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In a message dated 9/5/01 2:44:23 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
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<<
There was a time where I was breastfeeding, vegan, drinking tons of water,
doing yoga almost daily and getting massage once a week (I was in school for
it, it was free :-)). During that period I had no skin problems whatsoever.

Just thought I'd share...good luck!

Brenda
>>

Damn It! So I really do have to cut the mochas.

NICKI~

karen robinson

hi tara... i just read your post about your son being upset as you have not
been teaching him the way he thinks you should be!! in fact i printed it off
for my son storm to read!! just last night he was saying things similar to
what your son has been saying to you.. he wants more work to do.. we have
been unschooling for three years now and he has been the one to give me the
most challenges with it.. i am constantly printing off things for him to do,
last night however i threw it right back at him.. i told him he had all the
freedom in the world to learn anythng he wanted to do that i was not his
teacher and but that i would help him in anything i could i told him he has
access to anything in the world with the computer and a whole community to
ask questions and explore i told im he was free to take any classes i was
capeable to gt him to as he is only 13 y.o.i told him he probably needs to
limit his t.v. time and i will make them change the channel if i think
cartoons have been on way too long.. generally i do not allow them to just
sit and waych t. v. i throw them outside!! but back to the subject.. i
basically threw it right back at him and told him it was his responsibility
to decide wht he wanted to learn and how.. he is very competitive and always
want s to be one step ahead of everyone else so i suggested that he call the
principal fo the local high schools himself and ask about takeing classes..
which he will not do but i still threw it in.. i suggested that he could
take classes with the 4 h or whatever he wanted to do.. i ordered some
books from cobblestone and i told him they even sent a teachers guide so he
could look at it and do the lessons if he felt the need.. i offered to hepl
him with anything but told him i was not the teacher and he had choices to
make and he was the only one who could make them well we will see... i did
not point out to him all the learning he does when he is building entire
cities outside with blocks of sawed off wood.. or when he sits for hours and
designs cities etc... he so far does not see that as learning.. and i told
him that he is actually lucky to have been able to be with his dad when he
tore down an entire old barn.. and now they are rebuilding a barn on our
land with the materials .. he also does not see that as learning.. so with
this kid i guess i will continue to print off pages for him to do untill he
gets sick of it maybe???

hope you feel better knowing i have a kid like you have!! and i cant wait
to see other posts to your mail.. hopefully someone can help me too...

karen in michigan
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> 1. Re: respect
> From: Pam Hartley <pamhartley@...>
> 2. Re: unschoolers and information sources
> From: brendaclaspell@...
> 3. Re: Irrational Fear
> From: staclarspr@...
> 4. Re: Re: respect
> From: Ann <mumsienc@...>
> 5. Re: Re: respect
> From: brendaclaspell@...
> 6. Re: unschoolers and information sources
> From: jefferson academy <jeffersonacademy@...>
> 7. Re: unschoolers and information sources
> From: Ann <mumsienc@...>
> 8. Re: lynda
> From: "Lynda" <lurine@...>
> 9. Re: SHOUTING
> From: "Lynda" <lurine@...>
> 10. Re: adult skin
> From: Jessi <mistycal@...>
> 11. Re: adult skin
> From: brendaclaspell@...
> 12. New to unschooling....HELP
> From: TarazSpot@...
> 13. Thank you for the Welcome
> From: "noemi hiraishi" <noeminh@...>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 13:35:25 -0700
> From: Pam Hartley <pamhartley@...>
> Subject: Re: respect
>
> I don't think unquestioning or instant obedience is a useful trait to
teach
> young humans who are going to need to be their own masters before any of
us
> parents are ready. :) We're in this to teach life skills, and who wants a
> bunch of obedience adults running around? Look where that gets us! <g>
>
> I think obedience is a fine thing to teach dogs and horses, however.
>
> Respect to me boils down almost entirely to the golden rule, karma, or
> whatever else we want to call it: Treat others as you would like to be
> treated, because that's what's going to happen anyway. (Hmm, maybe we
should
> call that Golden Karma <eg>).
>
> So, if your husband "obeys" the children -- i.e, complies with their
> reasonable requests for time, attention, things, "instantly" he may find
> that sooner or later the children will respect him in the same way. (Maybe
> not, personalities will differ).
>
> If your husband breaks promises (intentionally or through forgetfulness),
> says, "in a minute" and forgets (I'm horribly guilty of that one because I
> have a hard focus, it's something I'm trying VERY hard to retrain myself
> on), says, "you didn't say please" to them but doesn't say "please" when
he
> asks them for something, or expects them to give a great deal more than
they
> get from him (or even AS MUCH as they get -- the balance from a parent
> giving time or attention or services to a young child is necessarily much
> greater than the reciprocal), it all boils down to reasonable and
> unreasonable expectations.
>
> In this household, kindness and safety and honesty (my work in progress)
are
> the key points. Obedience doesn't even make the top 10, except for the
> puppy. <g>
>
> Pam
>
> ----------
> >From: [email protected]
> >To: [email protected]
> >Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] Digest Number 1407
> >Date: Tue, Sep 4, 2001, 1:09 PM
> >
>
> > Message: 23
> > Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 14:51:43 -0400
> > From: "Sheri Piersol" <sheri@...>
> > Subject: What is respect?
> >
> > My husband and I are at odds (not uncommon) about wether the kids are
> > respectful or disrespectful. I think my husband confuses obedience with
> > respect. Just because the kids don't immediately obey, my husband gets
upset
> > because they don't respect me. I feel they do respect me, just don't
always
> > obey. So, how does one show respect? Is disobedience always a sign of
> > disrespect? I mean the kids do obey, just not right away. I think we
have a
> > great amount of respect for one another, but don't want to be fooling
> > myself. I love the various opinions and advice from all of you and thank
you
> > for your help in advance. :)
> >
> > ~Sheri
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 18:50:49 EDT
> From: brendaclaspell@...
> Subject: Re: unschoolers and information sources
>
> In a message dated 9/4/01 1:48:53 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
> SandraDodd@... writes:
>
>
> > Today someone will join this list who doesn't know anything about
> > unschooling, or who's really wanting help NOW, and I think asking people
to
> > stay on topic and to be fair in their arguments is a good thing.
>
> When I first started reading, vaccination and circumcision were the hot
> topics. And I was glad to see them discussed. To me, and I think I've
heard
> it said before, unschooling encompasses just about everything. There is a
> general worldview that seems to be shared by many unschoolers that I love.
> That of questioning, allowing and not limiting. There are varieties in
> different areas, bit I don't want to feel like getting 'off topic' is a
bad
> thing. Again, I'm a competent adult, and if I see something I don't want
to
> read, I delete it. I just subscribed to another homeschooling list and it
> seems much more dogmatic and not what I'm interested in, but I'm giving it
> some time....I might get something out of it.
>
> I'm wondering if the heat is just really getting to everyone. It was nice
> and fall like here for a week or so, then the humidity came back. I'm
ready
> for the cold weather.:-)
>
> Brenda
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 18:54:33 EDT
> From: staclarspr@...
> Subject: Re: Irrational Fear
>
> Could it be the high piercing noise?
> Just checked out ours today, wow wee......what a noise.
>
> Maybe let him press the button to make the noise?
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 19:01:00 -0400
> From: Ann <mumsienc@...>
> Subject: Re: Re: respect
>
> I think this could be a very interesting discussion.
> I'm thinking about it, and will post after I think more. I'm glad this is
brought
> up.
> Ann
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 19:02:17 EDT
> From: brendaclaspell@...
> Subject: Re: Re: respect
>
> In a message dated 9/4/01 4:00:36 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
> pamhartley@... writes:
>
>
> > If your husband breaks promises (intentionally or through
forgetfulness),
> > says, "in a minute" and forgets (I'm horribly guilty of that one because
I
> > have a hard focus, it's something I'm trying VERY hard to retrain myself
> > on), says, "you didn't say please" to them but doesn't say "please" when
he
> > asks them for something, or expects them to give a great deal more than
they
> > get from him (or even AS MUCH as they get -- the balance from a parent
> > giving time or attention or services to a young child is necessarily
much
> > greater than the reciprocal), it all boils down to reasonable and
> > unreasonable expectations.
> >
>
> I thought that was perfect! I've gotten comments and looks from my
extended
> family as well. I know a lot of people who think discipline is the most
> important family value.
> I respect a lot of people but I don't always do what they want when they
> want. People are always so amazed when my son is so polite in asking for
> things and saying thank you. I've always spoke to him that way. In fact I
> never 'taught' him to be polite. But there was a very recent time when my
> manners slipped and, surprise, so did his.
>
> Brenda
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 16:15:48 -0700 (PDT)
> From: jefferson academy <jeffersonacademy@...>
> Subject: Re: unschoolers and information sources
>
> << At first I didn't understand this poster's
> > writing style but reading
> > the archieves has cleared up that question--once a
> > teacher, always a
> > teacher. >>
>
> *Wasn't *John Holt* a former teacher??*
>
> But....
>
>
> > This list is supposed to be for unschoolers to
> > discuss unschooling and their
> > lives
> > Today someone will join this list who doesn't know
> > anything about
> > unschooling, or who's really wanting help NOW, and I
> > think asking people to
> > stay on topic and to be fair in their arguments is a
> > good thing.
>
>
> I'm a new unschooler - and not real experienced with
> the internet either. I really don't think you have to
> worry about someone not being able to find other
> resources, if they were able to subscribe and post
> here - they'll be fine. I've been to *homeschooling*
> message board that make these discussions look like a
> Sunday School lesson on 'be kind to your neighbor'. (I
> was afraid to post!) Also, most of the topics are
> interesting to me, they don't need to center solely on
> unschooling- everything is part of our lives, and I
> just skim over & delete the ones that aren't currently
> of interest to me.
>
> =====
> Michele
> (mom of 5dd: Justice 22, Felicity 20, Christian 18, Grace 13, Elysian
(Mia)2)
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 19:23:15 -0400
> From: Ann <mumsienc@...>
> Subject: Re: unschoolers and information sources
>
> I agree Brenda...
> I use the delete key for anything that just doesn't seem relevant to me.
> BUT....it is usually relevant to others, and that's what life and
unschooling is
> all about.
> Thanks for saying so nicely.
> There are lots of times I don't agree with the opinions expressed, but
still
> everyone has an opinion, and everyone can express it...I'm not going to
attack
> someone or get upset about someone having a different opinion than mine.
It is
> the way of the world, and thank goodness I have my trusty delete key.
> Ann
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 17:58:32 -0700
> From: "Lynda" <lurine@...>
> Subject: Re: lynda
>
> Our experience was when we went to pick up two yearling Arab fillies and
> were coming back over the pass. I know it is only about 10,000 feet at
the
> summit but I'm sure it is really 10 MILLION feet down <g> For those that
> have never been there, you come up and then it is like someone cut the top
> off and the road is instantly flat so you don't really see what might be
in
> front of you. There was a gal parked right smack dab in the middle of the
> road standing by her car. We had three choices, hit her, the 10 million
> feet down the cliff face or putting the truck into the snow bank on the up
> side cliff face. My sister and I were in a panic because the last vehicle
> we passed was a big rig pulling half a modular home. All we could picture
> was horses plastered all over the road.
>
> At any rate, we got the fillies out and up the hill and tied to a couple
of
> trees. Then we went to deal with the one taco short of a combination
plate!
> Seems she had never driven in the snow before and the black ice scared
her.
> O.K., I can deal with that EXCEPT her husband was asleep in the back seat
> and she didn't want to wake him up because he really needed the sleep!
> Don't know who was more peeved at her, us or him. When he asked her why
she
> didn't wake him up (not in those words <g>), she said "But you look so
sweet
> and peaceful."
>
> Grrrr, did I mention one guy had already gone off the road? We luckily
had
> a winch on the truck to pull him back up the hill! Oh, and the truck with
> the modular had pulled off so the driver could take 10.
>
> Lynda
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: amy mathews <tlcamy@...>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 11:28 AM
> Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] lynda
>
>
> > we are very far from parker but, also very familiar with it
> > funny thing about the passes here, most Colorado drivers don't have any
> problems but out of state vehicles are more sluggish, has to do with air
> mixture I think
> > we have family in Iowa and are car runs much faster there
> > I no what you mean about everyone being cousins or related
> > ditto here
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Lynda
> > To: [email protected]
> > Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 11:47 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] lynda
> >
> >
> > Well, we are on the coast. You can see the Pacific Ocean from my
> upstairs
> > window. Almost everyone knows everyone else or is someone's cousin
and
> the
> > population number has been static since the 60s, so there is a real
> small
> > town feel to it. There are about 130,000 in this county which
> encompasses
> > 2.3 million acres which is about the size of 2 Delewares, 1 Rhode
Island
> and
> > the District of Columbia combined, if I remember my land masses
> correctly.
> >
> > Are you anywhere near Parker? We hauled Arabs to a ranch there once
and
> > made the mistake of driving over Rabbit Ears Pass in October <g>
Won't
> make
> > that mistake again!
> >
> > Lynda
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: amy mathews <tlcamy@...>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 8:00 PM
> > Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] lynda
> >
> >
> > > >you can't get any further west, at
> > > least not in the 48 states, than I am and I think at around 26,000
> this
> > town
> > > qualifies as small.
> > >
> > > how far west?
> > > we are in western colorado near utah
> > > as for small i believe their are 216 persons in this town
> > > 28,ooo in the county
> > > it is many miles larger than the county we moved from
> > > denver metro area 128,000
> > > Amy
> > >
> > >
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> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 18:08:06 -0700
> From: "Lynda" <lurine@...>
> Subject: Re: SHOUTING
>
> Oh, that brings back memories! My nanny was from Georgia and her son use
to
> say she had the loudest silences in the world! That was soooo true!!! I
> just thought it was her and now I've learned it may be a southern thingy
<g>
>
> Lynda
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Rachel Wolfe Ravenhart <ravenhart@...>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 12:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] SHOUTING
>
>
> >
> >
> > Dawn Scagnelli wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > May I calmly suggest that in many cases--at least where I
> > > live--shouting is
> > > cultural/ethnic?
> >
> > You certainly may! *G* My family is all Southern. We don't shout in
> > anger. Oh, we yell with the best of 'em to be heard over noise or
> > whatever, but anger...well, we get quiet, and EXTREMELY polite. My son
> > reflects this too. Yesterday I stepped on his Voltron toy, breaking part
> > of it and he looks at me, flushed, eyes snapping and in a tiny, quiet
> > little voice "Mother, I would realy prefer you don't step on my toys and
> > break tem please. Do you think you could replace my green lion?" He
> > sounded just LIKE me. So we went shopping for a new Voltron today and
> > had a lovely unschooling lesson in comparative pricing and monetary
> > values.
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> > Rachel Ravenhart
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> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 22:22:28 -0500
> From: Jessi <mistycal@...>
> Subject: Re: adult skin
>
> It only happens (excuse me guys) at that time of the month :o)
>
> Jessi
>
> At 06:09 AM 9/4/01 -0700, you wrote:
> >Hi Jessi
> >Have you asked your Doc if you have a staph infection?
> >Sharon
> >
> > > Maybe I need a whole bottle then J/K!!!! I have
> > > more problems with acne as
> > > an adult (34) than I ever did as a teen!!!
> > >
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> Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 23:31:11 EDT
> From: brendaclaspell@...
> Subject: Re: adult skin
>
> In a message dated 9/4/01 10:21:03 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
> mistycal@... writes:
>
>
> > It only happens (excuse me guys) at that time of the month :o)
> >
> >
>
> Well, I can relate to that! :-) But also at 'that time' I am on the prowl
for
> chocolate, lol.
> My best remedies have been eliminating dietary yucks and lots and lots of
> water. I know lots of different people have views on acne, diet, stress,
> condition, etc. I think for me it's different things at different times.
> Stress also kicks it off.
>
> There was a time where I was breastfeeding, vegan, drinking tons of water,
> doing yoga almost daily and getting massage once a week (I was in school
for
> it, it was free :-)). During that period I had no skin problems
whatsoever.
>
> Just thought I'd share...good luck!
>
> Brenda
>
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> Message: 12
> Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 07:09:08 -0000
> From: TarazSpot@...
> Subject: New to unschooling....HELP
>
> Hello all! I have visited unschooling.com numerous times
> and I just signed on to the loop. Here's a brief backgound....
> Although I have been reading John Holt for years this is my first
> step to unschool my children. We have three kids, Zach (9), Drew (6),
> and Chloe (who has always been unschooled...4 yrs.) Well, the boys
> were excited to be "homeschooled" this year and Thursday August 30th
> was spent at a park day for all the homeschoolers/unschoolers in our
> area. A few days have passed now and my oldest faces me today and
> loudly announces that I have not taught him A THING and how is he
> supposed to learn!!!?? So, I say quite calmly, well what would you
> like to learn?? He gets quite angry at my reponse and replies, "I
> don't know! You are just supposed to be teaching me something! I
> can't just watch T.V. all day!" LOL I laugh because my oldest is my
> most television addicted child. I respond, "anything you want to do
> is fine with me...math, science, play a game, anything." He walked
> away in a huff. A short time later he did bring out a game and we
> all played. I could tell he was still very bothered by my lack
> of "formal lessons" and after the game was finished I brought out his
> math book from the last school year. I showed him the book and
> explained to him that the work inside was extremely easy (it is far
> below his abilities) and he agreed. I then showed him that out of an
> entire year the book had not even been halfway completed. I pointed
> out that I felt if he wanted to do it he could sit and complete the
> entire book in a day or two. He wouldn't have to wait for the teacher
> or for kids who did not understand, etc.. He kind of laughed in
> agreement with me. He did not, and I did not expect him to, work in
> the book but helped put the game away and went back to the T.V.
> I can tell he does not grasp what I am explaining fully. He still
> does not understand why I am not sitting down and "teaching" him.
> Is "unschooling" a philosphy that I should sit and explain to him in
> detail? I have made numerous points to him but never totally and
> completely explained. The funny thing is I expected him to be
> thrilled by the fact that he was not going to be made to "work" and
> instead his reaction caught me totally offguard!! I really should
> have known better!!!!
>
> By the way....the television is somewhat of a problem. My husband
> will not let me take it out of the house, which is what I want to do!
> My son CAN sit in front of that thing for hours if I were to let him
> and I almost feel he has been doing just that for the past couple
> days as a silent protest against my method of "instruction." He did
> not watch much television over the summer and now he cannot seem to
> be able to shut it off. Of course, it may be that all of his
> neighborhood friends have gone off to school. For the time being
> should I plan lots of activity in the home...experiments, read
> outloud time, playing games, etc...my car is broken down and won't be
> ready for a least a week. Some unschoolers believe that I should just
> let boredom take it's toll and let the kids lead the activity when
> they are ready. Any thoughts on this??????
> Thank you all...I would appreciate ANY input!
> Tara
>
>
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> Message: 13
> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 16:30:14 +0900
> From: "noemi hiraishi" <noeminh@...>
> Subject: Thank you for the Welcome
>
> It was very comforting and nice to read Mary welcome me into the
> list. I know that many more of you there have said a silent
> welcome to my self introduction. I just wanted to know how much
> it meant to me. It is still hard not to hear the voice deep
> inside me saying that I am not a native English speaker/writer
> and that I am exposing myself publicly. The complex of having
> been born in in-development-country is still here. I know that
> it does not count. But it is here...
>
> Thank you for your encouragement and caring!
>
>
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Tia Leschke

> i did
>not point out to him all the learning he does when he is building entire
>cities outside with blocks of sawed off wood.. or when he sits for hours and
>designs cities etc... he so far does not see that as learning.. and i told
>him that he is actually lucky to have been able to be with his dad when he
>tore down an entire old barn.. and now they are rebuilding a barn on our
>land with the materials .. he also does not see that as learning.. so with
>this kid i guess i will continue to print off pages for him to do untill he
>gets sick of it maybe???

Maybe you could translate some of the learning you know he's done into
educationese and show that to him. Also maybe find him some info on what
it takes to become a city planner or architect, since he seems interested
in those kinds of things.
Tia
ps When you reply to the digest, it's considerate to delete all but what
you're replying to. (Actually that's true for any reply.) Also changing
the subject line helps people see whether it's something they're interested in.

Tia Leschke leschke@...
On Vancouver Island
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