Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] TROs, etc. was Fieldtrip to a Public School???
Lynda
Just an aside to this issue, three *unfounded* complaints from your neighbor
constitutes harassment and you can get a restraining order against them.
The paperwork is easy to fill out and a fee waiver would cover all costs or
most costs. A judge can issue an order to CPS requiring that any
complaintants against you be required, in the future, to identify themselves
and be made aware that false charges can and will be prosecuted.
We helped a woman locally get such an order.
Lynda
constitutes harassment and you can get a restraining order against them.
The paperwork is easy to fill out and a fee waiver would cover all costs or
most costs. A judge can issue an order to CPS requiring that any
complaintants against you be required, in the future, to identify themselves
and be made aware that false charges can and will be prosecuted.
We helped a woman locally get such an order.
Lynda
----- Original Message -----
From: <Homeschool4us123@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Fieldtrip to a Public School???
> I originally filed an R-4 when we first started homeschooling, however, we
> were having severe problems wth some neighbors who threatened to call CPS
on
> us on almost a daily basis. I researched the charter school and after
talking
> to other homeschoolers we decided to go ahead and sign up with the charter
> school as they provided us protection if/when CPS was called on us. I
believe
> it was the day after we signed the paperwork with the charterschool I had
CPS
> call me on the phone saying someone called them to report that my children
do
> not go to school. I gave them the phone number of the Educational
Specialist
> and it was dropped at that. We signed up in the middle of last "school
year".
> By the end of the school year I again had CPS at my door, the same
neighbors
> called on me again. This time CPS kept on us for a while and then
eventually
> said they found nothing wrong and left us alone. Just yesterday I had the
> police called on me by the same people again, accusing me of child neglect
> becaue my children are outside playing instead of "inside the house
> learning". The policeman came out, took down our school information,
checked
> to make sure my children were in no danger. He in fact came up as we were
> engaged in a game, laughing and having a great time together. Although I
> don't feel I have to explain myself to anyone about why we do what we do,
> it's what is working for us. I would much rather signup with the
> charterschool for now and have the protection from the trouble my
neighbors
> are trying to cause then to loose my children to the kidnappers desguised
as
> a governmetn agency.
>
> As for unschooling in the charter, as Sandra Dodd said, some charters work
> hard to allow unschooling. The way it works is as we go about our
unschooling
> lives I write down the "educational activities" my children do engage in
and
> these are categorized by subjects. Once a month I meet with our
Educational
> Specialist and I give her the information. Twice a year I turn over a
> portfolio of samples of my childrens work. The portfolio we turned in last
> year was pretty much photographs and tape recordings of my children. I
don't
> in any way encourage my children to pursue any specific areas of learning,
> but I do notate what they do pursue and give that information over to the
> charter.
>
> If anyone wants to consider us not unschooling, then that's fine. I've
never
> said I'm a "pure" unschooler and really don't want any such title. I
perfer
> to call ourselves natural learners, if we have to call ourselves anythign
at
> all. We do what works for us.
>
> Kimberly U
>
>
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Lynda- Does this work when all the calls have been anonymous. I know who it
is that is calling as the same people were constantly threatening to call.
Once CPS did contact me the threats stopped, however, they almost daily tell
me that I'm raising my children wrong, etc. I dont' have this from anyone
else in my neighborhood. So, as you see I'm pretty positive I know who is
calling, I don't know if I have grounds to file. I asked the police
department several times about this, but they have always told me I have no
evidence. My problems with my neighbors goes beyond just CPS, etc. They
pulled their car on my lawn once and skidded out on it, but I couldn't proove
it. My car got vandalized, but I couldn't prove it. My car even got stolen
and we were suspicious of them, but we dont' know for sure. It's an ongoing
problem. Can I still file though, the police tell me I have no grounds though.
Kimberly U
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is that is calling as the same people were constantly threatening to call.
Once CPS did contact me the threats stopped, however, they almost daily tell
me that I'm raising my children wrong, etc. I dont' have this from anyone
else in my neighborhood. So, as you see I'm pretty positive I know who is
calling, I don't know if I have grounds to file. I asked the police
department several times about this, but they have always told me I have no
evidence. My problems with my neighbors goes beyond just CPS, etc. They
pulled their car on my lawn once and skidded out on it, but I couldn't proove
it. My car got vandalized, but I couldn't prove it. My car even got stolen
and we were suspicious of them, but we dont' know for sure. It's an ongoing
problem. Can I still file though, the police tell me I have no grounds though.
Kimberly U
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Lynda
You can get one for anything that is considered harassment which would
include the kind of "over the fence" or "in your face" kind of thing
because, and these are the words you use, "the ongoing harassment has
deprived us of the enjoyment of our home and a minimum quality of life as
guaranteed under the Constitution." You can also include things about
having to plan all your activities around a fear that they will call CPS yet
one more time and that CPS will decide to remove your children from your
home not based on any (oh geez, I'm brain dead after watching all that
horror on telelvision today, how do you spell that word that means
substantial) [ ] evidence but simply based on the shere volume of the
calls.
If asked how you know the calls came from this neighbor you inform the court
that the neighbor has continuously told you they would call and each time
they have "threatened" (you want to use that word) you, the threat has been
followed by a visit from CPS.
No one should have to take that kind of harassment simply because they are
making a life style choice that is different from someone else's!
If you decide to go forward with a temp and then a permanent RO, you can
contact me off list for help with the forms.
Also, the grounds for a TRO is different than filing a criminal complaint.
With a TRO you don't have to have physical evidence and you don't have to
prove they did it, you just have to a reasonable belief that they are the
cause of the problem. A reasonable person would believe that since they
threatened you and the threat was carried out, then the person doing the
threatening was the one that carried out the threat. If it had happened
only once, then you couldn't get one but has you have numerous incidents and
all you have to do is build a pattern of behavior.
Of course, like anything in the legal system, this comes with a disclaimer
<g> This works in 99.9% of the cases but every now and again you get a
quirky judge who won't give you a final. Usually if they deny the FRO, they
will give both parties a little lecture and then they will threaten the
party you is to be restrained with one of those little "if it happens again
I will issue this, be warned" speeches.
Lynda
include the kind of "over the fence" or "in your face" kind of thing
because, and these are the words you use, "the ongoing harassment has
deprived us of the enjoyment of our home and a minimum quality of life as
guaranteed under the Constitution." You can also include things about
having to plan all your activities around a fear that they will call CPS yet
one more time and that CPS will decide to remove your children from your
home not based on any (oh geez, I'm brain dead after watching all that
horror on telelvision today, how do you spell that word that means
substantial) [ ] evidence but simply based on the shere volume of the
calls.
If asked how you know the calls came from this neighbor you inform the court
that the neighbor has continuously told you they would call and each time
they have "threatened" (you want to use that word) you, the threat has been
followed by a visit from CPS.
No one should have to take that kind of harassment simply because they are
making a life style choice that is different from someone else's!
If you decide to go forward with a temp and then a permanent RO, you can
contact me off list for help with the forms.
Also, the grounds for a TRO is different than filing a criminal complaint.
With a TRO you don't have to have physical evidence and you don't have to
prove they did it, you just have to a reasonable belief that they are the
cause of the problem. A reasonable person would believe that since they
threatened you and the threat was carried out, then the person doing the
threatening was the one that carried out the threat. If it had happened
only once, then you couldn't get one but has you have numerous incidents and
all you have to do is build a pattern of behavior.
Of course, like anything in the legal system, this comes with a disclaimer
<g> This works in 99.9% of the cases but every now and again you get a
quirky judge who won't give you a final. Usually if they deny the FRO, they
will give both parties a little lecture and then they will threaten the
party you is to be restrained with one of those little "if it happens again
I will issue this, be warned" speeches.
Lynda
----- Original Message -----
From: <Homeschool4us123@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 4:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] TROs, etc. was Fieldtrip to a Public
School???
> Lynda- Does this work when all the calls have been anonymous. I know who
it
> is that is calling as the same people were constantly threatening to call.
> Once CPS did contact me the threats stopped, however, they almost daily
tell
> me that I'm raising my children wrong, etc. I dont' have this from anyone
> else in my neighborhood. So, as you see I'm pretty positive I know who is
> calling, I don't know if I have grounds to file. I asked the police
> department several times about this, but they have always told me I have
no
> evidence. My problems with my neighbors goes beyond just CPS, etc. They
> pulled their car on my lawn once and skidded out on it, but I couldn't
proove
> it. My car got vandalized, but I couldn't prove it. My car even got stolen
> and we were suspicious of them, but we dont' know for sure. It's an
ongoing
> problem. Can I still file though, the police tell me I have no grounds
though.
>
>
>
> Kimberly U
>
>
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>
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Johanna SanInocencio
Lynda,
is this a state law that constitutes harassment? I was in a similar
situation a few years back and ended up moving to get away from an
interfering neighbor. I wish I could have used this as a defense.
Johanna
Life is the ultimate learning experience!
is this a state law that constitutes harassment? I was in a similar
situation a few years back and ended up moving to get away from an
interfering neighbor. I wish I could have used this as a defense.
Johanna
Life is the ultimate learning experience!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lynda" <lurine@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 5:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] TROs, etc. was Fieldtrip to a Public
School???
> Just an aside to this issue, three *unfounded* complaints from your
neighbor
> constitutes harassment and you can get a restraining order against them.
> The paperwork is easy to fill out and a fee waiver would cover all costs
or
> most costs. A judge can issue an order to CPS requiring that any
> complaintants against you be required, in the future, to identify
themselves
> and be made aware that false charges can and will be prosecuted.
>
> We helped a woman locally get such an order.
>
> Lynda
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Homeschool4us123@...>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 2:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Fieldtrip to a Public School???
>
>
> > I originally filed an R-4 when we first started homeschooling, however,
we
> > were having severe problems wth some neighbors who threatened to call
CPS
> on
> > us on almost a daily basis. I researched the charter school and after
> talking
> > to other homeschoolers we decided to go ahead and sign up with the
charter
> > school as they provided us protection if/when CPS was called on us. I
> believe
> > it was the day after we signed the paperwork with the charterschool I
had
> CPS
> > call me on the phone saying someone called them to report that my
children
> do
> > not go to school. I gave them the phone number of the Educational
> Specialist
> > and it was dropped at that. We signed up in the middle of last "school
> year".
> > By the end of the school year I again had CPS at my door, the same
> neighbors
> > called on me again. This time CPS kept on us for a while and then
> eventually
> > said they found nothing wrong and left us alone. Just yesterday I had
the
> > police called on me by the same people again, accusing me of child
neglect
> > becaue my children are outside playing instead of "inside the house
> > learning". The policeman came out, took down our school information,
> checked
> > to make sure my children were in no danger. He in fact came up as we
were
> > engaged in a game, laughing and having a great time together. Although I
> > don't feel I have to explain myself to anyone about why we do what we
do,
> > it's what is working for us. I would much rather signup with the
> > charterschool for now and have the protection from the trouble my
> neighbors
> > are trying to cause then to loose my children to the kidnappers
desguised
> as
> > a governmetn agency.
> >
> > As for unschooling in the charter, as Sandra Dodd said, some charters
work
> > hard to allow unschooling. The way it works is as we go about our
> unschooling
> > lives I write down the "educational activities" my children do engage in
> and
> > these are categorized by subjects. Once a month I meet with our
> Educational
> > Specialist and I give her the information. Twice a year I turn over a
> > portfolio of samples of my childrens work. The portfolio we turned in
last
> > year was pretty much photographs and tape recordings of my children. I
> don't
> > in any way encourage my children to pursue any specific areas of
learning,
> > but I do notate what they do pursue and give that information over to
the
> > charter.
> >
> > If anyone wants to consider us not unschooling, then that's fine. I've
> never
> > said I'm a "pure" unschooler and really don't want any such title. I
> perfer
> > to call ourselves natural learners, if we have to call ourselves
anythign
> at
> > all. We do what works for us.
> >
> > Kimberly U
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
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Lynda
There is case law about being able to enjoy your home and that if someone
deprives you of that enjoyment by harassment or threats that you can recover
punitive damages. It is also grounds for a restraining order.
We've used it succesfully for some of the folks we have helped that were
ex-offenders. Neighbors couldn't be bothered to find out why they had been
in jail/prison, just that they had made them fair game for harassment. So
we went after the blankety blanks and that is what our lawyer who
volunteered advise told us to do and it worked.
Lynda
deprives you of that enjoyment by harassment or threats that you can recover
punitive damages. It is also grounds for a restraining order.
We've used it succesfully for some of the folks we have helped that were
ex-offenders. Neighbors couldn't be bothered to find out why they had been
in jail/prison, just that they had made them fair game for harassment. So
we went after the blankety blanks and that is what our lawyer who
volunteered advise told us to do and it worked.
Lynda
----- Original Message -----
From: Johanna SanInocencio <saninocencio@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] TROs, etc. was Fieldtrip to a Public
School???
> Lynda,
> is this a state law that constitutes harassment? I was in a similar
> situation a few years back and ended up moving to get away from an
> interfering neighbor. I wish I could have used this as a defense.
> Johanna
> Life is the ultimate learning experience!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lynda" <lurine@...>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 5:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] TROs, etc. was Fieldtrip to a Public
> School???
>
>
> > Just an aside to this issue, three *unfounded* complaints from your
> neighbor
> > constitutes harassment and you can get a restraining order against them.
> > The paperwork is easy to fill out and a fee waiver would cover all costs
> or
> > most costs. A judge can issue an order to CPS requiring that any
> > complaintants against you be required, in the future, to identify
> themselves
> > and be made aware that false charges can and will be prosecuted.
> >
> > We helped a woman locally get such an order.
> >
> > Lynda
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <Homeschool4us123@...>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 2:42 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Fieldtrip to a Public School???
> >
> >
> > > I originally filed an R-4 when we first started homeschooling,
however,
> we
> > > were having severe problems wth some neighbors who threatened to call
> CPS
> > on
> > > us on almost a daily basis. I researched the charter school and after
> > talking
> > > to other homeschoolers we decided to go ahead and sign up with the
> charter
> > > school as they provided us protection if/when CPS was called on us. I
> > believe
> > > it was the day after we signed the paperwork with the charterschool I
> had
> > CPS
> > > call me on the phone saying someone called them to report that my
> children
> > do
> > > not go to school. I gave them the phone number of the Educational
> > Specialist
> > > and it was dropped at that. We signed up in the middle of last "school
> > year".
> > > By the end of the school year I again had CPS at my door, the same
> > neighbors
> > > called on me again. This time CPS kept on us for a while and then
> > eventually
> > > said they found nothing wrong and left us alone. Just yesterday I had
> the
> > > police called on me by the same people again, accusing me of child
> neglect
> > > becaue my children are outside playing instead of "inside the house
> > > learning". The policeman came out, took down our school information,
> > checked
> > > to make sure my children were in no danger. He in fact came up as we
> were
> > > engaged in a game, laughing and having a great time together. Although
I
> > > don't feel I have to explain myself to anyone about why we do what we
> do,
> > > it's what is working for us. I would much rather signup with the
> > > charterschool for now and have the protection from the trouble my
> > neighbors
> > > are trying to cause then to loose my children to the kidnappers
> desguised
> > as
> > > a governmetn agency.
> > >
> > > As for unschooling in the charter, as Sandra Dodd said, some charters
> work
> > > hard to allow unschooling. The way it works is as we go about our
> > unschooling
> > > lives I write down the "educational activities" my children do engage
in
> > and
> > > these are categorized by subjects. Once a month I meet with our
> > Educational
> > > Specialist and I give her the information. Twice a year I turn over a
> > > portfolio of samples of my childrens work. The portfolio we turned in
> last
> > > year was pretty much photographs and tape recordings of my children. I
> > don't
> > > in any way encourage my children to pursue any specific areas of
> learning,
> > > but I do notate what they do pursue and give that information over to
> the
> > > charter.
> > >
> > > If anyone wants to consider us not unschooling, then that's fine. I've
> > never
> > > said I'm a "pure" unschooler and really don't want any such title. I
> > perfer
> > > to call ourselves natural learners, if we have to call ourselves
> anythign
> > at
> > > all. We do what works for us.
> > >
> > > Kimberly U
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Johanna SanInocencio
Good thing to keep in mind. Our new home is on ten acres and so far we have
wonderful neighbors. Hopefully it will stay this way. I hated living next to
people who thought their whole purpose in life was to tell other people how
they should be living. That is a very oppressive way to live.
Johanna
Life is the ultimate learning experience!
wonderful neighbors. Hopefully it will stay this way. I hated living next to
people who thought their whole purpose in life was to tell other people how
they should be living. That is a very oppressive way to live.
Johanna
Life is the ultimate learning experience!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lynda" <lurine@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] TROs, etc. was Fieldtrip to a Public
School???
> There is case law about being able to enjoy your home and that if someone
> deprives you of that enjoyment by harassment or threats that you can
recover
> punitive damages. It is also grounds for a restraining order.
>
> We've used it succesfully for some of the folks we have helped that were
> ex-offenders. Neighbors couldn't be bothered to find out why they had
been
> in jail/prison, just that they had made them fair game for harassment. So
> we went after the blankety blanks and that is what our lawyer who
> volunteered advise told us to do and it worked.
>
> Lynda
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Johanna SanInocencio <saninocencio@...>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 6:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] TROs, etc. was Fieldtrip to a Public
> School???
>
>
> > Lynda,
> > is this a state law that constitutes harassment? I was in a similar
> > situation a few years back and ended up moving to get away from an
> > interfering neighbor. I wish I could have used this as a defense.
> > Johanna
> > Life is the ultimate learning experience!
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Lynda" <lurine@...>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 5:33 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] TROs, etc. was Fieldtrip to a Public
> > School???
> >
> >
> > > Just an aside to this issue, three *unfounded* complaints from your
> > neighbor
> > > constitutes harassment and you can get a restraining order against
them.
> > > The paperwork is easy to fill out and a fee waiver would cover all
costs
> > or
> > > most costs. A judge can issue an order to CPS requiring that any
> > > complaintants against you be required, in the future, to identify
> > themselves
> > > and be made aware that false charges can and will be prosecuted.
> > >
> > > We helped a woman locally get such an order.
> > >
> > > Lynda
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <Homeschool4us123@...>
> > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 2:42 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Fieldtrip to a Public School???
> > >
> > >
> > > > I originally filed an R-4 when we first started homeschooling,
> however,
> > we
> > > > were having severe problems wth some neighbors who threatened to
call
> > CPS
> > > on
> > > > us on almost a daily basis. I researched the charter school and
after
> > > talking
> > > > to other homeschoolers we decided to go ahead and sign up with the
> > charter
> > > > school as they provided us protection if/when CPS was called on us.
I
> > > believe
> > > > it was the day after we signed the paperwork with the charterschool
I
> > had
> > > CPS
> > > > call me on the phone saying someone called them to report that my
> > children
> > > do
> > > > not go to school. I gave them the phone number of the Educational
> > > Specialist
> > > > and it was dropped at that. We signed up in the middle of last
"school
> > > year".
> > > > By the end of the school year I again had CPS at my door, the same
> > > neighbors
> > > > called on me again. This time CPS kept on us for a while and then
> > > eventually
> > > > said they found nothing wrong and left us alone. Just yesterday I
had
> > the
> > > > police called on me by the same people again, accusing me of child
> > neglect
> > > > becaue my children are outside playing instead of "inside the house
> > > > learning". The policeman came out, took down our school information,
> > > checked
> > > > to make sure my children were in no danger. He in fact came up as we
> > were
> > > > engaged in a game, laughing and having a great time together.
Although
> I
> > > > don't feel I have to explain myself to anyone about why we do what
we
> > do,
> > > > it's what is working for us. I would much rather signup with the
> > > > charterschool for now and have the protection from the trouble my
> > > neighbors
> > > > are trying to cause then to loose my children to the kidnappers
> > desguised
> > > as
> > > > a governmetn agency.
> > > >
> > > > As for unschooling in the charter, as Sandra Dodd said, some
charters
> > work
> > > > hard to allow unschooling. The way it works is as we go about our
> > > unschooling
> > > > lives I write down the "educational activities" my children do
engage
> in
> > > and
> > > > these are categorized by subjects. Once a month I meet with our
> > > Educational
> > > > Specialist and I give her the information. Twice a year I turn over
a
> > > > portfolio of samples of my childrens work. The portfolio we turned
in
> > last
> > > > year was pretty much photographs and tape recordings of my children.
I
> > > don't
> > > > in any way encourage my children to pursue any specific areas of
> > learning,
> > > > but I do notate what they do pursue and give that information over
to
> > the
> > > > charter.
> > > >
> > > > If anyone wants to consider us not unschooling, then that's fine.
I've
> > > never
> > > > said I'm a "pure" unschooler and really don't want any such title. I
> > > perfer
> > > > to call ourselves natural learners, if we have to call ourselves
> > anythign
> > > at
> > > > all. We do what works for us.
> > > >
> > > > Kimberly U
> > > >
> > > >
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When we moved into this house we had the most wonderful neighbor in the
whole world! Guess we got spoiled. We shared Christmas gifts and she used
to bring the kidlets home little souvenirs from her travels. She got lung
cancer and then mets to the brain. We were heart broken. Such a sweet lady
all ways around.
Then the neighbor from h*ll bouht the house. A really psychotic woman who
decided that she owned the alley between the houses and that everyone else
on the alley had to pay her rent! Would you believe she actually fenced off
the alley (which btw belongs to the city) and then when the cops came and
told her to take it down she threw herself in the road and had a screaming
fit!
And my cousin asked why we want to sell our house <g> Hey, I told her I'd
trade with her <g>
Lynda
whole world! Guess we got spoiled. We shared Christmas gifts and she used
to bring the kidlets home little souvenirs from her travels. She got lung
cancer and then mets to the brain. We were heart broken. Such a sweet lady
all ways around.
Then the neighbor from h*ll bouht the house. A really psychotic woman who
decided that she owned the alley between the houses and that everyone else
on the alley had to pay her rent! Would you believe she actually fenced off
the alley (which btw belongs to the city) and then when the cops came and
told her to take it down she threw herself in the road and had a screaming
fit!
And my cousin asked why we want to sell our house <g> Hey, I told her I'd
trade with her <g>
Lynda
----- Original Message -----
From: Johanna SanInocencio <saninocencio@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 8:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] TROs, etc. was Fieldtrip to a Public
School???
> Good thing to keep in mind. Our new home is on ten acres and so far we
have
> wonderful neighbors. Hopefully it will stay this way. I hated living next
to
> people who thought their whole purpose in life was to tell other people
how
> they should be living. That is a very oppressive way to live.
> Johanna
> Life is the ultimate learning experience!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lynda" <lurine@...>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] TROs, etc. was Fieldtrip to a Public
> School???
>
>
> > There is case law about being able to enjoy your home and that if
someone
> > deprives you of that enjoyment by harassment or threats that you can
> recover
> > punitive damages. It is also grounds for a restraining order.
> >
> > We've used it succesfully for some of the folks we have helped that were
> > ex-offenders. Neighbors couldn't be bothered to find out why they had
> been
> > in jail/prison, just that they had made them fair game for harassment.
So
> > we went after the blankety blanks and that is what our lawyer who
> > volunteered advise told us to do and it worked.
> >
> > Lynda
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Johanna SanInocencio <saninocencio@...>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 6:58 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] TROs, etc. was Fieldtrip to a Public
> > School???
> >
> >
> > > Lynda,
> > > is this a state law that constitutes harassment? I was in a similar
> > > situation a few years back and ended up moving to get away from an
> > > interfering neighbor. I wish I could have used this as a defense.
> > > Johanna
> > > Life is the ultimate learning experience!
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Lynda" <lurine@...>
> > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 5:33 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] TROs, etc. was Fieldtrip to a Public
> > > School???
> > >
> > >
> > > > Just an aside to this issue, three *unfounded* complaints from your
> > > neighbor
> > > > constitutes harassment and you can get a restraining order against
> them.
> > > > The paperwork is easy to fill out and a fee waiver would cover all
> costs
> > > or
> > > > most costs. A judge can issue an order to CPS requiring that any
> > > > complaintants against you be required, in the future, to identify
> > > themselves
> > > > and be made aware that false charges can and will be prosecuted.
> > > >
> > > > We helped a woman locally get such an order.
> > > >
> > > > Lynda
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: <Homeschool4us123@...>
> > > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 2:42 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Fieldtrip to a Public School???
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I originally filed an R-4 when we first started homeschooling,
> > however,
> > > we
> > > > > were having severe problems wth some neighbors who threatened to
> call
> > > CPS
> > > > on
> > > > > us on almost a daily basis. I researched the charter school and
> after
> > > > talking
> > > > > to other homeschoolers we decided to go ahead and sign up with the
> > > charter
> > > > > school as they provided us protection if/when CPS was called on
us.
> I
> > > > believe
> > > > > it was the day after we signed the paperwork with the
charterschool
> I
> > > had
> > > > CPS
> > > > > call me on the phone saying someone called them to report that my
> > > children
> > > > do
> > > > > not go to school. I gave them the phone number of the Educational
> > > > Specialist
> > > > > and it was dropped at that. We signed up in the middle of last
> "school
> > > > year".
> > > > > By the end of the school year I again had CPS at my door, the same
> > > > neighbors
> > > > > called on me again. This time CPS kept on us for a while and then
> > > > eventually
> > > > > said they found nothing wrong and left us alone. Just yesterday I
> had
> > > the
> > > > > police called on me by the same people again, accusing me of child
> > > neglect
> > > > > becaue my children are outside playing instead of "inside the
house
> > > > > learning". The policeman came out, took down our school
information,
> > > > checked
> > > > > to make sure my children were in no danger. He in fact came up as
we
> > > were
> > > > > engaged in a game, laughing and having a great time together.
> Although
> > I
> > > > > don't feel I have to explain myself to anyone about why we do what
> we
> > > do,
> > > > > it's what is working for us. I would much rather signup with the
> > > > > charterschool for now and have the protection from the trouble my
> > > > neighbors
> > > > > are trying to cause then to loose my children to the kidnappers
> > > desguised
> > > > as
> > > > > a governmetn agency.
> > > > >
> > > > > As for unschooling in the charter, as Sandra Dodd said, some
> charters
> > > work
> > > > > hard to allow unschooling. The way it works is as we go about our
> > > > unschooling
> > > > > lives I write down the "educational activities" my children do
> engage
> > in
> > > > and
> > > > > these are categorized by subjects. Once a month I meet with our
> > > > Educational
> > > > > Specialist and I give her the information. Twice a year I turn
over
> a
> > > > > portfolio of samples of my childrens work. The portfolio we turned
> in
> > > last
> > > > > year was pretty much photographs and tape recordings of my
children.
> I
> > > > don't
> > > > > in any way encourage my children to pursue any specific areas of
> > > learning,
> > > > > but I do notate what they do pursue and give that information over
> to
> > > the
> > > > > charter.
> > > > >
> > > > > If anyone wants to consider us not unschooling, then that's fine.
> I've
> > > > never
> > > > > said I'm a "pure" unschooler and really don't want any such title.
I
> > > > perfer
> > > > > to call ourselves natural learners, if we have to call ourselves
> > > anythign
> > > > at
> > > > > all. We do what works for us.
> > > > >
> > > > > Kimberly U
> > > > >
> > > > >
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Ok. I've filed a TRO before, but that was from my ex-husband's abuse and
there was definately evidence then. The paperwork wouldnt' be an issue for
me. My next question when it comes to this, however, is retaliation from my
neighbors. I fear if I did get a TRO and then a RO they would then do things
to us that we couldn't prove. When our car got stolen we believed it was
them, however all the evidence pointed to teenagers. Well, a few days before
my car got stolen they suddnely had these teenagers over at their house (they
are in their late 40's) and one of the teenagers bragged that he was working
for them. As I said, days after this my car was apparently stolen by
teenagers. Hmmmm. I worry that they might do something similar. We're in the
process of selling our home. We have a townhome choosen and hope to find a
home to rent instead once we have a buyer. We figured we'd just leave things
be and move. Definately something to debate though. Thank you for the info!!!
Kimberly U
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
there was definately evidence then. The paperwork wouldnt' be an issue for
me. My next question when it comes to this, however, is retaliation from my
neighbors. I fear if I did get a TRO and then a RO they would then do things
to us that we couldn't prove. When our car got stolen we believed it was
them, however all the evidence pointed to teenagers. Well, a few days before
my car got stolen they suddnely had these teenagers over at their house (they
are in their late 40's) and one of the teenagers bragged that he was working
for them. As I said, days after this my car was apparently stolen by
teenagers. Hmmmm. I worry that they might do something similar. We're in the
process of selling our home. We have a townhome choosen and hope to find a
home to rent instead once we have a buyer. We figured we'd just leave things
be and move. Definately something to debate though. Thank you for the info!!!
Kimberly U
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[email protected]
I've lived here in this mobilehome park for 5 years, 4 years in this
mobilehome and 1 year in a different one back when I first came here. These
people havne't been here a year yet. I really dislike being driven out of our
home, but they aren't the only reaosn we're leaving. Apparently the entire
mobilehome park is to be destroyed in a few years so that condos or tract
homes can be built. This may just be a rumor, but we have enough reason
without that to move, add that possibility on and that's the icing on the
cake. We just hope we can sell before anythig becomes public about the place
being torn down in a few years.
Kimberly U
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
mobilehome and 1 year in a different one back when I first came here. These
people havne't been here a year yet. I really dislike being driven out of our
home, but they aren't the only reaosn we're leaving. Apparently the entire
mobilehome park is to be destroyed in a few years so that condos or tract
homes can be built. This may just be a rumor, but we have enough reason
without that to move, add that possibility on and that's the icing on the
cake. We just hope we can sell before anythig becomes public about the place
being torn down in a few years.
Kimberly U
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Lynda
Ya know, that does give you good grounds to go to small claims after you
move and site the loss as one of the reasons for moving.
I agree, it seems you also have the neighbors from h*ll to contend with.
Good luck in your search!!!
Lynda
P.S. How is one suppose to imply emphasis without exclamation points or
SHOUTING? I mean "*" work for single words but what about a hole
sentiment/sentence?
move and site the loss as one of the reasons for moving.
I agree, it seems you also have the neighbors from h*ll to contend with.
Good luck in your search!!!
Lynda
P.S. How is one suppose to imply emphasis without exclamation points or
SHOUTING? I mean "*" work for single words but what about a hole
sentiment/sentence?
----- Original Message -----
From: <Homeschool4us123@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] TROs, etc. was Fieldtrip to a Public
School???
> Ok. I've filed a TRO before, but that was from my ex-husband's abuse and
> there was definately evidence then. The paperwork wouldnt' be an issue for
> me. My next question when it comes to this, however, is retaliation from
my
> neighbors. I fear if I did get a TRO and then a RO they would then do
things
> to us that we couldn't prove. When our car got stolen we believed it was
> them, however all the evidence pointed to teenagers. Well, a few days
before
> my car got stolen they suddnely had these teenagers over at their house
(they
> are in their late 40's) and one of the teenagers bragged that he was
working
> for them. As I said, days after this my car was apparently stolen by
> teenagers. Hmmmm. I worry that they might do something similar. We're in
the
> process of selling our home. We have a townhome choosen and hope to find a
> home to rent instead once we have a buyer. We figured we'd just leave
things
> be and move. Definately something to debate though. Thank you for the
info!!!
>
> Kimberly U
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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I can sympathize. Our ex neighbor called the cops constantly. once on my
then 10 yo son because he had a "gun" (it was made out of k'nex) in front of
her house. My husband drives truck and she didn't want the truck on "her"
street. she would come in front of our house, standing just outside the
property line and scream at us. I am so grateful for the peaceful
relationship we have with our neighbors now. I pray your situation improves.
Johanna
Life is the ultimate learning experience!
then 10 yo son because he had a "gun" (it was made out of k'nex) in front of
her house. My husband drives truck and she didn't want the truck on "her"
street. she would come in front of our house, standing just outside the
property line and scream at us. I am so grateful for the peaceful
relationship we have with our neighbors now. I pray your situation improves.
Johanna
Life is the ultimate learning experience!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lynda" <lurine@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] TROs, etc. was Fieldtrip to a Public
School???
> When we moved into this house we had the most wonderful neighbor in the
> whole world! Guess we got spoiled. We shared Christmas gifts and she
used
> to bring the kidlets home little souvenirs from her travels. She got lung
> cancer and then mets to the brain. We were heart broken. Such a sweet
lady
> all ways around.
>
> Then the neighbor from h*ll bouht the house. A really psychotic woman who
> decided that she owned the alley between the houses and that everyone else
> on the alley had to pay her rent! Would you believe she actually fenced
off
> the alley (which btw belongs to the city) and then when the cops came and
> told her to take it down she threw herself in the road and had a screaming
> fit!
>
> And my cousin asked why we want to sell our house <g> Hey, I told her I'd
> trade with her <g>
>
> Lynda
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Johanna SanInocencio <saninocencio@...>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 8:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] TROs, etc. was Fieldtrip to a Public
> School???
>
>
> > Good thing to keep in mind. Our new home is on ten acres and so far we
> have
> > wonderful neighbors. Hopefully it will stay this way. I hated living
next
> to
> > people who thought their whole purpose in life was to tell other people
> how
> > they should be living. That is a very oppressive way to live.
> > Johanna
> > Life is the ultimate learning experience!
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Lynda" <lurine@...>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:35 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] TROs, etc. was Fieldtrip to a Public
> > School???
> >
> >
> > > There is case law about being able to enjoy your home and that if
> someone
> > > deprives you of that enjoyment by harassment or threats that you can
> > recover
> > > punitive damages. It is also grounds for a restraining order.
> > >
> > > We've used it succesfully for some of the folks we have helped that
were
> > > ex-offenders. Neighbors couldn't be bothered to find out why they had
> > been
> > > in jail/prison, just that they had made them fair game for harassment.
> So
> > > we went after the blankety blanks and that is what our lawyer who
> > > volunteered advise told us to do and it worked.
> > >
> > > Lynda
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Johanna SanInocencio <saninocencio@...>
> > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 6:58 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] TROs, etc. was Fieldtrip to a Public
> > > School???
> > >
> > >
> > > > Lynda,
> > > > is this a state law that constitutes harassment? I was in a similar
> > > > situation a few years back and ended up moving to get away from an
> > > > interfering neighbor. I wish I could have used this as a defense.
> > > > Johanna
> > > > Life is the ultimate learning experience!
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Lynda" <lurine@...>
> > > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 5:33 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] TROs, etc. was Fieldtrip to a
Public
> > > > School???
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Just an aside to this issue, three *unfounded* complaints from
your
> > > > neighbor
> > > > > constitutes harassment and you can get a restraining order against
> > them.
> > > > > The paperwork is easy to fill out and a fee waiver would cover all
> > costs
> > > > or
> > > > > most costs. A judge can issue an order to CPS requiring that any
> > > > > complaintants against you be required, in the future, to identify
> > > > themselves
> > > > > and be made aware that false charges can and will be prosecuted.
> > > > >
> > > > > We helped a woman locally get such an order.
> > > > >
> > > > > Lynda
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: <Homeschool4us123@...>
> > > > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 2:42 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Fieldtrip to a Public School???
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > I originally filed an R-4 when we first started homeschooling,
> > > however,
> > > > we
> > > > > > were having severe problems wth some neighbors who threatened to
> > call
> > > > CPS
> > > > > on
> > > > > > us on almost a daily basis. I researched the charter school and
> > after
> > > > > talking
> > > > > > to other homeschoolers we decided to go ahead and sign up with
the
> > > > charter
> > > > > > school as they provided us protection if/when CPS was called on
> us.
> > I
> > > > > believe
> > > > > > it was the day after we signed the paperwork with the
> charterschool
> > I
> > > > had
> > > > > CPS
> > > > > > call me on the phone saying someone called them to report that
my
> > > > children
> > > > > do
> > > > > > not go to school. I gave them the phone number of the
Educational
> > > > > Specialist
> > > > > > and it was dropped at that. We signed up in the middle of last
> > "school
> > > > > year".
> > > > > > By the end of the school year I again had CPS at my door, the
same
> > > > > neighbors
> > > > > > called on me again. This time CPS kept on us for a while and
then
> > > > > eventually
> > > > > > said they found nothing wrong and left us alone. Just yesterday
I
> > had
> > > > the
> > > > > > police called on me by the same people again, accusing me of
child
> > > > neglect
> > > > > > becaue my children are outside playing instead of "inside the
> house
> > > > > > learning". The policeman came out, took down our school
> information,
> > > > > checked
> > > > > > to make sure my children were in no danger. He in fact came up
as
> we
> > > > were
> > > > > > engaged in a game, laughing and having a great time together.
> > Although
> > > I
> > > > > > don't feel I have to explain myself to anyone about why we do
what
> > we
> > > > do,
> > > > > > it's what is working for us. I would much rather signup with the
> > > > > > charterschool for now and have the protection from the trouble
my
> > > > > neighbors
> > > > > > are trying to cause then to loose my children to the kidnappers
> > > > desguised
> > > > > as
> > > > > > a governmetn agency.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As for unschooling in the charter, as Sandra Dodd said, some
> > charters
> > > > work
> > > > > > hard to allow unschooling. The way it works is as we go about
our
> > > > > unschooling
> > > > > > lives I write down the "educational activities" my children do
> > engage
> > > in
> > > > > and
> > > > > > these are categorized by subjects. Once a month I meet with our
> > > > > Educational
> > > > > > Specialist and I give her the information. Twice a year I turn
> over
> > a
> > > > > > portfolio of samples of my childrens work. The portfolio we
turned
> > in
> > > > last
> > > > > > year was pretty much photographs and tape recordings of my
> children.
> > I
> > > > > don't
> > > > > > in any way encourage my children to pursue any specific areas of
> > > > learning,
> > > > > > but I do notate what they do pursue and give that information
over
> > to
> > > > the
> > > > > > charter.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If anyone wants to consider us not unschooling, then that's
fine.
> > I've
> > > > > never
> > > > > > said I'm a "pure" unschooler and really don't want any such
title.
> I
> > > > > perfer
> > > > > > to call ourselves natural learners, if we have to call ourselves
> > > > anythign
> > > > > at
> > > > > > all. We do what works for us.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kimberly U
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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In a message dated 09/12/2001 2:49:38 AM !!!First Boot!!!, lurine@...
writes:
RO, it is just a tool after the fact.
Nance
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writes:
> SoIf the person abides by the RO. If the person is a nut case and ignores the
> we went after the blankety blanks and that is what our lawyer who
> volunteered advise told us to do and it worked.
>
> Lynda
>
RO, it is just a tool after the fact.
Nance
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In a message dated 09/12/2001 5:21:10 AM !!!First Boot!!!, lurine@...
writes:
Saw a list yesterday of common internet abbreviations and they said LOL means
Lots of Laughter -- I say it means Laugh Out Loud. These are the important
issues I deal with folks!! :) LOL
Nance
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writes:
> P.S. How is one suppose to imply emphasis without exclamation points orAs far as I'm concerned, you can use whatever punctuation you want, Lynda. :)
> SHOUTING?
Saw a list yesterday of common internet abbreviations and they said LOL means
Lots of Laughter -- I say it means Laugh Out Loud. These are the important
issues I deal with folks!! :) LOL
Nance
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