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In a message dated 7/3/02 2:20:51 AM Central Daylight Time,
abtleo@... writes:


> > She said they wouldn't have the
> > opportunity to learn about this elsewhere, it was the best thing they
> were in
> > preschool so they wouldn't be behind in kindergarten.
>
> Sorry, but didn't kindergarten come from the idea of making sure that no
> kids were left behind in 1st grade? Are we going to add pre-preschool for
> babies so they're not left behind in preschool?

Well, here we have early head start, which is where poor young mothers start
going even before their children are born. Parents as teachers, which is
almost the same thing with a different name on it for the middle class. Then
there is head start to give disadvantaged children the leg up they need for
kindergarten. There is pre-kindergarten, again almost the same thing as
headstart, just a different name. And the old standby preschool is still an
option as well.

All I know is my pretty little niece with the exact same voice her mother had
at two can now say "Coby say shud uhp" and "Makaya hudded me she in time
out." My sister thinks it is great that Isabelle has blossomed and really
opened up, and her vocabulary has improved since she started preschool. All I
know is that Isabelle now knows how to say shut up from a little guy named
Colby and that some little girl named Michaella hits her and gets a time out.
Not what I call blossoming or a "head start!"
~Nancy



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mary krzyzanowski

the little boy saying "shut up" and the little girl hitting is a head start
for school--they'll be all set to give out verbal and physical abuse at
school.
Mary-NY


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>Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 03:38:28 EDT
>
>In a message dated 7/3/02 2:20:51 AM Central Daylight Time,
>abtleo@... writes:
>
>
> > > She said they wouldn't have the
> > > opportunity to learn about this elsewhere, it was the best thing they
> > were in
> > > preschool so they wouldn't be behind in kindergarten.
> >
> > Sorry, but didn't kindergarten come from the idea of making sure that no
> > kids were left behind in 1st grade? Are we going to add pre-preschool
>for
> > babies so they're not left behind in preschool?
>
>Well, here we have early head start, which is where poor young mothers
>start
>going even before their children are born. Parents as teachers, which is
>almost the same thing with a different name on it for the middle class.
>Then
>there is head start to give disadvantaged children the leg up they need for
>kindergarten. There is pre-kindergarten, again almost the same thing as
>headstart, just a different name. And the old standby preschool is still an
>option as well.
>
>All I know is my pretty little niece with the exact same voice her mother
>had
>at two can now say "Coby say shud uhp" and "Makaya hudded me she in time
>out." My sister thinks it is great that Isabelle has blossomed and really
>opened up, and her vocabulary has improved since she started preschool. All
>I
>know is that Isabelle now knows how to say shut up from a little guy named
>Colby and that some little girl named Michaella hits her and gets a time
>out.
>Not what I call blossoming or a "head start!"
>~Nancy
>
>
>
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Lewis

On the preschool topic,

Our two oldest went to preschool, for two years each, and they LOVED it. In
my opinion, if all schools were more like preschools, the world would be
much better off.

Our youngest did not go, because he did not want to be separated from Mom
and Dad and Brothers, and lots of other family members, which was fine with
me.

Really, they went to private church preschools, and had so much fun, only
two mornings per week. All they did is play, sing songs, listen to stories,
put on holiday performances, etc. The boys both loved it. They both went
to Kindegarten, and were not happy at all, which I am glad for. Kindegarten
was all about sitting down, being quiet, listening, BORING for my boys.


Debbie

Tia Leschke

>
>
>Our two oldest went to preschool, for two years each, and they LOVED it. In
>my opinion, if all schools were more like preschools, the world would be
>much better off.

I sent Lars to preschool, partly because he was was like an only, with much
older siblings, and partly because of their philosophy that kids learn
through play. (I would have taken him out in a minute if he didn't like
it.) I was also hoping he would make some friends that he would keep after
the others went to school, but that didn't really happen. He's made most
of his friends through sports teams.
Tia

No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.
Eleanor Roosevelt
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Tia Leschke
leschke@...
On Vancouver Island

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In a message dated 7/3/02 2:52:56 PM Central Daylight Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:


> << And at least in some parts of Germany, Waldorf schools are a
> publicly-funded choice. >>
>
> Do you know whether they've maintained or downplayed the racist element of
> it?
>
> Pure Waldorf and Germany sounds like a bad combination to me.
>

Oh Sandra, I just love your posts this week! First you sent me off looking
for information on the history of infant feeding and now Waldorf and racism!
Not that I know much about Waldorf. Could you elaborate please? This sounds
interesting to me.
~Nancy


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