The "Hs" have it
Lynda
I was wandering down memory lane and was thinking about all this "h"ysteria
over defining unschooling and what is or isn't "true" unschooling and came
up with a whole lot of words beginning with "h" that were a great influence
on my journey with unschooling.
Historically I come from a long line of unschooling type thinkers (notice
the sentence starts with "h" <g>). Both my grandfather and
great-grandfather would have been right at home with unschooling. If my
grandfather or any of his 18 brothers and sisters wanted to learn about
something, their father (this was in the 1800s) would order up whatever was
needed (including shipping tutors in). There was no "I am a landowner and
farmer, you will be too" or "you are a girl you will learn to clean and
cook." My grandfather was the same with my mother and my aunts and uncles.
In fact, he risks federal prison and withdrew them all from school!
Herb. My dad would have been right at home with unschooling. Even though
my sister and I went to ps it wasn't required that we fit the mold and
wherever our interests led that is where we were encouraged to go. I was
working on motorcycles when I was 5.
Heather. She was my first experience with what is now called unschooling.
She was the influence that led me to "unschool" my nieces and nephews back
when homeschooling was underground. I still stop and think "what would
Heather do?"
Holt. He gave it a name and the foundation from which the world of
unschooling has grown.
Helen. She is why I joined this list and while there are many others that I
respect (Mary, Mary, Linda, and the list goes on), her words are the ones
that always seem so rational in what sometimes seems like a war of words or
even a deliberate misunderstanding simply because one party may not like the
original poster, not their words.
And worth reading again in my wanderings with the letter "H" -- Lynda
==========
Defining Unschooling
by Helen Hegener
Over the past few months there has been a lot of discussion
in homeschooling circles about unschooling, what it is, what it
isn't, and how one does it - or doesn't. Workshops on unschooling
have become standard fare at homeschool conferences and conventions,
and several homeschooling publications have tried to define the word.
There are even derivatives now, like Christian unschooling and
structured unschooling and radical unschooling.
Unschooling is an interesting word, or at least I think it's
a word. How many people need to use a word, and more or less
understand and agree on what it means, before it officially joins our
language - as in it gets added to our dictionaries? I don't think the
word homeschooling was around for more than six or seven years before
it showed up in a major dictionary. Maybe with a few more years of
useage unschooling will join the ranks of publicly recognized and
respectable words.
But to be included in a dictionary, a word needs a
definition, and unschooling is a particularly difficult word to
define. Just last month there was a long and involved discussion
about what it means - and doesn't mean - on one of America Online's
homeschooling forums. There were those who felt unschooling totally
precludes the use of school-type materials, and those who said the
materials don't matter, it's your attitude that counts. From the
online discussions, one could gather that unschooling generally seems
to refer to the act of not learning in the same ways we were expected
to learn in school, i.e. with textbooks, workbooks, lesson plans,
drills and all the rest. But many avowed unschoolers said they do use
these handy educational tools, just not always in the ways they were
originally designed for.
Most unschoolers agree that it goes a little further than
that, tho, and can mean the entire process of shaking off schoolish
habits, patterns, and expectations. Of course others will say that
it's not a process at all, but just what they do with their kids
every day. It's their interactions, their interconnectedness, their
very lives.
In the Dec/Jan 1995 issue of Growing Without Schooling,
editor Susannah Sheffer had some interesting comments on the history
of the word 'homeschooling,' and I was surprised to learn that
unschooling was actually the predecessor of that word. For a long
time now I've thought it was the other way around!
Susannah noted that John Holt had used the word 'unschooling'
in GWS #2, noting "at the beginning Holt simply used it as a synonym
for what we now call homeschooling." She adds "By issue #12, which
I'd date at June 1979, you can see that the magazine was using
'unschooling' and 'homeschooling' pretty much interchangeably, and
gradually the term 'homeschooling' became the more common one."
Grace Llewellyn gives our term an interesting spin in The
Teenage Liberation Handbook. Throughout the book she prefers the term
unschooling, explaining early on that it has fewer negative
connotations than homeschooling. But in Chapter 11, on Legal Issues,
she writes: "I am shifting my terminology a little. In this chapter,
I will mostly use the euphemism 'homeschooling' rather than
'unschooling.' 'Unschooling' is not a legally recognized term, and
probably never will be. Don't use it when you talk to schools,
courts, or legislators; it will confuse them."
Well, maybe we shouldn't get our hopes up about getting it
into the dictionaries.
For that matter, do we even want official dictionary-style
recognition of the word's meaning? Unschooling means many things to
many people... that became quite obvious in the America Online
discussions. And that's part of its appeal. Each family, each
individual, can decide what they want it to mean for themselves
within a loosely-accepted larger context.
There's an odd dynamic at work in that once a word is
defined, it begins to lose its meaning through overuse,
overpopularity. The word homeschooling, officially recognized for
some time now, has been showing up in some strange places, most
notably as what parents do with their children after school and on
weekends. Because the term is widely recognized and accepted, it's
being used to stretch the meaning of other activities, with the very
real danger that the word's own original meaning will be completely
lost.
This has already happened with the term 'alternative
schools.' Where that once meant schools which functioned outside the
educational bureaucracy, it now also means special public schools for
kids who don't fit well into the usual regimen. If one uses the term
alternative schools but means free schools, or student-participatory
schools, or any of the other originally accepted definitions, the
distinction needs to be made clear.
Unschooling is still a wonderfully nebulous term, subject to
individual interpretation. Homeschoolers can argue themselves in
circles about what it means, and that's as it should be. We need
words that are vague yet descriptive, changeable while unchanging. In
much the same way that homeschoolers have taken leave of the
educational bureaucracy, we've taken leave of the English language
bureaucracy and are exploring new options in communication. We're
unschooling in the best sense of the word.
over defining unschooling and what is or isn't "true" unschooling and came
up with a whole lot of words beginning with "h" that were a great influence
on my journey with unschooling.
Historically I come from a long line of unschooling type thinkers (notice
the sentence starts with "h" <g>). Both my grandfather and
great-grandfather would have been right at home with unschooling. If my
grandfather or any of his 18 brothers and sisters wanted to learn about
something, their father (this was in the 1800s) would order up whatever was
needed (including shipping tutors in). There was no "I am a landowner and
farmer, you will be too" or "you are a girl you will learn to clean and
cook." My grandfather was the same with my mother and my aunts and uncles.
In fact, he risks federal prison and withdrew them all from school!
Herb. My dad would have been right at home with unschooling. Even though
my sister and I went to ps it wasn't required that we fit the mold and
wherever our interests led that is where we were encouraged to go. I was
working on motorcycles when I was 5.
Heather. She was my first experience with what is now called unschooling.
She was the influence that led me to "unschool" my nieces and nephews back
when homeschooling was underground. I still stop and think "what would
Heather do?"
Holt. He gave it a name and the foundation from which the world of
unschooling has grown.
Helen. She is why I joined this list and while there are many others that I
respect (Mary, Mary, Linda, and the list goes on), her words are the ones
that always seem so rational in what sometimes seems like a war of words or
even a deliberate misunderstanding simply because one party may not like the
original poster, not their words.
And worth reading again in my wanderings with the letter "H" -- Lynda
==========
Defining Unschooling
by Helen Hegener
Over the past few months there has been a lot of discussion
in homeschooling circles about unschooling, what it is, what it
isn't, and how one does it - or doesn't. Workshops on unschooling
have become standard fare at homeschool conferences and conventions,
and several homeschooling publications have tried to define the word.
There are even derivatives now, like Christian unschooling and
structured unschooling and radical unschooling.
Unschooling is an interesting word, or at least I think it's
a word. How many people need to use a word, and more or less
understand and agree on what it means, before it officially joins our
language - as in it gets added to our dictionaries? I don't think the
word homeschooling was around for more than six or seven years before
it showed up in a major dictionary. Maybe with a few more years of
useage unschooling will join the ranks of publicly recognized and
respectable words.
But to be included in a dictionary, a word needs a
definition, and unschooling is a particularly difficult word to
define. Just last month there was a long and involved discussion
about what it means - and doesn't mean - on one of America Online's
homeschooling forums. There were those who felt unschooling totally
precludes the use of school-type materials, and those who said the
materials don't matter, it's your attitude that counts. From the
online discussions, one could gather that unschooling generally seems
to refer to the act of not learning in the same ways we were expected
to learn in school, i.e. with textbooks, workbooks, lesson plans,
drills and all the rest. But many avowed unschoolers said they do use
these handy educational tools, just not always in the ways they were
originally designed for.
Most unschoolers agree that it goes a little further than
that, tho, and can mean the entire process of shaking off schoolish
habits, patterns, and expectations. Of course others will say that
it's not a process at all, but just what they do with their kids
every day. It's their interactions, their interconnectedness, their
very lives.
In the Dec/Jan 1995 issue of Growing Without Schooling,
editor Susannah Sheffer had some interesting comments on the history
of the word 'homeschooling,' and I was surprised to learn that
unschooling was actually the predecessor of that word. For a long
time now I've thought it was the other way around!
Susannah noted that John Holt had used the word 'unschooling'
in GWS #2, noting "at the beginning Holt simply used it as a synonym
for what we now call homeschooling." She adds "By issue #12, which
I'd date at June 1979, you can see that the magazine was using
'unschooling' and 'homeschooling' pretty much interchangeably, and
gradually the term 'homeschooling' became the more common one."
Grace Llewellyn gives our term an interesting spin in The
Teenage Liberation Handbook. Throughout the book she prefers the term
unschooling, explaining early on that it has fewer negative
connotations than homeschooling. But in Chapter 11, on Legal Issues,
she writes: "I am shifting my terminology a little. In this chapter,
I will mostly use the euphemism 'homeschooling' rather than
'unschooling.' 'Unschooling' is not a legally recognized term, and
probably never will be. Don't use it when you talk to schools,
courts, or legislators; it will confuse them."
Well, maybe we shouldn't get our hopes up about getting it
into the dictionaries.
For that matter, do we even want official dictionary-style
recognition of the word's meaning? Unschooling means many things to
many people... that became quite obvious in the America Online
discussions. And that's part of its appeal. Each family, each
individual, can decide what they want it to mean for themselves
within a loosely-accepted larger context.
There's an odd dynamic at work in that once a word is
defined, it begins to lose its meaning through overuse,
overpopularity. The word homeschooling, officially recognized for
some time now, has been showing up in some strange places, most
notably as what parents do with their children after school and on
weekends. Because the term is widely recognized and accepted, it's
being used to stretch the meaning of other activities, with the very
real danger that the word's own original meaning will be completely
lost.
This has already happened with the term 'alternative
schools.' Where that once meant schools which functioned outside the
educational bureaucracy, it now also means special public schools for
kids who don't fit well into the usual regimen. If one uses the term
alternative schools but means free schools, or student-participatory
schools, or any of the other originally accepted definitions, the
distinction needs to be made clear.
Unschooling is still a wonderfully nebulous term, subject to
individual interpretation. Homeschoolers can argue themselves in
circles about what it means, and that's as it should be. We need
words that are vague yet descriptive, changeable while unchanging. In
much the same way that homeschoolers have taken leave of the
educational bureaucracy, we've taken leave of the English language
bureaucracy and are exploring new options in communication. We're
unschooling in the best sense of the word.
[email protected]
I loved reading how you have been influenced Lynda!! And I like knowing how
others define unschooling. . . in your own family. . . well, I guess really
more for yourself, how do you define it?
Living in Abundance
Mary
others define unschooling. . . in your own family. . . well, I guess really
more for yourself, how do you define it?
Living in Abundance
Mary
Helen Hegener
Made my morning, Lynda, to read your musings as I sat here eating my
muffets (a Canadian version of Shredded Wheat I always bring back
from my trips north). Interesting what you wrote about your
ancestors, as there's a long streak in my family of not wanting much
to do with schools and schooling. Again, it wasn't any "just be happy
little farmers" attitude, because they weren't - my grandma was a
professional musician before she married my grandfather, who was a
construction foreman on Shasta Dam near Redding. My
great-great-grandfather was one of the first doctors into Mendocino
County... but there are many stories in my background of kids leaving
school at a tender age to get on with life. An uncle left school when
he was 12 - his father died and he took over running the family farm.
My dad left school at 14 to work on cars in his uncle's shop, and at
16 my grandmother helped him fudge his age so he could join the Army
with his brothers. My mom quit school at 13 simply because she
preferred riding her horses through the hills - and her parents never
made her go back. I remember my grandma once saying that a kid can
learn a lot more worth knowing from a horse than from a teacher.
I'm just getting back up to speed with this list (and many others),
but it's nice to see that old familiar friendly conversation going on
here.
Helen
muffets (a Canadian version of Shredded Wheat I always bring back
from my trips north). Interesting what you wrote about your
ancestors, as there's a long streak in my family of not wanting much
to do with schools and schooling. Again, it wasn't any "just be happy
little farmers" attitude, because they weren't - my grandma was a
professional musician before she married my grandfather, who was a
construction foreman on Shasta Dam near Redding. My
great-great-grandfather was one of the first doctors into Mendocino
County... but there are many stories in my background of kids leaving
school at a tender age to get on with life. An uncle left school when
he was 12 - his father died and he took over running the family farm.
My dad left school at 14 to work on cars in his uncle's shop, and at
16 my grandmother helped him fudge his age so he could join the Army
with his brothers. My mom quit school at 13 simply because she
preferred riding her horses through the hills - and her parents never
made her go back. I remember my grandma once saying that a kid can
learn a lot more worth knowing from a horse than from a teacher.
I'm just getting back up to speed with this list (and many others),
but it's nice to see that old familiar friendly conversation going on
here.
Helen
TheQueen
More "h's"..
Helen wrote:
<I remember my grandma once saying that a kid can
learn a lot more worth knowing from a horse than from a teacher.>
Lynda, that must be where you got all your knowledge, seeing as you're a
Horse person :-)
Sarah
Sarah Carothers
puddles@...
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Helen wrote:
<I remember my grandma once saying that a kid can
learn a lot more worth knowing from a horse than from a teacher.>
Lynda, that must be where you got all your knowledge, seeing as you're a
Horse person :-)
Sarah
Sarah Carothers
puddles@...
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Lynda
As an adventure. Sometimes one needs road signs but most of the time one
doesn't.
It is really hard to describe how we unschool or define it without a whole
history. I never paid too much attention to rules or gender specific roles
because we never really had any in our family. My grandfather taught all us
girls how to hammer a nail and use a saw. My dad had no problem with
teaching us how to rebuild a Harley or letting us help rebuild the engines
in cars or learning how to do body work. I learned to box when I was 10
(that was in the 50s and unheard of) because one of my uncle's best friends
was a professional boxer and when I asked about it they showed me.
Maybe it was the area I grew up in or maybe I just lucked out by being born
into several generations of liberated folks.
I've always been totally "kicked back" and a rebel, so what has become known
as unschooling came easy, we just didn't know it had a name for the longest
time <g> I think the family motto is "Hey, KEWL" and then we explore.
Today is a typical day for us. Youngest kidlet (9) got up at about 8. She
did exercises (she wants to take gymnastics but decided she wanted to be in
shape first) which included the weight machine, free weights and floor
exercises and stretches. Then she made herself breakfast and played on the
computer for awhile. Then she headed outside with Tuff E (new puppy). They
fed the rabbit and played chase. She came in about 12:30 and fixed lunch
for herself and Tuff E. Right now she just finished watching a video (Why
Coyote Has The Best Eyes) and is now watching cartoons.
The boys rolled out of bed about 1. Eldest son pulled out a writer's
handbook and spent about an hour reviewing writing practices. He's decided
that his writing isn't up to par for college and he is headed off to college
in the fall. He then went out and hit the punching bag for a while, then
played with the puppy, took a shower and called a couple of friends. They
all took off for parts unknown. About an hour ago they stopped back with a
movie that they thought hubby and I would enjoy watching.
Middle kidlet futzed on the computer for a while and the curled up in the
sun with a book while grumbling that he wished the woman that wrote the
Harry Potter books would get her arse in gear and get the next one
published. Later he went out and practiced punting a football. He hasn't
decided if he will try out for the high school team next year or the Pop
Warner team or if he will just make a video when he is older and send it to
NFL scouts.
Hubby transplanted a tree for me earlier, then went shopping and is now
watching Rosie or Oprah.
I worked on a deposition for a ADA case against the state this morning and
now I'm up here in my VIP space pounding away at this machine <g>
Yesterday was completely different and tomorrow will be too. Although, I
have been informed (3 different times, by 3 different people, in 3 different
ways <g>) that it is time to get busy in the garden so I guess that means we
will probably all be out in the garden tomorrow. Which reminds me, I was
suppose to be looking for blue flowers that smell good on the net. Anyone
know of any that are blue AND smell good?
So how do I define it? I don't. Definitions are too constraining. It
grows and changes as do we.
Lynda
doesn't.
It is really hard to describe how we unschool or define it without a whole
history. I never paid too much attention to rules or gender specific roles
because we never really had any in our family. My grandfather taught all us
girls how to hammer a nail and use a saw. My dad had no problem with
teaching us how to rebuild a Harley or letting us help rebuild the engines
in cars or learning how to do body work. I learned to box when I was 10
(that was in the 50s and unheard of) because one of my uncle's best friends
was a professional boxer and when I asked about it they showed me.
Maybe it was the area I grew up in or maybe I just lucked out by being born
into several generations of liberated folks.
I've always been totally "kicked back" and a rebel, so what has become known
as unschooling came easy, we just didn't know it had a name for the longest
time <g> I think the family motto is "Hey, KEWL" and then we explore.
Today is a typical day for us. Youngest kidlet (9) got up at about 8. She
did exercises (she wants to take gymnastics but decided she wanted to be in
shape first) which included the weight machine, free weights and floor
exercises and stretches. Then she made herself breakfast and played on the
computer for awhile. Then she headed outside with Tuff E (new puppy). They
fed the rabbit and played chase. She came in about 12:30 and fixed lunch
for herself and Tuff E. Right now she just finished watching a video (Why
Coyote Has The Best Eyes) and is now watching cartoons.
The boys rolled out of bed about 1. Eldest son pulled out a writer's
handbook and spent about an hour reviewing writing practices. He's decided
that his writing isn't up to par for college and he is headed off to college
in the fall. He then went out and hit the punching bag for a while, then
played with the puppy, took a shower and called a couple of friends. They
all took off for parts unknown. About an hour ago they stopped back with a
movie that they thought hubby and I would enjoy watching.
Middle kidlet futzed on the computer for a while and the curled up in the
sun with a book while grumbling that he wished the woman that wrote the
Harry Potter books would get her arse in gear and get the next one
published. Later he went out and practiced punting a football. He hasn't
decided if he will try out for the high school team next year or the Pop
Warner team or if he will just make a video when he is older and send it to
NFL scouts.
Hubby transplanted a tree for me earlier, then went shopping and is now
watching Rosie or Oprah.
I worked on a deposition for a ADA case against the state this morning and
now I'm up here in my VIP space pounding away at this machine <g>
Yesterday was completely different and tomorrow will be too. Although, I
have been informed (3 different times, by 3 different people, in 3 different
ways <g>) that it is time to get busy in the garden so I guess that means we
will probably all be out in the garden tomorrow. Which reminds me, I was
suppose to be looking for blue flowers that smell good on the net. Anyone
know of any that are blue AND smell good?
So how do I define it? I don't. Definitions are too constraining. It
grows and changes as do we.
Lynda
----- Original Message -----
From: <lite2yu@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 6:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] The "Hs" have it
> I loved reading how you have been influenced Lynda!! And I like knowing
how
> others define unschooling. . . in your own family. . . well, I guess
really
> more for yourself, how do you define it?
>
> Living in Abundance
> Mary
>
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>Which reminds me, I wasI don't know of *any* flowers that smell good on the net, Lynda. <G>
>suppose to be looking for blue flowers that smell good on the net.
Tia
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.
Eleanor Roosevelt
*********************************************
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leschke@...
On Vancouver Island
rumpleteasermom
Rachel says:
Blue Assylum
Delfinium
Canterberry bells
And she too has made the how can you tell what a digital flower smells
like joke.
Bridget
Blue Assylum
Delfinium
Canterberry bells
And she too has made the how can you tell what a digital flower smells
like joke.
Bridget
> >Which reminds me, I was
> >suppose to be looking for blue flowers that smell good on the net.
>
Lynda
It is all in their eyes, sometimes seems the wisdom of the ages, sometimes
the kindness of an angel and then again, sometimes little gremlins <g>
Lynda
the kindness of an angel and then again, sometimes little gremlins <g>
Lynda
----- Original Message -----
From: "TheQueen" <puddles@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:02 AM
Subject: RE: [Unschooling-dotcom] The "Hs" have it
> More "h's"..
>
> Helen wrote:
> <I remember my grandma once saying that a kid can
> learn a lot more worth knowing from a horse than from a teacher.>
>
> Lynda, that must be where you got all your knowledge, seeing as you're a
> Horse person :-)
> Sarah
>
> Sarah Carothers
> puddles@...
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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Lynda
What, you have never smelled a cyber bouquet? Do a goggle search for sweet
peas. Stare at the picture until it is imbedded in your mind. Now close
your eyes and breath deeply. Can't you smell them???
Lynda, who should probably go to bed now <g>
peas. Stare at the picture until it is imbedded in your mind. Now close
your eyes and breath deeply. Can't you smell them???
Lynda, who should probably go to bed now <g>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tia Leschke" <leschke@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] The "Hs" have it
>
> >Which reminds me, I was
> >suppose to be looking for blue flowers that smell good on the net.
>
> I don't know of *any* flowers that smell good on the net, Lynda. <G>
> Tia
>
> No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.
> Eleanor Roosevelt
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> leschke@...
> On Vancouver Island
>
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There are some salvia's that bloom blue that have interesting fragrance. .
.There is an Anise Salvia. . .I think the botantical name is Salvia gurantica
(not sure of spelling but its very close to that). My personal favortie would
be Indigo Spires but for the life of me I cannot remember the botanical name
on that one. I know I will think of more later. . . very much in a rush this
morning. . oops, afternoon!!
Living in Abundance
Mary
PS. I loved your description of your day Lynda!!
.There is an Anise Salvia. . .I think the botantical name is Salvia gurantica
(not sure of spelling but its very close to that). My personal favortie would
be Indigo Spires but for the life of me I cannot remember the botanical name
on that one. I know I will think of more later. . . very much in a rush this
morning. . oops, afternoon!!
Living in Abundance
Mary
PS. I loved your description of your day Lynda!!
[email protected]
In a message dated 3/20/02 10:58:33 PM Eastern Standard Time,
rumpleteasermom@... writes:
<< Rachel says:
Blue Assylum
Delfinium >>
:) Not to be too picky, but its Allysum. . .and Delphinium. . . just in case
she would need the correct spelling.
Living in Abundance
Mary
rumpleteasermom@... writes:
<< Rachel says:
Blue Assylum
Delfinium >>
:) Not to be too picky, but its Allysum. . .and Delphinium. . . just in case
she would need the correct spelling.
Living in Abundance
Mary
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In a message dated 3/21/02 4:14:36 AM Eastern Standard Time,
lurine@... writes:
<< Do a goggle search for sweet
peas. Stare at the picture until it is imbedded in your mind. Now close
your eyes and breath deeply. Can't you smell them??? >>
OH MY GOD YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My absolute favorite flower. We had a
difficult time growing them in the deep South. . some years were great. .
others not so great. I am really looking forward to growing them here in the
Northeast!!
Living in Abundance
Mary
lurine@... writes:
<< Do a goggle search for sweet
peas. Stare at the picture until it is imbedded in your mind. Now close
your eyes and breath deeply. Can't you smell them??? >>
OH MY GOD YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My absolute favorite flower. We had a
difficult time growing them in the deep South. . some years were great. .
others not so great. I am really looking forward to growing them here in the
Northeast!!
Living in Abundance
Mary
Tia Leschke
>What, you have never smelled a cyber bouquet? Do a goggle search for sweetDon't need the "goggle" search for that. I just have to picture them in my
>peas. Stare at the picture until it is imbedded in your mind. Now close
>your eyes and breath deeply. Can't you smell them???
head to smell them. <g>
Tia
>Lynda, who should probably go to bed now <g>No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.
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> > >Which reminds me, I was
> > >suppose to be looking for blue flowers that smell good on the net.
> >
> > I don't know of *any* flowers that smell good on the net, Lynda. <G>
> > Tia
> >
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Joseph Fuerst
> >Which reminds me, I wasSo now we'll explore dangling participles as our next "grammar lesson"
> >suppose to be looking for blue flowers that smell good on the net.
>
> I don't know of *any* flowers that smell good on the net, Lynda. <G>
> Tia
>
<ducking>
Susan ;-)
rumpleteasermom
Thanks for the corrections! We both thought they looked funny but
were too tired to look them up!
Bridget
were too tired to look them up!
Bridget
--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., lite2yu@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 3/20/02 10:58:33 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> rumpleteasermom@j... writes:
>
> << Rachel says:
> Blue Assylum
> Delfinium >>
>
> :) Not to be too picky, but its Allysum. . .and Delphinium. . . just
in case
> she would need the correct spelling.
>
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rumpleteasermom
Actually, I think that's a misplaced modifier. But I wouldn't even
swear to know my name today! Does anyone know if hot flashes cause
memory loss?
Bridget
swear to know my name today! Does anyone know if hot flashes cause
memory loss?
Bridget
--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., "Joseph Fuerst" <fuerst@f...> wrote:
> > >Which reminds me, I was
> > >suppose to be looking for blue flowers that smell good on the
net.
> >
> > I don't know of *any* flowers that smell good on the net, Lynda.
<G>
> > Tia
> >
> So now we'll explore dangling participles as our next "grammar
lesson"
> <ducking>
> Susan ;-)
Lynda
Neener, neener, neener <g> See I told you there were cyber-smelling flowers
<<<bewg>>>
Lynda
<<<bewg>>>
Lynda
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Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] The "Hs" have it
> In a message dated 3/21/02 4:14:36 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> lurine@... writes:
>
> << Do a goggle search for sweet
> peas. Stare at the picture until it is imbedded in your mind. Now close
> your eyes and breath deeply. Can't you smell them??? >>
>
> OH MY GOD YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My absolute favorite flower. We had a
> difficult time growing them in the deep South. . some years were great. .
> others not so great. I am really looking forward to growing them here in
the
> Northeast!!
>
> Living in Abundance
> Mary
>
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Why are you ducking Susan? Are you trying to get away from her or simply
hiding from her <g>
Lynda, who couldn't resist
hiding from her <g>
Lynda, who couldn't resist
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Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] The "Hs" have it
> > >Which reminds me, I was
> > >suppose to be looking for blue flowers that smell good on the net.
> >
> > I don't know of *any* flowers that smell good on the net, Lynda. <G>
> > Tia
> >
> So now we'll explore dangling participles as our next "grammar lesson"
> <ducking>
> Susan ;-)
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I don't even know what a dangling participle is or a misplaced modifier.
That's okay.
~Elissa Cleaveland
"It is nothing short of a miracle that the modern methods of instruction
have
not yet entirely strangled the holy curiosity of inquiry." A. Einstein
That's okay.
~Elissa Cleaveland
"It is nothing short of a miracle that the modern methods of instruction
have
not yet entirely strangled the holy curiosity of inquiry." A. Einstein
Tia Leschke
> > >Which reminds me, I wasSo that's what a dangling participle is. <g> Thanks.
> > >suppose to be looking for blue flowers that smell good on the net.
> >
> > I don't know of *any* flowers that smell good on the net, Lynda. <G>
> > Tia
> >
>So now we'll explore dangling participles as our next "grammar lesson"
><ducking>
Tia
>Susan ;-)No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.
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Tia Leschke
>Actually, I think that's a misplaced modifier. But I wouldn't evenMaybe not the hot flashes, but definitely that menopausal stuff. Does
>swear to know my name today! Does anyone know if hot flashes cause
>memory loss?
anybody else think it's really hot in here? <g>
Tia
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leschke@...
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TheQueen
<Maybe not the hot flashes, but definitely that menopausal stuff. Does
anybody else think it's really hot in here? <g>
Tia>
No, not hot but if I cry over any more posts ! :-(
Sarah Carothers
puddles@...
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anybody else think it's really hot in here? <g>
Tia>
No, not hot but if I cry over any more posts ! :-(
Sarah Carothers
puddles@...
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Joseph Fuerst
Well, I can appreciate your alliteration. :-) ...but I'm too busy trying
to catch up on this list to check it out further these days. I enjoy
finding those type mistakes in the newspaper. etc. 'Cause they're usually
funny.
Susan
to catch up on this list to check it out further these days. I enjoy
finding those type mistakes in the newspaper. etc. 'Cause they're usually
funny.
Susan
> Actually, I think that's a **misplaced modifier.** But I wouldn't even
> swear to know my name today! Does anyone know if hot flashes cause
> memory loss?
>
> Bridget
>
> --- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., "Joseph Fuerst" <fuerst@f...> wrote:
> > > >Which reminds me, I was
> > > >suppose to be looking for blue flowers that smell good on the
> net.
> > >
> > > I don't know of *any* flowers that smell good on the net, Lynda.
> <G>
> > > Tia
> > >
> > So now we'll explore dangling participles as our next "grammar
> lesson"
> > <ducking>
> > Susan ;-)
>
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>>No, not hot but if I cry over any more posts����! :-(Is that why your addy is "puddles..."? ;-)
>
>Sarah Carothers
>puddles@...>>
Life is good.
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Is that why your addy is "puddles..."? ;-)
Life is good.
~Mary (Who also feels those flashes coming on. Oh wait, maybe that's flash
backs.)>
Hi Mary,
Puddles came about because we had acquired a new puppy (Jenni.. golden
retriever) and she left little puddles all over the place :(. Also, after
giving birth to a 10+ lb baby, I can create a few 'puddles' myself when I
sneeze ( I can't stand allergy season!). So the kidlets were making fun
about the problem the puppy and I share and the name just evolved. My 'real'
nickname is Queenie and it came about because some friends, realizing I
needed a boost, delegated me to that imaginary status. Being an imaginary
position, I also acquired imaginary 'power' worth about the size of this
dot--> . It's been amazing to see how some people see the name and assume I
have a superiority complex %-/ when, in fact, it is quite the opposite.
Sarah Carothers
puddles@...
Is that why your addy is "puddles..."? ;-)
Life is good.
~Mary (Who also feels those flashes coming on. Oh wait, maybe that's flash
backs.)>
Hi Mary,
Puddles came about because we had acquired a new puppy (Jenni.. golden
retriever) and she left little puddles all over the place :(. Also, after
giving birth to a 10+ lb baby, I can create a few 'puddles' myself when I
sneeze ( I can't stand allergy season!). So the kidlets were making fun
about the problem the puppy and I share and the name just evolved. My 'real'
nickname is Queenie and it came about because some friends, realizing I
needed a boost, delegated me to that imaginary status. Being an imaginary
position, I also acquired imaginary 'power' worth about the size of this
dot--> . It's been amazing to see how some people see the name and assume I
have a superiority complex %-/ when, in fact, it is quite the opposite.
Sarah Carothers
puddles@...