Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Breeding animals
Kolleen
>> We breed lots of animals and we have a plan for the babies. We areThats a whole other issue. Its the way of the land, and I respect that.
>> currently breeding rabbits and goats. If we can't sell the babies, we
>> eat
>> them. Problem solved.
>>
>> Julie
For years, until organic and humanely killed meat was more easily
available, I would only eat what my family hunted. Luckily between my
brother and my nieces husband I was able to fill the freezer and have
what I needed.
Of course hearing the hunting horror stories about the careless idiots
that didn't bother to track what they hit or was only hunting for a
trophy was appalling as well.
I think this thread brought up issues like breeding animals for
experimentation.. which I haven't seen any evidence of any great results
from the hoards of torture that has been going on for the past 50 or so
years.
Kolleen
Julie Stauffer
We breed lots of animals and we have a plan for the babies. We are
currently breeding rabbits and goats. If we can't sell the babies, we eat
them. Problem solved.
Julie
currently breeding rabbits and goats. If we can't sell the babies, we eat
them. Problem solved.
Julie
Julie Stauffer
<<finding good farm homes for feral cats>>
The only Christian family I know that live traps feral cats uses them for
dissection lessons.
Julie
The only Christian family I know that live traps feral cats uses them for
dissection lessons.
Julie
Julie Stauffer
<<the same rules apply when adopting a child for the first few years or so,
why not an animal?>>
This is incorrect. Prior to finalizing an adoption, the placing agency is
still responsible for the welfare of the child. The agency, the family, or
the child, if old enough, is able to terminate that placement. It is a get
to know each other time. The instant of the finalization, family becomes
totally responsible for the child and all supervision by the agency ceases.
I can see shelters being concerned about the welfare of an animal. A more
appropriate rule I think would be say a 1 month trial period, during which
the shelter or the owner could return the animal to the shelter and the
owner get their money back.
Julie--who isn't crazy about big brother either
why not an animal?>>
This is incorrect. Prior to finalizing an adoption, the placing agency is
still responsible for the welfare of the child. The agency, the family, or
the child, if old enough, is able to terminate that placement. It is a get
to know each other time. The instant of the finalization, family becomes
totally responsible for the child and all supervision by the agency ceases.
I can see shelters being concerned about the welfare of an animal. A more
appropriate rule I think would be say a 1 month trial period, during which
the shelter or the owner could return the animal to the shelter and the
owner get their money back.
Julie--who isn't crazy about big brother either
Lynda
Here in several of the Northern California counties there are groups that
are working hard to eliminate or at least reduce the ferel cat populations.
they trap them, neuter them and then find ranchers that will allow them to
be turned loose on their land. There is one sheep ranch on the coast in
Sonoma County that has taken a couple hundred of the cats. Of course, he
has several thousand acres, so they aren't a problem for him.
There is also a group in Santa Rosa who has been trapping the ferel cats
that run around the city (the city is built over several creeks that have
been routed through underground canals), neutering them and then turning
them back loose right in the city.
Lynda
are working hard to eliminate or at least reduce the ferel cat populations.
they trap them, neuter them and then find ranchers that will allow them to
be turned loose on their land. There is one sheep ranch on the coast in
Sonoma County that has taken a couple hundred of the cats. Of course, he
has several thousand acres, so they aren't a problem for him.
There is also a group in Santa Rosa who has been trapping the ferel cats
that run around the city (the city is built over several creeks that have
been routed through underground canals), neutering them and then turning
them back loose right in the city.
Lynda
----- Original Message -----
From: Julie Stauffer <jnjstau@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 3:27 PM
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] Breeding animals
> <<finding good farm homes for feral cats>>
>
> The only Christian family I know that live traps feral cats uses them for
> dissection lessons.
>
> Julie
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groundhoggirl
Yummy! I love rabbit stew!
Julie, I appreciate your bluntness very much. You tell it the way it is
for you.
Having been brought up in the city and suburbs, I don't think I could
bring myself to kill a little rabbit, however. I have been too far
removed from nature and the farming life to have the experiences you
speak about, Julie. One of my best friends grew up on a farm in
Indiana. She is full of wonderful stories of how her family made a
living. They grow their own food and raise their own animals to sell
and feed themselves.
This has been going on for thousands of years. We are carnivorous
mammals. If you don't believe me, look at your teeth in the mirror.
Of course, we can sustain ourselves on soy products, vegetables, fruits,
nuts, etc., as I did as a vegan for several years. But, I prefer to
follow my more natural desire and inclinations which is to eat meat. I
don't believe in suppressing anything, and that includes my desire to
eat other living beings. It is a very natural thing for us to do.
Isn't that what other carnivorous animals do? We are at the top of the
food chain and we should not be ashamed of it.
Mimi
(Who has rescued at least 5 dogs, 20 cats and 3 birds.) No, I didn't
eat them. In the cultures which I grew up in, we don't eat dogs, cats
or sparrows. Well, actually, I do have an old friend, an old Greek guy
who I once saw steal baby sparrows out of their nest. He took them
home, pickled them and ate them. This same man was a little boy during
WWII on a Greek island occupied by the Germans. He told me many stories
of how so many Greeks starved to death during the war and how he
remembered eating grass roots to stay alive. He saw these birds as a
treat and a delicacy. I wasn't about to judge him, even though I was a
vegetarian at the time.
Julie, I appreciate your bluntness very much. You tell it the way it is
for you.
Having been brought up in the city and suburbs, I don't think I could
bring myself to kill a little rabbit, however. I have been too far
removed from nature and the farming life to have the experiences you
speak about, Julie. One of my best friends grew up on a farm in
Indiana. She is full of wonderful stories of how her family made a
living. They grow their own food and raise their own animals to sell
and feed themselves.
This has been going on for thousands of years. We are carnivorous
mammals. If you don't believe me, look at your teeth in the mirror.
Of course, we can sustain ourselves on soy products, vegetables, fruits,
nuts, etc., as I did as a vegan for several years. But, I prefer to
follow my more natural desire and inclinations which is to eat meat. I
don't believe in suppressing anything, and that includes my desire to
eat other living beings. It is a very natural thing for us to do.
Isn't that what other carnivorous animals do? We are at the top of the
food chain and we should not be ashamed of it.
Mimi
(Who has rescued at least 5 dogs, 20 cats and 3 birds.) No, I didn't
eat them. In the cultures which I grew up in, we don't eat dogs, cats
or sparrows. Well, actually, I do have an old friend, an old Greek guy
who I once saw steal baby sparrows out of their nest. He took them
home, pickled them and ate them. This same man was a little boy during
WWII on a Greek island occupied by the Germans. He told me many stories
of how so many Greeks starved to death during the war and how he
remembered eating grass roots to stay alive. He saw these birds as a
treat and a delicacy. I wasn't about to judge him, even though I was a
vegetarian at the time.
On Sunday, December 16, 2001, at 05:23 PM, Julie Stauffer wrote:
> We breed lots of animals and we have a plan for the babies. We are
> currently breeding rabbits and goats. If we can't sell the babies, we
> eat
> them. Problem solved.
>
> Julie
>
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