Question about CPS
Dawn Bennink
I am floored. CPS showed up at my house this afternoon, supposedly
responding to a report that I am neglecting my children's education and
physically and verbally abusing them. The kids, thank heaven, were not
here at the time as they were visiting my mother. I did not let them
inspect my home as they did not have a court order. Did I do the right
thing? What do I do next? I live in New York State. No, I'm not a
member of HSLDA yet, as my oldest son isn't 6 yet, so I have no legal
obligation to send him to school nor file any paperwork. Any voice of
experience would be appreciated.
--
Dawn Bennink
homeschooling mom to Malcolm & Miles
"If you bungle raising your children, I don't think whatever else you do
well matters very much." - Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis
"There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a
miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle." - Albert
Einstein
"My grandmother wanted me to have an education so she kept me out of
school." - Margaret Mead
responding to a report that I am neglecting my children's education and
physically and verbally abusing them. The kids, thank heaven, were not
here at the time as they were visiting my mother. I did not let them
inspect my home as they did not have a court order. Did I do the right
thing? What do I do next? I live in New York State. No, I'm not a
member of HSLDA yet, as my oldest son isn't 6 yet, so I have no legal
obligation to send him to school nor file any paperwork. Any voice of
experience would be appreciated.
--
Dawn Bennink
homeschooling mom to Malcolm & Miles
"If you bungle raising your children, I don't think whatever else you do
well matters very much." - Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis
"There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a
miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle." - Albert
Einstein
"My grandmother wanted me to have an education so she kept me out of
school." - Margaret Mead
Dawn Bennink
Child Protective Services. Thanks for the prayers.
Dawn
Liz wrote:
Dawn
Liz wrote:
> What is CPS? Is it like DHS?
>
> I have no experience in this area, as nothing has ever happened to me. I will pray for you.
>
> Blessings,
> Liz
Liz
What is CPS? Is it like DHS?
I have no experience in this area, as nothing has ever happened to me. I will pray for you.
Blessings,
Liz
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----- Original Message -----
From: Dawn Bennink
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 12:50 PM
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] Question about CPS
I am floored. CPS showed up at my house this afternoon, supposedly
responding to a report that I am neglecting my children's education and
physically and verbally abusing them. The kids, thank heaven, were not
here at the time as they were visiting my mother. I did not let them
inspect my home as they did not have a court order. Did I do the right
thing? What do I do next? I live in New York State. No, I'm not a
member of HSLDA yet, as my oldest son isn't 6 yet, so I have no legal
obligation to send him to school nor file any paperwork. Any voice of
experience would be appreciated.
--
Dawn Bennink
homeschooling mom to Malcolm & Miles
"If you bungle raising your children, I don't think whatever else you do
well matters very much." - Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis
"There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a
miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle." - Albert
Einstein
"My grandmother wanted me to have an education so she kept me out of
school." - Margaret Mead
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LisaBugg
Yes, you did just the right things. ;)
CPS **HAS** to investigate every claim. Therefore if some neighbor or upset
relative called, they had to respond. As you child is 6 and below the
complusary attendence age, then this should be the end of it. What did the
worker say to you when she arrived? Did she leave you a card or say anything
about what she would need to do next to close the file?
What you need to do next is contingent on what policy she must follow.
CPS **HAS** to investigate every claim. Therefore if some neighbor or upset
relative called, they had to respond. As you child is 6 and below the
complusary attendence age, then this should be the end of it. What did the
worker say to you when she arrived? Did she leave you a card or say anything
about what she would need to do next to close the file?
What you need to do next is contingent on what policy she must follow.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dawn Bennink" <dbennink@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 12:50 PM
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] Question about CPS
> I am floored. CPS showed up at my house this afternoon, supposedly
> responding to a report that I am neglecting my children's education and
> physically and verbally abusing them. The kids, thank heaven, were not
> here at the time as they were visiting my mother. I did not let them
> inspect my home as they did not have a court order. Did I do the right
> thing? What do I do next? I live in New York State. No, I'm not a
> member of HSLDA yet, as my oldest son isn't 6 yet, so I have no legal
> obligation to send him to school nor file any paperwork. Any voice of
> experience would be appreciated.
>
> --
> Dawn Bennink
> homeschooling mom to Malcolm & Miles
>
> "If you bungle raising your children, I don't think whatever else you do
> well matters very much." - Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis
> "There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a
> miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle." - Albert
> Einstein
> "My grandmother wanted me to have an education so she kept me out of
> school." - Margaret Mead
>
>
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Diane
I would be both floored and very angry. I cannot imagine such a charge. I am
so glad your children were not home. Do you know who reported you?
Yes, IMHO, you did the right thing not to let them in.
My prayers and best hopes and wishes are with you.
:-) Diane
Dawn Bennink wrote:
so glad your children were not home. Do you know who reported you?
Yes, IMHO, you did the right thing not to let them in.
My prayers and best hopes and wishes are with you.
:-) Diane
Dawn Bennink wrote:
> I am floored. CPS showed up at my house this afternoon, supposedly
> responding to a report that I am neglecting my children's education and
> physically and verbally abusing them. The kids, thank heaven, were not
> here at the time as they were visiting my mother. I did not let them
> inspect my home as they did not have a court order. Did I do the right
> thing? What do I do next? I live in New York State. No, I'm not a
> member of HSLDA yet, as my oldest son isn't 6 yet, so I have no legal
> obligation to send him to school nor file any paperwork. Any voice of
> experience would be appreciated.
>
> --
> Dawn Bennink
> homeschooling mom to Malcolm & Miles
>
> "If you bungle raising your children, I don't think whatever else you do
> well matters very much." - Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis
> "There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a
> miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle." - Albert
> Einstein
> "My grandmother wanted me to have an education so she kept me out of
> school." - Margaret Mead
Dawn Bennink
SandraDodd@... wrote:
I do plan to unschool, so I guess HSLDA won't matter anyway.
positive comments from all our neighbors quite frequently about how great our
kids are and what a good mom I am.
all the other forms of positive parenting we practice.
and indicated they might be interviewing neighbors and family as well.
Dawn
> If you don't have school-age children, then HSLDA wouldn't be a factor nor anMy oldest won't be 6 until May, so they are not of compulsory school age in NY.
> advantage. If you're going to unschool, HSLDA wouldn't want to help you
> anyway.
I do plan to unschool, so I guess HSLDA won't matter anyway.
> If the neighbors are hearing too much noise for their tastes and think theBelieve me, our neighbors have nothing to complain about. In fact, we get
> kids should have more clothes on or whatever,
positive comments from all our neighbors quite frequently about how great our
kids are and what a good mom I am.
> or if it's a harrassmentI am thinking it may be my SIL as she is adamantly opposed to homeschooling and
> report, that's the sort of thing CPS deals with routinely and they know lack
> of basis when they see it. The "educational neglect" phrase should bea clue,
> unless kindergarten is required of five year olds or whatever.
all the other forms of positive parenting we practice.
> What was the word on when/if they're coming back, or what?They said they would contact me if they had any further concerns of questions,
and indicated they might be interviewing neighbors and family as well.
Dawn
Dawn Bennink
I'm not sure who reported me, but I have my suspicions it was my SIL. It was a
terrible shock and really angered me. What a mean thing to do!
Dawn
Diane wrote:
terrible shock and really angered me. What a mean thing to do!
Dawn
Diane wrote:
> I would be both floored and very angry. I cannot imagine such a charge. I am
> so glad your children were not home. Do you know who reported you?
>
> Yes, IMHO, you did the right thing not to let them in.
>
> My prayers and best hopes and wishes are with you.
>
> :-) Diane
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In a message dated 10/16/01 4:03:32 PM Mountain Daylight Time, ethomp@...
writes:
If you don't have school-age children, then HSLDA wouldn't be a factor nor an
advantage. If you're going to unschool, HSLDA wouldn't want to help you
anyway.
If the neighbors are hearing too much noise for their tastes and think the
kids should have more clothes on or whatever, or if it's a harrassment
report, that's the sort of thing CPS deals with routinely and they know lack
of basis when they see it. The "educational neglect" phrase should bea clue,
unless kindergarten is required of five year olds or whatever.
What was the word on when/if they're coming back, or what?
Sandra
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writes:
> What is CPS? Is it like DHS?Child Protective Services.
If you don't have school-age children, then HSLDA wouldn't be a factor nor an
advantage. If you're going to unschool, HSLDA wouldn't want to help you
anyway.
If the neighbors are hearing too much noise for their tastes and think the
kids should have more clothes on or whatever, or if it's a harrassment
report, that's the sort of thing CPS deals with routinely and they know lack
of basis when they see it. The "educational neglect" phrase should bea clue,
unless kindergarten is required of five year olds or whatever.
What was the word on when/if they're coming back, or what?
Sandra
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[email protected]
In a message dated 10/16/01 8:45:06 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
dbennink@... writes:
Did they ask you for names of family members?
Very interesting.
So good. If they ask the neighbors they'll say you're fine.
If they HAVE family contacts you didn't give them yourself, that means they
got family contacts from... family!
(Unless you're in such a small town people just know who's who. I grew up in
a town that small, but in Albuquerque no social services people would have a
clue how to contact any of my relatives unless they asked me, or already
knew.)
Sandra
Sandra
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dbennink@... writes:
> They said they would contact me if they had any further concerns of"And family"? <g>
> questions,
> and indicated they might be interviewing neighbors and family as well.
>
Did they ask you for names of family members?
Very interesting.
So good. If they ask the neighbors they'll say you're fine.
If they HAVE family contacts you didn't give them yourself, that means they
got family contacts from... family!
(Unless you're in such a small town people just know who's who. I grew up in
a town that small, but in Albuquerque no social services people would have a
clue how to contact any of my relatives unless they asked me, or already
knew.)
Sandra
Sandra
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Lynda
HSLDA won't be a help. They deal with school age kids AND they do not help
unschoolers.
The educational neglect can't be a problem since the kids aren't required to
be in school and that should have been quickly cleared up by telling them
the age.
As to the other two, well, when did they say they would be back? If they
didn't say, then they plan on a sneak attack because they will be back. All
states mandate that you have to check the children themselves if there are
reports of physical abuse.
If you have a pediatrician that you are on real good terms with and
insurance that covers well-baby visits, etc., I would trot off to the doc's
and have him/her do a check and sign a statement that there aren't any signs
of physical abuse. This was what we recommended to clients when I
coordinated an ICWA program.
Lynda
unschoolers.
The educational neglect can't be a problem since the kids aren't required to
be in school and that should have been quickly cleared up by telling them
the age.
As to the other two, well, when did they say they would be back? If they
didn't say, then they plan on a sneak attack because they will be back. All
states mandate that you have to check the children themselves if there are
reports of physical abuse.
If you have a pediatrician that you are on real good terms with and
insurance that covers well-baby visits, etc., I would trot off to the doc's
and have him/her do a check and sign a statement that there aren't any signs
of physical abuse. This was what we recommended to clients when I
coordinated an ICWA program.
Lynda
----- Original Message -----
From: Dawn Bennink <dbennink@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 10:50 AM
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] Question about CPS
> I am floored. CPS showed up at my house this afternoon, supposedly
> responding to a report that I am neglecting my children's education and
> physically and verbally abusing them. The kids, thank heaven, were not
> here at the time as they were visiting my mother. I did not let them
> inspect my home as they did not have a court order. Did I do the right
> thing? What do I do next? I live in New York State. No, I'm not a
> member of HSLDA yet, as my oldest son isn't 6 yet, so I have no legal
> obligation to send him to school nor file any paperwork. Any voice of
> experience would be appreciated.
>
> --
> Dawn Bennink
> homeschooling mom to Malcolm & Miles
>
> "If you bungle raising your children, I don't think whatever else you do
> well matters very much." - Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis
> "There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a
> miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle." - Albert
> Einstein
> "My grandmother wanted me to have an education so she kept me out of
> school." - Margaret Mead
>
>
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Kate
I would urge to immediately become familiar with the education code in your
state. It is my understanding that compulsory education effective anywhere
until the first grade, so you should be safe there.
In California, without a court order all I am required to show them is a
copy of my R-4. And I dont have to let them in to inspect my home without a
court order. I agree it was a good thing that the children were not home,
from what I have heard of CPS they sometimes remove children FIRST and ask
questions later :(
My prayers are with you
Kate
state. It is my understanding that compulsory education effective anywhere
until the first grade, so you should be safe there.
In California, without a court order all I am required to show them is a
copy of my R-4. And I dont have to let them in to inspect my home without a
court order. I agree it was a good thing that the children were not home,
from what I have heard of CPS they sometimes remove children FIRST and ask
questions later :(
My prayers are with you
Kate
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dawn Bennink" <dbennink@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 10:50 AM
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] Question about CPS
> I am floored. CPS showed up at my house this afternoon, supposedly
> responding to a report that I am neglecting my children's education and
> physically and verbally abusing them. The kids, thank heaven, were not
> here at the time as they were visiting my mother. I did not let them
> inspect my home as they did not have a court order. Did I do the right
> thing? What do I do next? I live in New York State. No, I'm not a
> member of HSLDA yet, as my oldest son isn't 6 yet, so I have no legal
> obligation to send him to school nor file any paperwork. Any voice of
> experience would be appreciated.
>
> --
> Dawn Bennink
> homeschooling mom to Malcolm & Miles
>
> "If you bungle raising your children, I don't think whatever else you do
> well matters very much." - Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis
> "There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a
> miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle." - Albert
> Einstein
> "My grandmother wanted me to have an education so she kept me out of
> school." - Margaret Mead
>
>
>
>
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