spare the rod
Kolleen
'Spare the rod, spoil the child'
While I couldn't find one of the translations that I ran across some time
ago, I found what seems to be a collectively more popular POV from
experienced moms and people with translations backgrounds. I waded
through quite a few and found one that had the most concise info, along
with backing up its statements with support. Great debate material!!
http://silcon.com/~ptave/maurer3.htm
Here's the summary:
CONCLUSIONS
There is no authority in the Bible for the corporal punishment of
children with rod or otherwise, except in the Proverbs of Solomon. It is
only Solomon who recommends child-beating. Never the Lord.
Solomon's child-rearing methods worked very badly for his own son,
Prince Rehoboam. Solomon has an undeserved reputation for wisdom. In
reality, he left his country oppressed and impoverished. In his later
years, he turned to idol worship and practiced "the abominations of
Chemosh and Moloch".
There is no support for he beating of youth outside of Solomon's
Proverbs. Solomon's views are controverted both by Jesus and the Apostle
John.
Paul warned Fathers against the anger and resentment that might be
aroused in their children by corporal punishments. The way of love was
better.
St. Paul deplored the punishment of youth by human fathers who
chastised youth "for their own pleasure". Only divine chastisements were
righteous.
Jesus and John saw children as being close to God and urged love
rather than fear in education.
If a Christian henceforth grabs for a rod or a paddle because "the
Bible says so", he is heeding the words of an idol-worshipping king,
rather than the words of Christ.
REFERENCES
1. Encyclopedia Britannica. XVth Edition (1974) The Bible
2. Oxford Dictionary, Oxford University Press, Oxford England,
Twentieth Printing (1981)
3. Gibson, Ian, The English Vice, Duckworth Ltd., London, 1978
4. Ford, Donald, "The Child as a Legal Entity" in The Maltreatment
of Children, Edited by Selwyn Smith, University Park Press,
Baltimore, Md. (1978) p. 403
5. Wordsworth, William, Intimations of Immortality, 1806
While I couldn't find one of the translations that I ran across some time
ago, I found what seems to be a collectively more popular POV from
experienced moms and people with translations backgrounds. I waded
through quite a few and found one that had the most concise info, along
with backing up its statements with support. Great debate material!!
http://silcon.com/~ptave/maurer3.htm
Here's the summary:
CONCLUSIONS
There is no authority in the Bible for the corporal punishment of
children with rod or otherwise, except in the Proverbs of Solomon. It is
only Solomon who recommends child-beating. Never the Lord.
Solomon's child-rearing methods worked very badly for his own son,
Prince Rehoboam. Solomon has an undeserved reputation for wisdom. In
reality, he left his country oppressed and impoverished. In his later
years, he turned to idol worship and practiced "the abominations of
Chemosh and Moloch".
There is no support for he beating of youth outside of Solomon's
Proverbs. Solomon's views are controverted both by Jesus and the Apostle
John.
Paul warned Fathers against the anger and resentment that might be
aroused in their children by corporal punishments. The way of love was
better.
St. Paul deplored the punishment of youth by human fathers who
chastised youth "for their own pleasure". Only divine chastisements were
righteous.
Jesus and John saw children as being close to God and urged love
rather than fear in education.
If a Christian henceforth grabs for a rod or a paddle because "the
Bible says so", he is heeding the words of an idol-worshipping king,
rather than the words of Christ.
REFERENCES
1. Encyclopedia Britannica. XVth Edition (1974) The Bible
2. Oxford Dictionary, Oxford University Press, Oxford England,
Twentieth Printing (1981)
3. Gibson, Ian, The English Vice, Duckworth Ltd., London, 1978
4. Ford, Donald, "The Child as a Legal Entity" in The Maltreatment
of Children, Edited by Selwyn Smith, University Park Press,
Baltimore, Md. (1978) p. 403
5. Wordsworth, William, Intimations of Immortality, 1806
Sharon Rudd
Hi Kolleen....I never tried to look it all up
before...Thanks....."Suffer the little children..."
didn't sound like beating to me......
However I'm not a Christain....but if I haven't drunk
of the Water it is not becuase it hasn't been
opffered. Perhaps it is becuase the Water is so often
poluted.
Thanks again.
Sharon
ps I spoil my children as much as I am able!!! And
will the grands, too and any others that come my
way!!!
--- Kolleen <Kolleen@...> wrote:
If a Christian henceforth grabs for a rod or a
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before...Thanks....."Suffer the little children..."
didn't sound like beating to me......
However I'm not a Christain....but if I haven't drunk
of the Water it is not becuase it hasn't been
opffered. Perhaps it is becuase the Water is so often
poluted.
Thanks again.
Sharon
ps I spoil my children as much as I am able!!! And
will the grands, too and any others that come my
way!!!
--- Kolleen <Kolleen@...> wrote:
If a Christian henceforth grabs for a rod or a
> paddle because "the__________________________________________________
> Bible says so", he is heeding the words of an
> idol-worshipping king,
> rather than the words of Christ.
>
> REFERENCES
> 1. Encyclopedia Britannica. XVth Edition
> (1974) The Bible
> 2. Oxford Dictionary, Oxford University Press,
> Oxford England,
> Twentieth Printing (1981)
> 3. Gibson, Ian, The English Vice, Duckworth
> Ltd., London, 1978
> 4. Ford, Donald, "The Child as a Legal Entity"
> in The Maltreatment
> of Children, Edited by Selwyn Smith, University Park
> Press,
> Baltimore, Md. (1978) p. 403
> 5. Wordsworth, William, Intimations of
> Immortality, 1806
>
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