Laura Wilder

hi there,

de-lurking for a bit to say that there are alot of
folks who have food
allergies/problems/reactions/addictions out there.
Some know or suspect their problems, and are working
on it. Some deny everything in themselves and others.

The main way to deal with anything that's bothering
you is to be open to listening to your own experiences
with it, whether anyone else agrees with you or not.
By that I mean that if everytime you have milk you get
stuffed up, digestive pain, and asthma trouble, but if
you avoid milk you feel fine, then it is real and true
for you. It really doesn't matter what anyone else
swears is true, or if they think you're a weak minded
fool. The fact is for you it is true that you
personally will be better to avoid milk.

I used to think that was hogwash until I actually
listened to my own body and got rid of dairy. Now I
can see so many others who suffer like I did, but also
deny the possibility because they've been brainwashed
that dairy is the food of the gods or something.
They'll put tubes surgically in their infant's ears
(to stop the frequent ear infections that just
happened to start about the same time that the baby
went on milk),or have their own sinus scraped rather
than try giving up dairy.

Wheat makes me feel drugged, yet it is the basis for
most of the American diet. I wonder how many others
feel like I do, but haven't isolated the cause.
They're so used to it they don't even see the
connection. If you mention it though, they think your
certifiable.

If everytime I see my kids eat dairy they get sick, is
it child abuse to let them eat whatever they want to?
I think it is wise to help them learn the connection
between the chemicals they ingest, and the reactions
of their body.

There is no food that is so sacred or important that
is is not possible that it causes a person trouble.
Wheat and dairy are the basics of the American diet.
If you have any doubt about that just try to avoid
them for a month, and see how you feel. If they are
not addictive, then why is it so hard to give them up?
I think the addiction to "comfort foods" (mood
altering foods) is one reason for the obesity
epidemic. Hard to get enough of the drug that is
killing you.

Health is not about what foods are eaten by everybody
else, it is about how you treat your own body and
listen to how you feel, not to everyone else.

So I must have missed what the point was about not
wanting to control what your kids eat. I do try to
control what my kids eat by only buying things for the
house that are good for them personally. No foods that
I'd have to say no to. No junk, no "treats", no candy.
Why have it in the house then complain that that's all
they want to eat? Demonstrate that we all can control
what we eat by only buying good stuff for ourselves.
If I take my health and theirs seriously they do too.

I don't control how much, when, or how, they eat. It's
all healthy stuff so I don't care when or what. I do
care where because it's easier to get the table clean
than the bed, and I care a little about how because I
want them to know about table manners in a general
way.

Sorry for the parts of this post that are critical of
other's decisions, but if they made you mad then take
a look at the food that you hold sacred and ask
yourself if you can live without it. It your answer is
no than you are addicted, and it is possibly causing
you problems. Try to be scientific about it and test
the theory. Avoid it for a month or two then re-test.
Try it with your kids. Use it as another unschooling
"lesson" about body chemistry and food families.

For people who object to my use of the word addiction,
can you truthfully call it anything else? Is
alcoholism just a habit? Is smoking only something the
smoker enjoys but feels no real physical cravings for?
Im talking about real addiction here to chemicals the
brain needs that it gets from certain foods. Chocolate
is a good example that honest folks can relate to,
very calming for many. Why is dairy (ice cream, pizza,
macaroni and cheese, buttered popcorn) such a favorite
food for so many? It affects the brain.

Gotta run,

let me know what you think, won't you?

Kathy B.

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<< If they are
not addictive, then why is it so hard to give them up? >>

But you could say that about water and sleep and being with other people.
It would be hard for me to give up being with my kids.

<<Is
alcoholism just a habit? Is smoking only something the
smoker enjoys but feels no real physical cravings for?>>

Nobody at my house smokes. I bought cheap bourbon yesterday to make a fruit
cake. I had a margarita last month. No addictions.

Beans and tortillas are super-common here. I don't think people are addicted
to them, I just think they're cheap and common local comfort foods.

All humans eat some kind of bread. Have we been bread addicts for a
thousands of years?

Maybe addiction is too strong a word to use for every single thing people
like and need.

Sandra

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Tia Leschke

>
>Wheat and dairy are the basics of the American diet.
>If you have any doubt about that just try to avoid
>them for a month, and see how you feel. If they are
>not addictive, then why is it so hard to give them up?
>I think the addiction to "comfort foods" (mood
>altering foods) is one reason for the obesity
>epidemic. Hard to get enough of the drug that is
>killing you.

Up to here, I agreed with you, and the addiction factor is certainly there
for a lot of people. But another reason that it's hard to give them up is
that it's so hard to find anything to eat (especially away from home) that
doesn't have one or both in them.


>Health is not about what foods are eaten by everybody
>else, it is about how you treat your own body and
>listen to how you feel, not to everyone else.

Definitely with you here.


>Sorry for the parts of this post that are critical of
>other's decisions, but if they made you mad then take
>a look at the food that you hold sacred and ask
>yourself if you can live without it. It your answer is
>no than you are addicted, and it is possibly causing
>you problems. Try to be scientific about it and test
>the theory. Avoid it for a month or two then re-test.

The reason I know how hard it is to find foods without wheat or milk is
because I've done just that. There was no difference in my health that I
could see. (Actually I went off a lot more things than that, and I was
actually hoping that there *would* be a difference.)
Tia

Tia Leschke leschke@...
On Vancouver Island
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Kathy

Hi Tia,

I agree that wheat and dairy are very hard to avoid at first when
trying to eat out. I have good luck with plain salads (bring your own
dressing), plain baked potatoes (I really like ketchup on mine), and
tostadas. Asian and Indian foods are also often tasty and safe for me.
I was wondering how long you avoided wheat and dairy, and why you went
back. I understand how tiring it is to go against the norm.

Kathy B.



--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., Tia Leschke <leschke@i...> wrote:
>
>
> The reason I know how hard it is to find foods without wheat or milk is
> because I've done just that. There was no difference in my health that I
> could see. (Actually I went off a lot more things than that, and I was
> actually hoping that there *would* be a difference.)
> Tia
>
> Tia Leschke leschke@i...
> On Vancouver Island

> Levy

Tia Leschke

At 07:51 PM 11/18/01 +0000, you wrote:
>Hi Tia,
>
>I agree that wheat and dairy are very hard to avoid at first when
>trying to eat out. I have good luck with plain salads (bring your own
>dressing), plain baked potatoes (I really like ketchup on mine), and
>tostadas. Asian and Indian foods are also often tasty and safe for me.
>I was wondering how long you avoided wheat and dairy, and why you went
>back. I understand how tiring it is to go against the norm.

I went off sugar, coffee, milk, wheat, oats, soy, and I think a couple of
other things for a couple of months. I was looking for fibromyalgia
relief, which I didn't find on that path. If I had noticed a difference in
the way I felt, I would have continued. As it was, it wasn't worth it.
Tia

Tia Leschke leschke@...
On Vancouver Island
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