Jeff & Kate Kerr

Year round school is back in session in my neighborhood and the first
(of many, I can guarantee that) group of kids came around today selling
things for their school (I know it was for the school, as opposed to
little league or anything like that because I always ask). I
steadfastly refuse to buy anything from a child (or adult for that
matter) that goes to support a school, don't they have enough of our
paycheck? And I don't like the idea of the kids going from door to door
without adult supervision selling things, as far as I'm concerned it's
just asking for trouble. I suppose I should have my own fundraiser for
our homeschool. Maybe I should pull the lemonade stand out.
How do people on this list handle things like this, my husband says that
I'm too harsh on the kids. I'm not harsh with the people at the door, I
just have a principle that I'm sticking to by refusing to buy school
related junk.
Any thoughts?

Kate

David and Bonnie Altman

Since the public schools are using our tax dollars to "educate" children,
then there shouldn't be fundraisers. I would buy from kids selling for
private schools.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff & Kate Kerr [SMTP:windystreet@...]
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 11:07 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] school fund raisers

Year round school is back in session in my neighborhood and the first
(of many, I can guarantee that) group of kids came around today selling
things for their school (I know it was for the school, as opposed to
little league or anything like that because I always ask). I
steadfastly refuse to buy anything from a child (or adult for that
matter) that goes to support a school, don't they have enough of our
paycheck? And I don't like the idea of the kids going from door to door
without adult supervision selling things, as far as I'm concerned it's
just asking for trouble. I suppose I should have my own fundraiser for
our homeschool. Maybe I should pull the lemonade stand out.
How do people on this list handle things like this, my husband says that
I'm too harsh on the kids. I'm not harsh with the people at the door, I
just have a principle that I'm sticking to by refusing to buy school
related junk.
Any thoughts?

Kate



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dabejorysmom

WE seriously considered having a fund raiser for our "school", I mean
homeschool. I talked to the leaders of our homeschool group back in
NM, but they said they had never had a fund raiser, and didn't want
to start now.

Suzanna, happily transplanted in MS

--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., Jeff & Kate Kerr <windystreet@e...>
wrote:
> Year round school is back in session in my neighborhood and the
first
> (of many, I can guarantee that) group of kids came around today
selling
> things for their school (I know it was for the school, as opposed to
> little league or anything like that because I always ask). I
> steadfastly refuse to buy anything from a child (or adult for that
> matter) that goes to support a school, don't they have enough of our
> paycheck? And I don't like the idea of the kids going from door to
door
> without adult supervision selling things, as far as I'm concerned
it's
> just asking for trouble. I suppose I should have my own fundraiser
for
> our homeschool. Maybe I should pull the lemonade stand out.
> How do people on this list handle things like this, my husband says
that
> I'm too harsh on the kids. I'm not harsh with the people at the
door, I
> just have a principle that I'm sticking to by refusing to buy school
> related junk.
> Any thoughts?
>
> Kate

Sweets

In the midst of all this debate I have a simple question....... Where in MS
are you Suzanna??? :)

Kendra
in Gulfport
----- Original Message -----
From: "dabejorysmom" <suzanna.n@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 11:26 PM
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re: school fund raisers


> WE seriously considered having a fund raiser for our "school", I mean
> homeschool. I talked to the leaders of our homeschool group back in
> NM, but they said they had never had a fund raiser, and didn't want
> to start now.
>
> Suzanna, happily transplanted in MS
>
> --- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., Jeff & Kate Kerr <windystreet@e...>
> wrote:
> > Year round school is back in session in my neighborhood and the
> first
> > (of many, I can guarantee that) group of kids came around today
> selling
> > things for their school (I know it was for the school, as opposed to
> > little league or anything like that because I always ask). I
> > steadfastly refuse to buy anything from a child (or adult for that
> > matter) that goes to support a school, don't they have enough of our
> > paycheck? And I don't like the idea of the kids going from door to
> door
> > without adult supervision selling things, as far as I'm concerned
> it's
> > just asking for trouble. I suppose I should have my own fundraiser
> for
> > our homeschool. Maybe I should pull the lemonade stand out.
> > How do people on this list handle things like this, my husband says
> that
> > I'm too harsh on the kids. I'm not harsh with the people at the
> door, I
> > just have a principle that I'm sticking to by refusing to buy school
> > related junk.
> > Any thoughts?
> >
> > Kate
>
>
>
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Call the school directly and tell them your concerns. Particularly about
unsupervised door to door sales.
When the kids in the neighborhood knock, ask THEM if they realize how much
risk they are putting themselves into.
~Elissa Cleaveland
"It is nothing short of a miracle that the modern methods of instruction
have
not yet entirely strangled the holy curiosity of inquiry." A. Einstein

dabejorysmom

We just transferred to Columbus AFB, MS just outside of Columbus, MS.
We like it here way better than Cannon AFB near Clovis, NM where we
just moved from.

-Suzanna

--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., "Sweets" <sweety9@b...> wrote:
> In the midst of all this debate I have a simple question.......
Where in MS
> are you Suzanna??? :)
>
> Kendra
> in Gulfport
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "dabejorysmom" <suzanna.n@j...>
> To: <Unschooling-dotcom@y...>
> Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 11:26 PM
> Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re: school fund raisers
>
>
> > WE seriously considered having a fund raiser for our "school", I
mean
> > homeschool. I talked to the leaders of our homeschool group back
in
> > NM, but they said they had never had a fund raiser, and didn't
want
> > to start now.
> >
> > Suzanna, happily transplanted in MS
> >
> > --- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., Jeff & Kate Kerr
<windystreet@e...>
> > wrote:
> > > Year round school is back in session in my neighborhood and the
> > first
> > > (of many, I can guarantee that) group of kids came around today
> > selling
> > > things for their school (I know it was for the school, as
opposed to
> > > little league or anything like that because I always ask). I
> > > steadfastly refuse to buy anything from a child (or adult for
that
> > > matter) that goes to support a school, don't they have enough
of our
> > > paycheck? And I don't like the idea of the kids going from
door to
> > door
> > > without adult supervision selling things, as far as I'm
concerned
> > it's
> > > just asking for trouble. I suppose I should have my own
fundraiser
> > for
> > > our homeschool. Maybe I should pull the lemonade stand out.
> > > How do people on this list handle things like this, my husband
says
> > that
> > > I'm too harsh on the kids. I'm not harsh with the people at the
> > door, I
> > > just have a principle that I'm sticking to by refusing to buy
school
> > > related junk.
> > > Any thoughts?
> > >
> > > Kate
> >
> >
> >
> > If you have questions, concerns or problems with this list,
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> the Moderator, Joyce Fetteroll, at fetteroll@e...
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> >
> >

zenmomma *

>>I suppose I should have my own fundraiser for our homeschool. Maybe I
>>should pull the lemonade stand out.>>

We've done this, for special trips and such. We're very up front about where
the proceeds are going. Of course I don't think we earned very much either.
LOL But as unschoolers, the process of setting up and running the lemonade
stand or garage sale was part of the fun and learning. :o)

>>How do people on this list handle things like this, my husband says that
>>I'm too harsh on the kids. I'm not harsh with the people at the door, I
>>just have a principle that I'm sticking to by refusing to buy school
>>related junk.
Any thoughts?>>

I don't buy stuff for school fundraisers. I just say "no thanks" or "not
today, thanks". I don't think that's harsh. Besides homeschooling
principles, I truly don't have the money to spend on the overpriced crap
they come around with.

Life is good.
~Mary


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Jamie Lemon

Last year Samantha and her best friend Sarah wanted to raise money for a
birthday party for Sarah's little brother. They made a ton of pictures,
bracelets, and other crafts. They sold them out in our front yard along
with pokemon cards and comic books. In one week those girls raised almost
$50 They used the money to buy party favors and threw a party right before
the end of the summer (when Sarah had to go back to her Dad's in Arizona) I
was so proud of them.

Zan

----- Original Message -----
From: zenmomma *
>>I suppose I should have my own fundraiser for our homeschool. Maybe I
>>should pull the lemonade stand out.>>

We've done this, for special trips and such. We're very up front about where
the proceeds are going. Of course I don't think we earned very much either.
LOL But as unschoolers, the process of setting up and running the lemonade
stand or garage sale was part of the fun and learning. :o)

Life is good.
~Mary>>>>>>>>>>>>>

priss_adams

--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., Jeff & Kate Kerr <windystreet@e...>
wrote:
> How do people on this list handle things like this, my husband
says that
> I'm too harsh on the kids. I'm not harsh with the people at the
door, I
> just have a principle that I'm sticking to by refusing to buy school
> related junk.
> Any thoughts?
>
> Kate

I buy from every child that asks me to if I possibly can.

Priss

KT

>
>
>I suppose I should have my own fundraiser for our homeschool. Maybe I
>>>should pull the lemonade stand out.>>
>
>
>We've done this, for special trips and such. We're very up front about where
>the proceeds are going. Of course I don't think we earned very much either.
>LOL But as unschoolers, the process of setting up and running the lemonade
>stand or garage sale was part of the fun and learning. :o)
>
There was a thread in the AOL hsing forum recently where I got skewered
for saying I would feel defrauded by someone who tried to sell me
something for their "school fundraiser" when it was really for their
"home school".

These folks were talking about using their home school's name (which in
some states is a real thing) and not telling anyone that the money was
going directly into the family budget.

I think they were out of line, and should be more up-front about where
the money was going. We have lemonade stands and sell bird houses,
etc., but we never made any bones about what it was going to be used for
(drum sets, bicycles, etc.). I was shocked that I was the lone minority
opinion on a board populated by people who claimed to be "homeschooling
for religious reasons".

Tuck

zenmomma *

>>Last year Samantha and her best friend Sarah wanted to raise money for a
>>birthday party for Sarah's little brother. They made a ton of pictures,
>>bracelets, and other crafts. They sold them out in our front yard along
>>with pokemon cards and comic books. In one week those girls raised almost
>>$50 They used the money to buy party favors and threw a party right
>>before the end of the summer (when Sarah had to go back to her Dad's in
>>Arizona) I was so proud of them.>>

Very sweet!! I'll bet Sarah's little brother felt very special. And $50!
Wow. Right now as I type Casey and a friend are preparing to have a garage
sale to raise money for the homeless shelter and animal shelter. They're
selling stuff gathered from Casey's room and making craft kits to sell as
well. I can't imagine that they'll find $50 worth of stuff to sell.

Life is good.
~Mary


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Jamie Lemon

That is soooo good of those kids to be so giving of their time and energies.
Craft kits is an excellent idea!

Zan

----- Original Message -----
From: "zenmomma *" <zenmomma@...>

> Very sweet!! I'll bet Sarah's little brother felt very special. And $50!
> Wow. Right now as I type Casey and a friend are preparing to have a garage
> sale to raise money for the homeless shelter and animal shelter. They're
> selling stuff gathered from Casey's room and making craft kits to sell as
> well. I can't imagine that they'll find $50 worth of stuff to sell.
>
> Life is good.
> ~Mary

zenmomma *

>>That is soooo good of those kids to be so giving of their time and
>>energies.
Craft kits is an excellent idea!>>

Yes I like the craft kit idea too. They have bead kits with beads and cord.
They also have God's Eye kits. Those include 2 popsicle sticks, yarn and
directions I printed off the internet. So easy and yet maybe it'll inspire
some other kid who buys it to get creative.

Life is good.
~Mary

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Fetteroll

on 8/9/02 12:06 AM, Jeff & Kate Kerr at windystreet@... wrote:

> How do people on this list handle things like this

I buy the $1 chocolate bars and the occasional raffle ticket and say no
thanks to everything else. So I guess I approach it as a consumer rather
than as a charitable donation. I remember selling stuff as a middle schooler
once -- magazine subscriptions :-P -- and being told no was just part of the
process.

As for telling the kids it's dangerous, that will elicit a "Who the hell are
you?" attitude even if they don't express it. I think it would do more good
to talk to the principal or school board.

Joyce

KT

>
>
>
>I buy the $1 chocolate bars and the occasional raffle ticket and say no
>thanks to everything else. So I guess I approach it as a consumer rather
>than as a charitable donation. I remember selling stuff as a middle schooler
>once -- magazine subscriptions [:-P] -- and being told no was just part of the
>process.
>

One of our Camp Fire Candy mottos is SWSWSW.

Some Will. Some Won't. So What?

Tuck


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Jeff & Kate Kerr

As for telling the kids it's dangerous, that will elicit a "Who the hell
are
you?" attitude even if they don't express it. I think it would do more
good
to talk to the principal or school board.
Joyce

Kate says:
I actually don't tell the kids it's dangerous, that's just how I feel
about it. I wouldn't let my children do it, other parents can, it's
their choice.
I disagree with buying the stuff because I don't like that, even with
all the money the schools get from our taxes, they send the kids out to
raise more. It's the sending of the kids out I don't like. They can't
hold a fundraising event, run by adults, once or twice a year? They
need to put this on the backs of the children (and their parents who
seem to end up doing quite a bit of the selling)?
That's my beef.
This came up because I was trying to explain to my 8 year old why we
aren't buying the stuff from our neighbor. I'm pretty sure he got it.
Kate