[email protected]

Bonni, may I print this out and show to my sister in law? She and my nephew
are in town visiting and I have discovered (by her proud admittance) that
she is using a belt on my 8yo nephew.
I would also like to get her a book on non-punitive christian parenting.
Does anyone have any suggestions?
Lastly, are there Christian websites that counter the arguement to spank?
~Elissa Cleaveland
"It is nothing short of a miracle that the modern methods of instruction
have
not yet entirely strangled the holy curiosity of inquiry." A. Einstein

Bonni Sollars

Elissa, sure go ahead and print it. The fact is I never heard anything
in Christian circles about not spanking at all, until my present church.
So, I don't know. I did read a lot that described specifically when and
how to spank in a controlled, careful way, but none that says no spanking
and not even close for no negative discipline. The fact is, God speaks
to us, so they say, through the Word (the Bible) and through our
conscience (God's Spirit to our spirit) and through our circumstances
(other people, events and experiences). I was in a deficit of
circumstances, in ignorance and blindness of the Word, and in denial of
my conscience. It wasn't until I had the courage to face my fears that
something I believed could be false that I could seek out and accept this
truth, only to find that it perfectly coincides with scripture.
Bonni

Tia Leschke

>Bonni, may I print this out and show to my sister in law? She and my nephew
>are in town visiting and I have discovered (by her proud admittance) that
>she is using a belt on my 8yo nephew.
>I would also like to get her a book on non-punitive christian parenting.
>Does anyone have any suggestions?
>Lastly, are there Christian websites that counter the arguement to spank?

I copied this to another list where I knew there was someone who would have
some answers for you. Here they are:

Arms of Love Family Fellowship- author of the Book Biblical Parenting
(click on banner at top to find out more about the book or check out the
Amazon reviews)
http://www.aolff.org/

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/193058668X/qid%3D1007311510/sr%3D1-20/ref/107-2012710-3963749


Christlike Parenting: Taking the Pain Out of Parenting Dr. Glen Latham,
Ed.D.
http://www.parentingprescriptions.com/products.htm

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1882723406/qid=1016828597/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_71_1/002-4660024-9084801


Suffer the Little Children (this is by a woman who used to use Mike and
Debbie Pearl's Child Training methods- using a implement to spank)-
check out the Word Study: The Rod
http://www.suite101.com/myhome.cfm/shebetstudy


A Critique of "Growing Kids God's Way"- another Christian program that
encourages using an implement for the "rod"
http://www.mailing-list.net/redrhino/Francis/


Book: Families Where Grace is In Place
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1556612664/qid%3D954779989/002-6205790-1123442


The Training and Discipline of Children
http://www.angelfire.com/biz3/gatheringplace/discipline.html


Grace Based Discipline
http://www.geocities.com/jesusvegan/GBD.htm


Jo's Place
http://www.suite101.com/myhome.cfm/PositiveDiscipline


Positive Discipline in the Christian Home: Using the Bible to Develop
Character and Strengthen Moral Development Jane Nelson
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0761536000/qid=1002731969/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_20_1/107-2527376-2902122



Therapy for adults who have suffered the legalistic/ rod based parenting
(and why this type of parenting is good to avoid)

Growing Up Wholly and Holy: Understanding and Hope for Adult Children of
Evangelicals
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0943497876/qid=1012026772/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_19_1/103-2393258-9213416


The Dangers of Growing Up in a Christian Home
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0967110505/ref=pd_bxgy_text_2/103-2393258-921341

Tired of Trying to Measure Up
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1556610300/ref=pd_sim_books/107-2012710-3963749


The Yucky Stuff she might be into:
The Pearls
http://www.nogreaterjoy.org/


The Ezzo's
http://www.GFI.org/


No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.
Eleanor Roosevelt
*********************************************
Tia Leschke
leschke@...
On Vancouver Island

Bonni Sollars

Tia, How Awesome! Thanks, Thanks, Thanks.
You may not know, but I love to read and take notes. You've certainly
given me a lot of material. I feel like crying right now. Thanks,
Thanks, Thanks.
Bonni

[email protected]

Thank you Tia
I am copying it to a word doc to put together a little package. I am going
to a book festival today (WOOHOO!) and will see if I can find anything
there.
then I'll check that stupid borders books.
~Elissa Cleaveland
"It is nothing short of a miracle that the modern methods of instruction
have
not yet entirely strangled the holy curiosity of inquiry." A. Einstein

Tia Leschke

>Tia, How Awesome! Thanks, Thanks, Thanks.
>You may not know, but I love to read and take notes. You've certainly
>given me a lot of material. I feel like crying right now. Thanks,
>Thanks, Thanks.
>Bonni

I got another post from her today:
Hi Tia

I hope that e-mail of christian non-puntative parenting resources
helped.. I'd be happy to discuss this with the woman who was trying to
influence her sister in law. I'd love to hear about any response she
gets from the SIL if she shares it on the list.
I forgot to mention one group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PositiveChristianAP


Thinking about that poor eight year old..



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No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.
Eleanor Roosevelt
*********************************************
Tia Leschke
leschke@...
On Vancouver Island

Tia Leschke

>Thank you Tia
>I am copying it to a word doc to put together a little package. I am going
>to a book festival today (WOOHOO!) and will see if I can find anything
>there.
>then I'll check that stupid borders books.

Also check out the reply I sent to Bonni today. This person really would
be happy to correspond with . . .whoever it was you wanted this info for. <g>
Tia

No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.
Eleanor Roosevelt
*********************************************
Tia Leschke
leschke@...
On Vancouver Island