was Andrea Yates now SANDRA
vivrh
Sandra
I am a Christian and I am on a few Christian Unschooling Lists and various other lists. I DO feel as though it is my responsibility to raise my children a certain way AND chastise them. Does that mean that I beat them (even lightly) with a dowel? NO NEVER. Does it mean I do not unschool? I dont think so. Does it mean I can be a unschooler as well as a Christian? I think they CAN mutually exsist.
So speaking as one of THEM, I feel as though your generalization is WAY off base. And really isnt that what all the fuss about to be or not be an unschooler was about? Maybe we should NOT make blanket statements about others that we have no REAL intimate knowledge of.
JUST MY NOT SO HUMBLE OPINION! :-)
God bless
Vivian
Mom to three Happy little Monkeys
Austin 10/31/93 Sarah 8/28/95 Emmalee 8/15/00
And loving wife to Randy
**If fifty million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing.
-Anatole France***
I am a Christian and I am on a few Christian Unschooling Lists and various other lists. I DO feel as though it is my responsibility to raise my children a certain way AND chastise them. Does that mean that I beat them (even lightly) with a dowel? NO NEVER. Does it mean I do not unschool? I dont think so. Does it mean I can be a unschooler as well as a Christian? I think they CAN mutually exsist.
So speaking as one of THEM, I feel as though your generalization is WAY off base. And really isnt that what all the fuss about to be or not be an unschooler was about? Maybe we should NOT make blanket statements about others that we have no REAL intimate knowledge of.
JUST MY NOT SO HUMBLE OPINION! :-)
God bless
Vivian
Mom to three Happy little Monkeys
Austin 10/31/93 Sarah 8/28/95 Emmalee 8/15/00
And loving wife to Randy
**If fifty million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing.
-Anatole France***
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From: SandraDodd@...
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Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re: Andrea Yates
-=-To me he's been involved with his offspring for 7 yrs.-=-
Not involved enough, I think!
It was creepy to read that she had marked the Bible passages about her duty
to discipline her children, or whatever. That's big on some of the Christian
homeschooling sites. That God will punish parents who fail to chastise their
children. They justify spankings and (light) beatings (with dowels) by
saying if they DON'T do it they're not obeying God.
Sandra
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Vivian,
What does it mean when you say chastise?
I have an image of the word but would be interested in *your* idea.
BTW, Sandra could out-debate the POPE on the subject of being christian so
watch out! :o) LOL
~Elissa Cleaveland
"It is nothing short of a miracle that the modern methods of instruction
have
not yet entirely strangled the holy curiosity of inquiry." A. Einstein
What does it mean when you say chastise?
I have an image of the word but would be interested in *your* idea.
BTW, Sandra could out-debate the POPE on the subject of being christian so
watch out! :o) LOL
~Elissa Cleaveland
"It is nothing short of a miracle that the modern methods of instruction
have
not yet entirely strangled the holy curiosity of inquiry." A. Einstein
Kara Bauer
I DO feel as though it is my responsibility to raise my children a certain way AND chastise them. >>
Could you elaborate this please? To me, chastising them is the opposite of what unschooling is about, respect. But instead of jumping to conclusions, I would like to hear more.
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Could you elaborate this please? To me, chastising them is the opposite of what unschooling is about, respect. But instead of jumping to conclusions, I would like to hear more.
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joanna514
--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., "Kara Bauer" <KaraBauer4@m...> wrote:
jumping to conclusions, I would like to hear more.
Chastise-1: to punish esp. bodily 2: to censure severely: CASTIGATE
I looked up castigate- to punish or criticize severely
I have nothing further to add.
Joanna
> I DO feel as though it is my responsibility to raise my children acertain way AND chastise them. >>
>opposite of what unschooling is about, respect. But instead of
> Could you elaborate this please? To me, chastising them is the
jumping to conclusions, I would like to hear more.
> KaraGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download :http://explorer.msn.com
>Websters
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Chastise-1: to punish esp. bodily 2: to censure severely: CASTIGATE
I looked up castigate- to punish or criticize severely
I have nothing further to add.
Joanna
Lynda
The pope isn't considered Christian.
Lynda
Lynda
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Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 8:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] was Andrea Yates now SANDRA
> Vivian,
> What does it mean when you say chastise?
> I have an image of the word but would be interested in *your* idea.
> BTW, Sandra could out-debate the POPE on the subject of being christian so
> watch out! :o) LOL
> ~Elissa Cleaveland
> "It is nothing short of a miracle that the modern methods of instruction
> have
> not yet entirely strangled the holy curiosity of inquiry." A. Einstein
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He sure is Christian compared to me, a Jew.
Maybe not to a member of a Protestant denomination.
Catholocism is a form of Christianity, just like Protestantism,
episcopalian, Seventh Day Adventist, right?
Would a Catholic describe themselves as Christian?
~Elissa Cleaveland
"It is nothing short of a miracle that the modern methods of instruction
have
not yet entirely strangled the holy curiosity of inquiry." A. Einstein
Maybe not to a member of a Protestant denomination.
Catholocism is a form of Christianity, just like Protestantism,
episcopalian, Seventh Day Adventist, right?
Would a Catholic describe themselves as Christian?
~Elissa Cleaveland
"It is nothing short of a miracle that the modern methods of instruction
have
not yet entirely strangled the holy curiosity of inquiry." A. Einstein
rumpleteasermom
--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., <ElissaJC@c...> wrote:
> Would a Catholic describe themselves as Christian?Yes.
>
Tia Leschke
>The pope isn't considered Christian.By some Christians. I'm sure the Catholics consider him one.
Tia
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Heather Woodward
Why is it that the Bible says " call no man thy father, save thy father which is in heaven" -(a meaning a father in spiritual leadership - and yet we have the Holy Father - (I may have this title wrong) and various priests, etc. who are called "Father so - and so"?
Heather
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Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 4:28 PM
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The pope isn't considered Christian.
Lynda
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Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 8:36 AM
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> Vivian,
> What does it mean when you say chastise?
> I have an image of the word but would be interested in *your* idea.
> BTW, Sandra could out-debate the POPE on the subject of being christian so
> watch out! :o) LOL
> ~Elissa Cleaveland
> "It is nothing short of a miracle that the modern methods of instruction
> have
> not yet entirely strangled the holy curiosity of inquiry." A. Einstein
>
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Joseph Fuerst
> The pope isn't considered Christian.Of course, the pope IS considered Christian! Perhaps not by you, but
>
> Lynda
> >
it's not the case.
Susan
Joseph Fuerst
> Would a Catholic describe themselves as Christian?This one would......though the connotations of that
> ~Elissa Cleaveland
label.......fundamantalist, Bible thumping, right wing conservative.....do
not come anywhere near describing me. I guess 'Christian' is not nearly
broad enough to describe catholicism (litle 'c' on purpose), actually.
The Catholic faith encompasses much more.
Susan....who's not considered a "good" Catholic by some other Catholic's
standards. Dh says I'd be considered a heretic by many. I think its
arguable. But I have a sense of being on a faith journey.
rumpleteasermom
Susan,
Sound like you and my mom would get along famously! She is a
heretical catholic too and has been since about 1945.
Bridget
Sound like you and my mom would get along famously! She is a
heretical catholic too and has been since about 1945.
Bridget
--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., "Joseph Fuerst" <fuerst@f...> wrote:
>
> Susan....who's not considered a "good" Catholic by some other
Catholic's
> standards. Dh says I'd be considered a heretic by many. I think
its
> arguable. But I have a sense of being on a faith journey.
Joseph Fuerst
Wow! I would like to get together with her......I have no Pre-Vatican II
life experience. I find myself wondering what it must have beem like to go
through those major changes.
Locally, there was a HUGE stir over how the cathedral would be renovated -
Oh, no.....you can't change it (i.e., move the tabernacle, altar, etc).
I'm really intersested in how Catholic life must have been before
V-2.....though I'm sure it's shadows lurked during my childhood experience.
Susan
life experience. I find myself wondering what it must have beem like to go
through those major changes.
Locally, there was a HUGE stir over how the cathedral would be renovated -
Oh, no.....you can't change it (i.e., move the tabernacle, altar, etc).
I'm really intersested in how Catholic life must have been before
V-2.....though I'm sure it's shadows lurked during my childhood experience.
Susan
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Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 7:51 AM
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> Susan,
>
> Sound like you and my mom would get along famously! She is a
> heretical catholic too and has been since about 1945.
>
> Bridget
>
> --- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., "Joseph Fuerst" <fuerst@f...> wrote:
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> >
> > Susan....who's not considered a "good" Catholic by some other
> Catholic's
> > standards. Dh says I'd be considered a heretic by many. I think
> its
> > arguable. But I have a sense of being on a faith journey.
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