[email protected]

In a message dated 10/24/01 6:20:29 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:

<< Fifteen hours on a plane? Yikes. I'm assuming, then, that it's an
international flight, and those are really even safer...


No it takes 12 hours (before) from airport to airport to airport to
airport. It is hell. I have tried non stops and hops neither is great. non
stops are actually worse. I have also tried many different times of day. My
dd has been traveling since she was 6 months old. It was actually easier
then,even when I was stuck in JFK for 6 hours extra.If that happened at 5 I
would probably have a break down.



> Also if something did happen I have
> an incredibly sensitive child who would never get on a plane again.

I have an incredibly sensitive child, and it's been a real learning
experience for me. Five was a hard year for her, as was six... but one
thing I realized was that my expectations often had a lot to do with her
responses.

5 is much more of a challenge than I thought it would be. Though some of
her issues have gotten less intense. Thankfully.

bit in the face by my parents' previously traumatized
dog, for no reason that we can figure - he's done this before, although
not for a long time, he fear-bites and we haven't figured out the
trigger. It was pretty scary, for a good 20 minutes she just sat there in
shock with my arms around her, then finally she relaxed enough to lean
back onto me, and it took over an hour before she really came around. But
two hours after it happened, she called the dog over and patted his head
and forgave him - she does love this dog, and he does love him.

It is evolved for her to forgive, but I would never let my child play w/
a dog who bit. Fear or not.

>>And yeah, most people might think they should get rid of this dog, but
it's not gonna happen...

Then when my child came over the dog would have to be put in another room.
I have seen what dog bites can do. No way.

> Also in
> my grocery store I doubt I will see another being subdued. Small
> town living.
>

:-) The town we actually live in permanently is too small to even have a
grocery store, but stuff happens everywhere..

Very true.
________________________

[email protected]

In a message dated 10/24/01 6:20:29 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:

<< And I have 5 kids under 11 yo, and still refuse to be restricted in my
activities.
>>

Great. But this is one thing I am not willing to bend on. Plus I do not
want to be stuck in PA.

NICKI~

[email protected]

In a message dated 10/24/01 6:20:29 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:

<< So, *finally* my reason for posting: how do the rest of you negotiate your
family lives? Are gender roles a concern at all in your unschooling? Mostly
moms are on these lists -- any dads or other men on this list who can respond
from your point of view?
>>


Well, I am a SAHM and my dh is a building contractor. Very typical gender
stereotype. But I am in no way miss homemaker. DD wants to work w/ daddy when
she gets older. She goes w/ him now when I go away climbing or even for short
times when I need to go somewhere. She has been involved in meetings, and she
has witnessed 2 firings. Last night she was painting and helping dh use the
finish nailer in our remodel project. Also she wants to race motorcycles.
Then again she wants to ride like mommy and moans for a pony daily. I believe
she is right in the middle thanks to us. I was too though. My mother was
single by the time I was 2 and had many an odd job for a woman esp. in the
70s. The worst she says was being on the pipecrew. That is underground laying
of pipe for water works.

I have noticed dd has many questions about gender typing though. She can
not understand why they don't make ScoobyDo (sp?) underwear for her. Some one
said they do but I can't find them. She does notice and I explain. I have
also had to explain how 2 women and 2 men have children together.The other
night dh had to explain why most men do mot wear skirts but some do. Also why
men stand to pee is a huge topic. I have tried to explain a woman can too but
she is skeptical.:o)

Enough.

NICKI~

[email protected]

In a message dated 10/24/01 6:20:29 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:

<< am glad to hear from someone who knows the percentage of money that goes
to actual people in need....I have similar reasons for being anti-United
Way.....actually I have MORE reasons for being anti-Untioed Way :-)



Why is this? I like to be informed. Now I am bummed I kept putting money
in the Red Cross boxes all this time.

NICKI~

Cleopatra Rojas

Hi Chris, Kathryn
Jacli here :)
Just wanted to thankyou for the link to FEMA and the info
on Red Cross, my husband has long
had his doubts about them. Least now I know the truth.
Also thanks to
Kathryn for the info on Salvation Army. I didn't know that
stuff either.

thanks, Jacli

*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********

On 10/24/2001 at 12:18 PM
[email protected] wrote:

>>
>> Not a fan of the Red Cross, myself. FEMA - the Federal
Emergency
>> Management Agency - has a full listing of ways to
prepare and lists
>> of supplies as well as how to assess your needs on its
Community and
>> Family Preparedness web page.
http://www.fema.gov/pte/cfp.htm
>> in peace,
>>
>> Chris O'Connor
>
>Keep in mind that the Salvation Army is a conservative
religious organization
>that is very anti-gay. If that's not a problem for you, go
for it. It is for
>me and my family.
>
>Kathryn