Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] thankyou
Faith Mills
thankyou.....yes, she is NOT thriving in that type of environment..I think
she would do well at a smaller setting .No!!! I didn't take her out of
school...she is underage and i have been sending her out to school each
morning at the same time as usual although SHE keeps leaving because she
can't seem to cope with the environment.there is a lot of violence . She is
smart..but because she keeps leaving the building she is receiving low marks
and not getting her credits. I have talked with counsellers from her school
and they are not offering me anything except one program which is only
temporary( then she would go back to the big environment, yet it is full and
so u cant get in anyway. They do offer that she could go to court...but
nothing would be done( they told me this) as a result of her missing
school...only thing possibly is a charge...which parents would have to pay.
But... they have done nothing anyway. So.. she is sent by me out to school
but doesnt stay. thats the predicament and she is not yet sixteen till next
november. thanks everyone. :) Faith
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she would do well at a smaller setting .No!!! I didn't take her out of
school...she is underage and i have been sending her out to school each
morning at the same time as usual although SHE keeps leaving because she
can't seem to cope with the environment.there is a lot of violence . She is
smart..but because she keeps leaving the building she is receiving low marks
and not getting her credits. I have talked with counsellers from her school
and they are not offering me anything except one program which is only
temporary( then she would go back to the big environment, yet it is full and
so u cant get in anyway. They do offer that she could go to court...but
nothing would be done( they told me this) as a result of her missing
school...only thing possibly is a charge...which parents would have to pay.
But... they have done nothing anyway. So.. she is sent by me out to school
but doesnt stay. thats the predicament and she is not yet sixteen till next
november. thanks everyone. :) Faith
>From: "Sarah Carothers" <puddles@...>_________________________________________________________________
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Intro and question
>Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 11:49:49 -0500
>
>Hello Faith,
>glad you found the list... we need more teen parents here :-).
>I have a 15 yr old daughter and there are several others here with teens
>(boys and girls).
> I'm not sure of your question, so I'll restate what you said how I
>interpreted it.
>You dd is not happy at school & isn't thriving in that environment.
>You have taken her out but don't know what to do next.
>Do you know what your local laws are that you would fall under? (do you
>have to sign up with a charter school? do you have to test her annually?..
>.that sort of thing).
>There are plenty of places to gather that type of information and I'm sure
>some can provide links for you. If you are thinking along the lines of
>changing your whole outlook on learning and the goals your teen has, this
>would be the place to hang out and ask questions.
>Sincerely,
>Sarah
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Faith Mills
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 11:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Intro and question
>
>
>
>
> Hello....someone told me about this list. I'm from Ontario, Canada. I'm
>not
> sure if some of you have teenagers also out of school or if this list is
>for
> younger kids out of school, but I have a fifteen yr. old daughter whom
>does
> not do well in the highschool system and has been leaving because
> emotionally she seems to not be coping, lots of circumstances of
>violence
> from students and the toleration of it.. ..she is afraid to go, yet she
>is
> not sixteen yet . Can anyone offer any substitute programs as the school
>is
> not offering me much help. Kind of at my wits end. thankyou all Faith
>
>
>
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>
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Nichoel
Hi Faith,
I have not read these links but they are ones that I found rather quickly
that may or may not be of help to you, they do seem to outline some support
groups in Ontario as well as the legalities of homeschooling there:
http://homeschooling.about.com/cs/canont/
http://www.gomilpitas.com/homeschooling/regional/Ontario.htm
http://www.hwcn.org/Information/education/hsrp/
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I have not read these links but they are ones that I found rather quickly
that may or may not be of help to you, they do seem to outline some support
groups in Ontario as well as the legalities of homeschooling there:
http://homeschooling.about.com/cs/canont/
http://www.gomilpitas.com/homeschooling/regional/Ontario.htm
http://www.hwcn.org/Information/education/hsrp/
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Faith Mills" <jcsdaughter33@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] thankyou
>
> thankyou.....yes, she is NOT thriving in that type of environment..I think
> she would do well at a smaller setting .No!!! I didn't take her out of
> school...she is underage and i have been sending her out to school each
> morning at the same time as usual although SHE keeps leaving because she
> can't seem to cope with the environment.there is a lot of violence . She
is
> smart..but because she keeps leaving the building she is receiving low
marks
> and not getting her credits. I have talked with counsellers from her
school
> and they are not offering me anything except one program which is only
> temporary( then she would go back to the big environment, yet it is full
and
> so u cant get in anyway. They do offer that she could go to court...but
> nothing would be done( they told me this) as a result of her missing
> school...only thing possibly is a charge...which parents would have to
pay.
> But... they have done nothing anyway. So.. she is sent by me out to school
> but doesnt stay. thats the predicament and she is not yet sixteen till
next
> november. thanks everyone. :) Faith
>
>
> >From: "Sarah Carothers" <puddles@...>
> >Reply-To: [email protected]
> >To: <[email protected]>
> >Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Intro and question
> >Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 11:49:49 -0500
> >
> >Hello Faith,
> >glad you found the list... we need more teen parents here :-).
> >I have a 15 yr old daughter and there are several others here with teens
> >(boys and girls).
> > I'm not sure of your question, so I'll restate what you said how I
> >interpreted it.
> >You dd is not happy at school & isn't thriving in that environment.
> >You have taken her out but don't know what to do next.
> >Do you know what your local laws are that you would fall under? (do you
> >have to sign up with a charter school? do you have to test her
annually?..
> >.that sort of thing).
> >There are plenty of places to gather that type of information and I'm
sure
> >some can provide links for you. If you are thinking along the lines of
> >changing your whole outlook on learning and the goals your teen has, this
> >would be the place to hang out and ask questions.
> >Sincerely,
> >Sarah
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Faith Mills
> > To: [email protected]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 11:41 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Intro and question
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello....someone told me about this list. I'm from Ontario, Canada.
I'm
> >not
> > sure if some of you have teenagers also out of school or if this list
is
> >for
> > younger kids out of school, but I have a fifteen yr. old daughter whom
> >does
> > not do well in the highschool system and has been leaving because
> > emotionally she seems to not be coping, lots of circumstances of
> >violence
> > from students and the toleration of it.. ..she is afraid to go, yet
she
> >is
> > not sixteen yet . Can anyone offer any substitute programs as the
school
> >is
> > not offering me much help. Kind of at my wits end. thankyou all Faith
> >
> >
> >
> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
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Here's another one I missed in the last email
http://www.ontariohomeschool.org/
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Faith Mills" <jcsdaughter33@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] thankyou
>
> thankyou.....yes, she is NOT thriving in that type of environment..I think
> she would do well at a smaller setting .No!!! I didn't take her out of
> school...she is underage and i have been sending her out to school each
> morning at the same time as usual although SHE keeps leaving because she
> can't seem to cope with the environment.there is a lot of violence . She
is
> smart..but because she keeps leaving the building she is receiving low
marks
> and not getting her credits. I have talked with counsellers from her
school
> and they are not offering me anything except one program which is only
> temporary( then she would go back to the big environment, yet it is full
and
> so u cant get in anyway. They do offer that she could go to court...but
> nothing would be done( they told me this) as a result of her missing
> school...only thing possibly is a charge...which parents would have to
pay.
> But... they have done nothing anyway. So.. she is sent by me out to school
> but doesnt stay. thats the predicament and she is not yet sixteen till
next
> november. thanks everyone. :) Faith
>
>
> >From: "Sarah Carothers" <puddles@...>
> >Reply-To: [email protected]
> >To: <[email protected]>
> >Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Intro and question
> >Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 11:49:49 -0500
> >
> >Hello Faith,
> >glad you found the list... we need more teen parents here :-).
> >I have a 15 yr old daughter and there are several others here with teens
> >(boys and girls).
> > I'm not sure of your question, so I'll restate what you said how I
> >interpreted it.
> >You dd is not happy at school & isn't thriving in that environment.
> >You have taken her out but don't know what to do next.
> >Do you know what your local laws are that you would fall under? (do you
> >have to sign up with a charter school? do you have to test her
annually?..
> >.that sort of thing).
> >There are plenty of places to gather that type of information and I'm
sure
> >some can provide links for you. If you are thinking along the lines of
> >changing your whole outlook on learning and the goals your teen has, this
> >would be the place to hang out and ask questions.
> >Sincerely,
> >Sarah
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Faith Mills
> > To: [email protected]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 11:41 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Intro and question
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello....someone told me about this list. I'm from Ontario, Canada.
I'm
> >not
> > sure if some of you have teenagers also out of school or if this list
is
> >for
> > younger kids out of school, but I have a fifteen yr. old daughter whom
> >does
> > not do well in the highschool system and has been leaving because
> > emotionally she seems to not be coping, lots of circumstances of
> >violence
> > from students and the toleration of it.. ..she is afraid to go, yet
she
> >is
> > not sixteen yet . Can anyone offer any substitute programs as the
school
> >is
> > not offering me much help. Kind of at my wits end. thankyou all Faith
> >
> >
> >
> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
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Sarah Carothers
Wow, Faith.. you're in between a rock and a hard place.:(
It is *never* too late to start unschooling and even though that isn't what
you've initially started out to find, that is where you are!
Once you have gone over the legal requirements and know your options, you
may want to consider the bigger picture and that is that learning is a
life-long process and something that won't end at any particular age. With
that in mind, it might be helpful to quickly read up on what other kids have
done (I'd suggest Real Lives by Grace Lewellyn once again <g>). From there,
you can talk with your daughter about how her education is just that...
*her* choices and responsibility and find out what she is interested in. If
she's been in a school setting all this time, she might not have any idea
what she's passionate about.
I guess the main thing is that you need to try to meet your legal
requirements (imo) yet not just purchase some curriculum recommended to you
and have her plow through it. It sounds like she's a bright girl so trust
her to make some choices about what she wants to study and go from there...
Sarah
It is *never* too late to start unschooling and even though that isn't what
you've initially started out to find, that is where you are!
Once you have gone over the legal requirements and know your options, you
may want to consider the bigger picture and that is that learning is a
life-long process and something that won't end at any particular age. With
that in mind, it might be helpful to quickly read up on what other kids have
done (I'd suggest Real Lives by Grace Lewellyn once again <g>). From there,
you can talk with your daughter about how her education is just that...
*her* choices and responsibility and find out what she is interested in. If
she's been in a school setting all this time, she might not have any idea
what she's passionate about.
I guess the main thing is that you need to try to meet your legal
requirements (imo) yet not just purchase some curriculum recommended to you
and have her plow through it. It sounds like she's a bright girl so trust
her to make some choices about what she wants to study and go from there...
Sarah
Tia Leschke
>Hi Faith,And the Canadian Homeschool Resource Page:
>I have not read these links but they are ones that I found rather quickly
>that may or may not be of help to you, they do seem to outline some support
>groups in Ontario as well as the legalities of homeschooling there:
>
>http://homeschooling.about.com/cs/canont/
>
>http://www.gomilpitas.com/homeschooling/regional/Ontario.htm
>
>http://www.hwcn.org/Information/education/hsrp/
http://www.flora.org/homeschool-ca/
Tia
While this is a good list, you might want to join a Canadian list for
Canadian content. Send a blank message to [email protected]
Another chatty bunch, but ask a question and you'll get answers. There's
also a Canadian unschooling list. Send a blank message to
[email protected]
If you join either of those, you'll see me there. %^) I have a 14 year
old boy who has never been to school.
Tia
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.
Eleanor Roosevelt
*********************************************
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