[email protected]

In a message dated 9/14/01 9:53:15 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:


> I see communism in direct opposition to what the founding fathers wanted for
> this country. I don't see myself as more AMERICAN just because I'm a
> Christian or anything else. I do see communism as something that is
> completely against the founding ideas of this country so I would consider
> them less American if you are talking about American as believing in the
> principles that this country was founded on.
> Rachel
>
>
> I don't see myself as more AMERICAN just because I'm a Christian or
> anything else.

Rachel this sentence doesn't make any sense. Being an American has
absolutely nothing to do with any specific religion. In fact isn't this
country founded on religious freedom and separation of church and state. So
therefore America is not a specific religion. Different people in this
country believe in different religions, but the country itself doesn't
believe in a specific religion.

Again confusion.

Dawn
^^^^^^^^^^^^
Dawn Falbe
Personal Development Coach
Relocational Astrologer
(520) 579-2646
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
The Path of Least Resistance is Inside of You
www.astrologerdawn.com
Enlightening women on how to live their Soul Purpose

"The people who get on in this world
are people who get up and look for the
circumstances they want, and,
if they can't find them, make them." - George Bernard Shaw

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Bernard Shaw





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[email protected]

In a message dated 9/14/01 9:53:15 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:


> I see communism in direct opposition to what the founding fathers wanted for
> this country. I don't see myself as more AMERICAN just because I'm a
> Christian or anything else. I do see communism as something that is
> completely against the founding ideas of this country so I would consider
> them less American if you are talking about American as believing in the
> principles that this country was founded on.
> Rachel
>
>
> I don't see myself as more AMERICAN just because I'm a Christian or
> anything else.

Rachel this sentence doesn't make any sense. Being an American has
absolutely nothing to do with any specific religion. In fact isn't this
country founded on religious freedom and separation of church and state. So
therefore America is not a specific religion. Different people in this
country believe in different religions, but the country itself doesn't
believe in a specific religion.

Again confusion.

Dawn
^^^^^^^^^^^^
Dawn Falbe
Personal Development Coach
Relocational Astrologer
(520) 579-2646
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
The Path of Least Resistance is Inside of You
www.astrologerdawn.com
Enlightening women on how to live their Soul Purpose

"The people who get on in this world
are people who get up and look for the
circumstances they want, and,
if they can't find them, make them." - George Bernard Shaw

"The only time my education was interrupted was when I was in school."-George
Bernard Shaw





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Johanna SanInocencio

Dawn, your confusion comes from missing the post Rachel was replying to. See
the following:

Excellent point. Those who founded the country were quite obviously
opposed to a church-state but for some reason, those who would want one
now
sometimes see themselves as more truly AMERICAN than people whose beliefs
differ from the founders in other ways.

Lucy

This was where the idea of Christians being "more" American came from that
Rachel was replying to. I am responding because Rachel has left the group
according to her last post.

Johanna
Life is the ultimate learning experience!
----- Original Message -----
From: <NumoAstro@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom]Founding of this Country


> In a message dated 9/14/01 9:53:15 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
> [email protected] writes:
>
>
> > I see communism in direct opposition to what the founding fathers wanted
for
> > this country. I don't see myself as more AMERICAN just because I'm a
> > Christian or anything else. I do see communism as something that is
> > completely against the founding ideas of this country so I would
consider
> > them less American if you are talking about American as believing in the
> > principles that this country was founded on.
> > Rachel
> >
> >
> > I don't see myself as more AMERICAN just because I'm a Christian or
> > anything else.
>
> Rachel this sentence doesn't make any sense. Being an American has
> absolutely nothing to do with any specific religion. In fact isn't this
> country founded on religious freedom and separation of church and state.
So
> therefore America is not a specific religion. Different people in this
> country believe in different religions, but the country itself doesn't
> believe in a specific religion.
>
> Again confusion.
>
> Dawn
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Dawn Falbe
> Personal Development Coach
> Relocational Astrologer
> (520) 579-2646
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> The Path of Least Resistance is Inside of You
> www.astrologerdawn.com
> Enlightening women on how to live their Soul Purpose
>
> "The people who get on in this world
> are people who get up and look for the
> circumstances they want, and,
> if they can't find them, make them." - George Bernard Shaw
>
> "The only time my education was interrupted was when I was in
school."-George
> Bernard Shaw
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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Fetteroll

on 9/14/01 7:17 PM, "Julie Stauffer" <jnjstau@...> wrote:

> May I direct you to the Progressive Labor Party (www.plp.org). The
> organization works against racism, sexism, actually believes that being a
> housewife and raising children is for the greater good

I'm not sure I'd want a political party saying that for *women* (in
particular) raising children is for the "greater good". It sounds one step
removed from insisting that's what women must do.

And looking over that stuff, with the words of violence and hate used in
support of their cause, it doesn't seem that far removed from some of bin
Laden's reasoning for what he's done in the past.

It's promulgating one way of thinking. It doesn't sound much different than
the type of speech that kept the Russian people submissive to the
government. Gives me the shivers.

Joyce

[email protected]

I stand or sit corrected Johanna!!!

Dawn

--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., "Johanna SanInocencio"
<saninocencio@c...> wrote:
> Dawn, your confusion comes from missing the post Rachel was
replying to. See
> the following:
>
> Excellent point. Those who founded the country were quite
obviously
> opposed to a church-state but for some reason, those who would
want one
> now
> sometimes see themselves as more truly AMERICAN than people whose
beliefs
> differ from the founders in other ways.
>
> Lucy
>
> This was where the idea of Christians being "more" American came
from that
> Rachel was replying to. I am responding because Rachel has left the
group
> according to her last post.
>
> Johanna
> Life is the ultimate learning experience!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <NumoAstro@a...>
> To: <Unschooling-dotcom@y...>
> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 4:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom]Founding of this Country
>
>
> > In a message dated 9/14/01 9:53:15 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
> > Unschooling-dotcom@y... writes:
> >
> >
> > > I see communism in direct opposition to what the founding
fathers wanted
> for
> > > this country. I don't see myself as more AMERICAN just because
I'm a
> > > Christian or anything else. I do see communism as something
that is
> > > completely against the founding ideas of this country so I would
> consider
> > > them less American if you are talking about American as
believing in the
> > > principles that this country was founded on.
> > > Rachel
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't see myself as more AMERICAN just because I'm a
Christian or
> > > anything else.
> >
> > Rachel this sentence doesn't make any sense. Being an American
has
> > absolutely nothing to do with any specific religion. In fact
isn't this
> > country founded on religious freedom and separation of church and
state.
> So
> > therefore America is not a specific religion. Different people
in this
> > country believe in different religions, but the country itself
doesn't
> > believe in a specific religion.
> >
> > Again confusion.
> >
> > Dawn
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > Dawn Falbe
> > Personal Development Coach
> > Relocational Astrologer
> > (520) 579-2646
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > The Path of Least Resistance is Inside of You
> > www.astrologerdawn.com
> > Enlightening women on how to live their Soul Purpose
> >
> > "The people who get on in this world
> > are people who get up and look for the
> > circumstances they want, and,
> > if they can't find them, make them." - George Bernard Shaw
> >
> > "The only time my education was interrupted was when I was in
> school."-George
> > Bernard Shaw
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > Message boards, timely articles, a free newsletter and more!
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> >
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http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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> >
> >