The O'Donnells

In light of a recent conversation about unschooling as a Christian here is
a neat article amidst the Eclectic Homeschool Newsletter - Check it out!

Laraine

>Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 19:58:54 -0500
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>Eclectic Homeschool Online Update October 16, 1999
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>I'd like to start off this newsletter by introducing myself! My name is
>Lisa Conner and I have taken the opportunity to help your EHO Leader,
>Bev Krueger by taking on the task of writing the newsletter that comes
>to you twice each month. ::::smiling, waving "hello"::::: Just to let
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>years now. We don't use any one specific curriculum or method to
>accomplish this task, but use what works for each child at that
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>This is not the first online newsletter that I've written :-) Some of
>you may recognize my name and style from AOL's Homeschool Connection
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>say that I love to hear from you readers!! Please feel free to send
>suggestions, websites, and articles that we might consider them for
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>North Carolina has taken quite a beating as we all know. Among the
>hardest hit are hundreds of homeschooling families who need your help.
>Imagine what it would be like if you lost all your homeschooling
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>Relief Effort" in this edition of EHO. http://eho.org/
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>In our Features this update we have a "Dinosaur Art Project" by Sharon
>Jeffus of Visual Manna. You won't want to miss that!! Great for
>expanding any dinosaur unit study you might be doing.
>http://eho.org/features/dinosaur.htm
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>In our How to Homeschool Department you'll find a wonderful article on
>"Christian Unschooling" by Jeanne Musfeldt. We are a wonderful mix of
>unschooling and eclectic in our home. Jeanne describes unschooling in a
>very easy to understand manner! As a matter of fact, you might be
>unschooling and not even realize it!! Thanks Jeanne!
>http://eho.org/howtodept.htm
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Sarah Carothers

<<I'm looking for something that will encourage me to continue to be a
totally radical unschooler. >>
Grace Lewellyn's books:
Teenage Liberation Handbook and
Real Lives: Eleven Teenagers Who Don't Go to School
(I prefer Real Lives over Liberation).
Sarah

----- Original Message -----
From: kayb85
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 1:31 AM
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re: Christian Unschooling



> So have you tried Mary Griffith's "The Unschooler's Handbook?"
> http://www.primapublishing.com/books/book/901/
>
> Helen, blithely undaunted <g>

Lol! I did have that book once upon a time but I lent it out about a
year ago and never got it back. I read it back in the days when I
described myself as "almost an unschooler" so I'm not sure if my take
on it would be the same now as it was then. Back then I would have
described it as "ok for someone who needs to get over being a school-
at-homer". I would like to re-read it. I'll have to give the
person to whom I lent the book a call and see if she still knows
where it is.

I'm 3/4 of the way through How Children Learn by John Holt. I also
got The Continuum concept but my daughter is giving me that for
Christmas and she has it pretty well wrapped. I'll have to wait
until after Christmas to read that one. Any other recommendations?
I'm looking for something that will encourage me to continue to be a
totally radical unschooler.


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groundhoggirl

I know there's a new book called "Christian Unschooling" - Don't know
the author
"Learning All the Time" by John Holt is my all-time favorite.
Alfie Kohn's "Punished by Rewards" is great.
"Summerhill" by A. S. Neill is very good.
"Dumbing Us Down" by John Taylor Gatto is fabulous
Read all the "Growing Without Schooling" magazines you can get your
hands on.
"Child's Work" was very good. Don't remember the author.
"I Learn Better By Teaching Myself" Don't remember author
"The Hurried Child" by David Elkind

Not all of these focus exclusively on unschooling, but I found them all
very interesting and helpful. You might want to check out John Holt's
bookstore also. Do a search of Growing Without Schooling. I was very
saddened to hear about the discontinuation of their publication. Of all
the newspapers, periodicals, magazines, etc. we receive at this house
(and, there are lots!!) Growing Without Schooling was the only one I
would immediately sit down and read, cover to cover, as soon as it came
to my mailbox. We have lost a wonderful resource.

Mimi

On Friday, December 7, 2001, at 08:36 AM, Sarah Carothers wrote:

> <<I'm looking for something that will encourage me to continue to be a
> totally radical unschooler. >>
> Grace Lewellyn's books:
> Teenage Liberation Handbook and
> Real Lives: Eleven Teenagers Who Don't Go to School
> (I prefer Real Lives over Liberation).
> Sarah
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: kayb85
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 1:31 AM
> Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re: Christian Unschooling
>
>
>
>> So have you tried Mary Griffith's "The Unschooler's Handbook?"
>> http://www.primapublishing.com/books/book/901/
>>
>> Helen, blithely undaunted <g>
>
> Lol! I did have that book once upon a time but I lent it out about a
> year ago and never got it back. I read it back in the days when I
> described myself as "almost an unschooler" so I'm not sure if my take
> on it would be the same now as it was then. Back then I would have
> described it as "ok for someone who needs to get over being a school-
> at-homer". I would like to re-read it. I'll have to give the
> person to whom I lent the book a call and see if she still knows
> where it is.
>
> I'm 3/4 of the way through How Children Learn by John Holt. I also
> got The Continuum concept but my daughter is giving me that for
> Christmas and she has it pretty well wrapped. I'll have to wait
> until after Christmas to read that one. Any other recommendations?
> I'm looking for something that will encourage me to continue to be a
> totally radical unschooler.
>
>
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Tia Leschke

>
>"Child's Work" was very good. Don't remember the author.

Nancy Wallace. Her first was Better Than School. Both wonderful.
Tia

Tia Leschke leschke@...
On Vancouver Island
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Elsa Haas

Anyone who has read Summerhill might want to try a fairly recent book by
Matthew Appleton, a former houseparent at the school (yes, its’ a school,
but a very unusual one). It’s called A Free Range Childhood. I’d even
recommend it over Neill’s books (which have become very dated in some ways),
as an introduction to them. Matthew (I know him because I was one of the
interpreters for some talks he gave in Madrid years ago) writes very clearly
about what it’s really like to work and live with children growing up in
freedom.

The author of Child’s Work is Nancy Wallace. Her first book was Better Than
School - also excellent.

I think Leistico is the author of I Learn Better By Teaching Myself.

The Holt Associates website is at http://www.holtgws.com
<http://www.holtgws.com/>

You can link from the website to FUN Books, which bought out the book end of
Holt Associates. You can still buy back issues of GWS, and some other
things, on the Holt website itself, and they still do consulting and give
talks.

These (along with the Home Education Magazine catalog) are good places to
buy from, rather than from a big chain, if you want to help support people
connected to unschooling.

Elsa Haas


-----Original Message-----
From: groundhoggirl [mailto:groundhoggirl@...]
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 2:58 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re: Christian Unschooling

I know there's a new book called "Christian Unschooling" - Don't know
the author
"Learning All the Time" by John Holt is my all-time favorite.
Alfie Kohn's "Punished by Rewards" is great.
"Summerhill" by A. S. Neill is very good.
"Dumbing Us Down" by John Taylor Gatto is fabulous
Read all the "Growing Without Schooling" magazines you can get your
hands on.
"Child's Work" was very good. Don't remember the author.
"I Learn Better By Teaching Myself" Don't remember author
"The Hurried Child" by David Elkind

Not all of these focus exclusively on unschooling, but I found them all
very interesting and helpful. You might want to check out John Holt's
bookstore also. Do a search of Growing Without Schooling. I was very
saddened to hear about the discontinuation of their publication. Of all
the newspapers, periodicals, magazines, etc. we receive at this house
(and, there are lots!!) Growing Without Schooling was the only one I
would immediately sit down and read, cover to cover, as soon as it came
to my mailbox. We have lost a wonderful resource.

Mimi

On Friday, December 7, 2001, at 08:36 AM, Sarah Carothers wrote:

> <<I'm looking for something that will encourage me to continue to be a
> totally radical unschooler. >>
> Grace Lewellyn's books:
> Teenage Liberation Handbook and
> Real Lives: Eleven Teenagers Who Don't Go to School
> (I prefer Real Lives over Liberation).
> Sarah
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: kayb85
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 1:31 AM
> Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re: Christian Unschooling
>
>
>
>> So have you tried Mary Griffith's "The Unschooler's Handbook?"
>> http://www.primapublishing.com/books/book/901/
>>
>> Helen, blithely undaunted <g>
>
> Lol! I did have that book once upon a time but I lent it out about a
> year ago and never got it back. I read it back in the days when I
> described myself as "almost an unschooler" so I'm not sure if my take
> on it would be the same now as it was then. Back then I would have
> described it as "ok for someone who needs to get over being a school-
> at-homer". I would like to re-read it. I'll have to give the
> person to whom I lent the book a call and see if she still knows
> where it is.
>
> I'm 3/4 of the way through How Children Learn by John Holt. I also
> got The Continuum concept but my daughter is giving me that for
> Christmas and she has it pretty well wrapped. I'll have to wait
> until after Christmas to read that one. Any other recommendations?
> I'm looking for something that will encourage me to continue to be a
> totally radical unschooler.
>
>
> Message boards, timely articles, a free newsletter and more!
> Check it all out at: http://www.unschooling.com
>
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>
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>
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Julie Stauffer

Hi Cathy,

I'm in the USA, also have 5 children and consider myself a Christian
unschooler. I think the ease of reconciling the two depends on your view of
Christianity and God. If you see people as basically evil who need to be
coerced with the threat of hell and damnation to be "good", then unschooling
can be more difficult to accept.

Personally, I remember how Jesus said we should be like children, how he
honored them, how he himself taught. He lived his life, he talked and asked
questions. He never forced people to listen and take note.

I was at a support group meeting and the topic was "Scheduling our
homeschool days--a guide to lesson planning". I thought "oh yuck", but
wanted to go see some of my friends I knew would be there. The speaker told
about how she prays for God to show her what her children need to know, what
to teach them. I thought about that and figured my kids don't need me as a
go between for them and God. I think if he is looking out for me, he is
looking out for them and if he needs them to know something, he will let
them know.

Julie

jwoolfolk

I'm glad you mentioned that book. I was thinking about getting it. I have also noticed that most "Christian" unschoolers seem to be more relaxed the what I've alwasy thought would be unschooling.
Julie W in AR
I'm a Christian and I'm
an unschooler. However, there aren't any good resources out there
that I've seen that are specifically for the Christian unschooler.
The Christian Unschooling book is good for helping Abeka
homeschoolers relax, but it's more about relaxed or ecclectic
homeschooling as opposed to unschooling. It talks about unit studies
and stuff. Christian unschooling lists also are usually more relaxed
homeschooling lists


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Regina Stevenson-Healy

Has anyone read the book Christian Unschooling and if so, would you
recommend it?
Regina