park. Am I being selfish? I don't see
>> myself devoting large amounts of time to two new children and still giving
>> all the time I give now to my own kids. I feel like something would have to
>> give. How do those of you who still have babies at home find the time to *be*
>> and *do* with your older ones? I guess my problem is I'm not quite the queen
>> of my domain that I used to be. My bread doesn't get baked as often as it
>> used too, I find that cleaning the bathroom once a week with a wipe down
>> sometime, gets it *almost* as good as cleaning it three times a week used to
>> get it. I so badly want to say, "Yes, I'll watch your kids, no problem!" but,
>> my brain says NOOOOO!!!! What to do? And I feel bad.
>> ~Nancy


Looks like we need a PRE - UNSCHOOLING list
Things are sounding desperate in the suburbs, these days.

Ned Vare

Fetteroll

on 8/12/02 4:52 PM, Luz Shosie and Ned Vare at nedvare@... wrote:

> Ned asks: Is this (the following) what the list is about?

Yes. The list is about unschooling which is about life. Sometimes that life
includes kids and babies! And cleaning toilets. And sleeping arrangements.
And Scholastic Warehouse sales. And Buffy the Vampire Slayer. And Christian
fundamentalists. And potty training. And what to do about disaproving
husbands. And ...

> Looks like we need a PRE - UNSCHOOLING list
> Things are sounding desperate in the suburbs, these days.

The list has been like this *way* before you joined Ned. Isn't it a tad rude
to join a list and then criticize it for being what works for the list
members?

Joyce

Bill and Diane

There is a pre-unschooling list on Yahoo, but it's all full of
curricula, plans and schedules. I'm planning to unsub, but haven't
gotten around to it.

:-) Diane

>Looks like we need a PRE - UNSCHOOLING list
>Things are sounding desperate in the suburbs, these days.
>

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<<Looks like we need a PRE - UNSCHOOLING list
Things are sounding desperate in the suburbs, these days.

Ned Vare>>


Mean. Just simply mean.
~Elissa Cleaveland
"It is nothing short of a miracle that the modern methods of instruction
have
not yet entirely strangled the holy curiosity of inquiry." A. Einstein