Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Digest Number 2149
[email protected]
In a message dated 7/7/2002 10:42:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:
doing that thing where I'm offering an intermediate way to look at it,
thinking that a stepping stone might help someone get across the river,
whereas you are telling them to just jump the whole river at once. I, myself,
jumped the whole river <G> gleefully!!!! -- but I must admit that there were
moments when just THINKING about the stepping stones helped me be able to
jump. So - if someone just stops and thinks, for a minute, of "they teach
themselves" as not pertaining to MOST of what the kids are learning, but only
to the times when they follow a structured, systematic instructional mode of
learning sometthing, then I think it won't be long before they "get it" that
THAT is learning on their own, too. I remember asking, on the AOL boards,
"So, when you say your kids learn on their own, do your kids just go to the
bookshelf and pick out a math book and start from the beginning and study on
their own?" Well - unschoolers answered that question in so many different
ways, but I remember Christine Webb saying, "Yes, that is possible." Somehow
that indicated to ME that it was also possible that they wouldn't and THAT is
what got me really focused on thinking about all the OTHER ways kids might
really learn math, and the rest is history.
--pam
National Home Education Network
http://www.NHEN.org
Changing the Way the World Sees Homeschooling!
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[email protected] writes:
> I would say you learned to play guitar on your own.I would say I learned to play guitar on my own, too. But - once again - I'm
> You used resources in a systematic way, perhaps, and maybe you even tracked
>
> our progress, or had a deadline to meet, but teaching yourself still seems
> to
> me rooted in the teacher/student thing.
doing that thing where I'm offering an intermediate way to look at it,
thinking that a stepping stone might help someone get across the river,
whereas you are telling them to just jump the whole river at once. I, myself,
jumped the whole river <G> gleefully!!!! -- but I must admit that there were
moments when just THINKING about the stepping stones helped me be able to
jump. So - if someone just stops and thinks, for a minute, of "they teach
themselves" as not pertaining to MOST of what the kids are learning, but only
to the times when they follow a structured, systematic instructional mode of
learning sometthing, then I think it won't be long before they "get it" that
THAT is learning on their own, too. I remember asking, on the AOL boards,
"So, when you say your kids learn on their own, do your kids just go to the
bookshelf and pick out a math book and start from the beginning and study on
their own?" Well - unschoolers answered that question in so many different
ways, but I remember Christine Webb saying, "Yes, that is possible." Somehow
that indicated to ME that it was also possible that they wouldn't and THAT is
what got me really focused on thinking about all the OTHER ways kids might
really learn math, and the rest is history.
--pam
National Home Education Network
http://www.NHEN.org
Changing the Way the World Sees Homeschooling!
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[email protected]
In a message dated 7/7/2002 10:42:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:
giving instruction is the best definition of "teaching." All the more reason
for the term to be discarded by people who are trying to get a better
understanding of unschooling.
--pam
National Home Education Network
http://www.NHEN.org
Changing the Way the World Sees Homeschooling!
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[email protected] writes:
> People get paid to teach even when nobody learns! But I think it's veryAnd yet, they DO get paid for it <G>. So maybe going through the motions of
> strange to refer to "I teach" as intransitive, as being a verb which
> requires
> no object/learner/student.
>
> If a teacher lectures in the forest and nobody hears it...
> If a teacher lectures in a classroom and nobody's actually listening...
> If a teacher presents a lesson and everyone there already knows the
> material...
>
> There is no teaching happening.
giving instruction is the best definition of "teaching." All the more reason
for the term to be discarded by people who are trying to get a better
understanding of unschooling.
--pam
National Home Education Network
http://www.NHEN.org
Changing the Way the World Sees Homeschooling!
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