Bridget E Coffman

> So maybe it was statistically likely that
> Bridget's agreement involved some pressure, but using that kind of
> probability to assess an individual can be completely invalid.
(Stereotyping is
> often unfair to individuals -- and very frustrating.)

Is THAT where this problem stems from!!! Well let me clear up a few
stereotypes:

Statistically, I am likely to believe in monogamy.
Statistically, I am likely to be Christian.
Statistically, I am likely to be either Republican or Democrat.
Statistically, I am likely to believe that extra-terrestrial life does
not exist.
Statistically, I am likely to be a public school parent.
Statistically, I am likely to work outside of the home.
Statistically, I am likely to live in a city.
Statistically, I am likely to be afraid of spiders, snakes or rodents.

I'm sure given time, I could extend this list greatly. The one thing
that links ALL of the above statements? I'm not any of them. It truly
had never occured to me that any of you would make assumptions about me
based on anything other than what I write, but Betsy's post made me see
exactly what happened. I get it now. Others probably had to work long
and hard to break their 'programming' and become unschoolers and for that
reason they can't see that maybe I come from such a different place that
I didn't need to break mine. I don't think about not using this word or
that expression with my kids because it may mean something different in
another family - like agreement and compromise. Or that I would have to
be careful to make my kids know they are equal partners in this family.
They just are.
I guess in some ways, I made assuptions too. I assumed that you all were
at the same place I am concerning rights, responsibility and respect.
That place does not include using cute names for things that are chores.
That place does not include me giving up my own identity to please my
kids. The respect in this family goes both ways. Maybe part of the
reason is because there are three generations here not just two. That
has had a big effect on how the girls view the mother-daughter
relationship. My mother is one of my best friends and they see that
regularly. They also know that we (mom and I) disagree regularly on many
things but that we still love and respect each other.

Bridget

PS - Betsy - Your post made perfect sense to me and it did really help me
see what happened here in a new light. Thank you very much!!!!


~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~
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Sharon Rudd

..........
> Others probably had to work long
> and hard to break their 'programming' and ......

> Bridget

Ooops...that is another of those projected
assumptions...
Sharon

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>For instance if someone thinks that 3 meals a day is a must, but it's
>interfering with her life and making her and her family miserable, she
might
>find it helpful to realize that people can exist just fine eating in
other
>ways. It's not something that most people will even think to question.

OOOOOOHHHH Yeah, there's another one!

Statistically, I cook and eat three meals a day.

Yeah, Right.
(If a double negative is a positive, a double positive must be a
negative.)

How about:
Statististically, I think ice cream is not a breakfast food.

Bridget

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Tami Labig-Duquette

I think ice cream is an any time food :) I also think :) everyone should eat
thier desserts first then the meal :) My kids usually eat what they are
hungry for, I do too. But we are ODD, according to my family and a few other
:)
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>From: Bridget E Coffman <rumpleteasermom@...>
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Statistically
>Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 11:25:57 -0400
>
> >For instance if someone thinks that 3 meals a day is a must, but it's
> >interfering with her life and making her and her family miserable, she
>might
> >find it helpful to realize that people can exist just fine eating in
>other
> >ways. It's not something that most people will even think to question.
>
>OOOOOOHHHH Yeah, there's another one!
>
>Statistically, I cook and eat three meals a day.
>
>Yeah, Right.
>(If a double negative is a positive, a double positive must be a
>negative.)
>
>How about:
>Statististically, I think ice cream is not a breakfast food.
>
>Bridget
>
>~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~
>Think like a man of action, act like a man of thought
>
> - Henri Bergson


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Dear Tami

I read "ODD" as initials for some sort of disorder
with which I was unfamiliar. Then I recognized it as
the same order we have in my family.

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LMAO!! It the disorder we have :) Nice to know we are not alone :)
My sister and mother take medication ( :) ) to prevent them from getting it,
although I think its doubtful they'll ever get IT!
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>From: Sharon Rudd <bearspawprint@...>
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Statistically
>Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 11:32:18 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Dear Tami
>
>I read "ODD" as initials for some sort of disorder
>with which I was unfamiliar. Then I recognized it as
>the same order we have in my family.
>
>Sharon
>
>
>
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so, like, you're a number nine or something?
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Tami Labig-Duquette" <labigduquette@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Statistically


> I think ice cream is an any time food :) I also think :) everyone should
eat
> thier desserts first then the meal :) My kids usually eat what they are
> hungry for, I do too. But we are ODD, according to my family and a few
other
> :)
> Indiana Tami
>
> "You must be the change you wish to see in the world"
> ~Ghandi
>
> Try out this fun site!
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>
>
>
>
> >From: Bridget E Coffman <rumpleteasermom@...>
> >Reply-To: [email protected]
> >To: [email protected]
> >Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Statistically
> >Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 11:25:57 -0400
> >
> > >For instance if someone thinks that 3 meals a day is a must, but it's
> > >interfering with her life and making her and her family miserable, she
> >might
> > >find it helpful to realize that people can exist just fine eating in
> >other
> > >ways. It's not something that most people will even think to question.
> >
> >OOOOOOHHHH Yeah, there's another one!
> >
> >Statistically, I cook and eat three meals a day.
> >
> >Yeah, Right.
> >(If a double negative is a positive, a double positive must be a
> >negative.)
> >
> >How about:
> >Statististically, I think ice cream is not a breakfast food.
> >
> >Bridget
> >
> >~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~
> >Think like a man of action, act like a man of thought
> >
> > - Henri Bergson
>
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UM, whats a number 9?
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>From: "Johanna SanInocencio" <saninocencio@...>
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Statistically
>Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 14:26:35 -0500
>
>so, like, you're a number nine or something?
>Johanna
>Life is the ultimate learning experience!
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Tami Labig-Duquette" <labigduquette@...>
>To: <[email protected]>
>Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 1:24 PM
>Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Statistically
>
>
> > I think ice cream is an any time food :) I also think :) everyone should
>eat
> > thier desserts first then the meal :) My kids usually eat what they are
> > hungry for, I do too. But we are ODD, according to my family and a few
>other
> > :)
> > Indiana Tami
> >
> > "You must be the change you wish to see in the world"
> > ~Ghandi
> >
> > Try out this fun site!
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> >
> >
> >
> > >From: Bridget E Coffman <rumpleteasermom@...>
> > >Reply-To: [email protected]
> > >To: [email protected]
> > >Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Statistically
> > >Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 11:25:57 -0400
> > >
> > > >For instance if someone thinks that 3 meals a day is a must, but it's
> > > >interfering with her life and making her and her family miserable,
>she
> > >might
> > > >find it helpful to realize that people can exist just fine eating in
> > >other
> > > >ways. It's not something that most people will even think to
>question.
> > >
> > >OOOOOOHHHH Yeah, there's another one!
> > >
> > >Statistically, I cook and eat three meals a day.
> > >
> > >Yeah, Right.
> > >(If a double negative is a positive, a double positive must be a
> > >negative.)
> > >
> > >How about:
> > >Statististically, I think ice cream is not a breakfast food.
> > >
> > >Bridget
> > >
> > >~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~
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> > >
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Tami Labig-Duquette" <labigduquette@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Statistically


> UM, whats a number 9?
> Indiana Tami
>
> "You must be the change you wish to see in the world"
> ~Ghandi
>
> Try out this fun site!
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>
>
>
> >From: "Johanna SanInocencio" <saninocencio@...>
> >Reply-To: [email protected]
> >To: <[email protected]>
> >Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Statistically
> >Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 14:26:35 -0500
> >
> >so, like, you're a number nine or something?
> >Johanna
> >Life is the ultimate learning experience!
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Tami Labig-Duquette" <labigduquette@...>
> >To: <[email protected]>
> >Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 1:24 PM
> >Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Statistically
> >
> >
> > > I think ice cream is an any time food :) I also think :) everyone
should
> >eat
> > > thier desserts first then the meal :) My kids usually eat what they
are
> > > hungry for, I do too. But we are ODD, according to my family and a few
> >other
> > > :)
> > > Indiana Tami
> > >
> > > "You must be the change you wish to see in the world"
> > > ~Ghandi
> > >
> > > Try out this fun site!
> > > http://www.neopets.com/refer.phtml?username=angel1bunny
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: Bridget E Coffman <rumpleteasermom@...>
> > > >Reply-To: [email protected]
> > > >To: [email protected]
> > > >Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Statistically
> > > >Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 11:25:57 -0400
> > > >
> > > > >For instance if someone thinks that 3 meals a day is a must, but
it's
> > > > >interfering with her life and making her and her family miserable,
> >she
> > > >might
> > > > >find it helpful to realize that people can exist just fine eating
in
> > > >other
> > > > >ways. It's not something that most people will even think to
> >question.
> > > >
> > > >OOOOOOHHHH Yeah, there's another one!
> > > >
> > > >Statistically, I cook and eat three meals a day.
> > > >
> > > >Yeah, Right.
> > > >(If a double negative is a positive, a double positive must be a
> > > >negative.)
> > > >
> > > >How about:
> > > >Statististically, I think ice cream is not a breakfast food.
> > > >
> > > >Bridget
> > > >
> > > >~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~
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> > > >
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> > >
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Bridget E Coffman wrote:

> PS - Betsy - Your post made perfect sense to me and it did really help me
> see what happened here in a new light. Thank you very much!!!!

As we say in my family, Bridget, "thank you for the thank you". I did
appreciate it.

I should have put a disclaimer on my post that it represented my unravelling
of my own thought process. Although it made sense to you, it may not
actually be a valid explanation of any one else's thinking, other than my
own.

It's not accurate for me to assume that anyone else on the list thinks like
me. (That would be scary!) So, if I tossed around the pronoun "we",
consider it deleted. I can't speak for the whole list, nor any of it's
lively factions.

Best wishes,
Betsy

Tami Labig-Duquette

LOL, Yep thats me :)
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>From: "Johanna SanInocencio" <saninocencio@...>
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Statistically
>Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 00:27:18 -0500
>
>ODD!
>Johanna
>Life is the ultimate learning experience!
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Tami Labig-Duquette" <labigduquette@...>
>To: <[email protected]>
>Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 3:35 PM
>Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Statistically
>
>
> > UM, whats a number 9?
> > Indiana Tami
> >
> > "You must be the change you wish to see in the world"
> > ~Ghandi
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Johanna SanInocencio" <saninocencio@...>
> > >Reply-To: [email protected]
> > >To: <[email protected]>
> > >Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Statistically
> > >Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 14:26:35 -0500
> > >
> > >so, like, you're a number nine or something?
> > >Johanna
> > >Life is the ultimate learning experience!
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Tami Labig-Duquette" <labigduquette@...>
> > >To: <[email protected]>
> > >Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 1:24 PM
> > >Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Statistically
> > >
> > >
> > > > I think ice cream is an any time food :) I also think :) everyone
>should
> > >eat
> > > > thier desserts first then the meal :) My kids usually eat what they
>are
> > > > hungry for, I do too. But we are ODD, according to my family and a
>few
> > >other
> > > > :)
> > > > Indiana Tami
> > > >
> > > > "You must be the change you wish to see in the world"
> > > >
>~Ghandi
> > > >
> > > > Try out this fun site!
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: Bridget E Coffman <rumpleteasermom@...>
> > > > >Reply-To: [email protected]
> > > > >To: [email protected]
> > > > >Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Statistically
> > > > >Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 11:25:57 -0400
> > > > >
> > > > > >For instance if someone thinks that 3 meals a day is a must, but
>it's
> > > > > >interfering with her life and making her and her family
>miserable,
> > >she
> > > > >might
> > > > > >find it helpful to realize that people can exist just fine eating
>in
> > > > >other
> > > > > >ways. It's not something that most people will even think to
> > >question.
> > > > >
> > > > >OOOOOOHHHH Yeah, there's another one!
> > > > >
> > > > >Statistically, I cook and eat three meals a day.
> > > > >
> > > > >Yeah, Right.
> > > > >(If a double negative is a positive, a double positive must be a
> > > > >negative.)
> > > > >
> > > > >How about:
> > > > >Statististically, I think ice cream is not a breakfast food.
> > > > >
> > > > >Bridget
> > > > >
> > > > >~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~ ~\/~
>~\/~
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