Re: 18 and 21 year olds
Pam Hartley
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"the study of it" in a formal, graded setting would put his teeth on edge.
Drywall guys make good money. Certainly enough to support a loved amateur
career in music if it didn't pay for itself. He may much prefer to sweat
during the day and play for fun at night rather than do some bread-earning
thing with music during the day and do the good parts of music at night.
I've loved books since I read "Are You My Mother" in first grade, but I
couldn't find a good and fun way to make a career of them until three years
ago. I'll be 35 in a few days. I love to write more than anything, but at
this time I don't want to study it, or try to earn my money from it. I may
change my mind. Your son may change his.
My first boyfriend was the son of a very well-published author. He loved to
draw more than he loved to breathe. He was a quirky, talented artist who
drew in abstract. His mother wanted him to draw "real things" and sell them.
This was not what he wanted.
What makes you think that it's fear that is keeping him from school? (That's
a real question, not sarcastic, I'm curious).
Pam
>From: [email protected]Maybe he likes music so much he doesn't want to do it for a career. Maybe
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] Digest Number 1399
>Date: Sat, Sep 1, 2001, 12:29 AM
>
> My son 17 is working as an apprentice doing dry wall with my friends
> husband. He says he would rather do that than go to college. So we did not
> force him to go and take the music classes he had previously chosen. I know
> he likes music more than doing dry wall we have talked about that in the
> past. I am worried he will give up his music and be a dry waller just
> because he is afraid to go to school! I wonder sometimes how to get them
> out of their comfort zone and try something new and challenging!
"the study of it" in a formal, graded setting would put his teeth on edge.
Drywall guys make good money. Certainly enough to support a loved amateur
career in music if it didn't pay for itself. He may much prefer to sweat
during the day and play for fun at night rather than do some bread-earning
thing with music during the day and do the good parts of music at night.
I've loved books since I read "Are You My Mother" in first grade, but I
couldn't find a good and fun way to make a career of them until three years
ago. I'll be 35 in a few days. I love to write more than anything, but at
this time I don't want to study it, or try to earn my money from it. I may
change my mind. Your son may change his.
My first boyfriend was the son of a very well-published author. He loved to
draw more than he loved to breathe. He was a quirky, talented artist who
drew in abstract. His mother wanted him to draw "real things" and sell them.
This was not what he wanted.
What makes you think that it's fear that is keeping him from school? (That's
a real question, not sarcastic, I'm curious).
Pam
[email protected]
<< > My son 17 is working as an apprentice doing dry wall with my friends
husband. He says he would rather do that than go to college >>
Hi-
We have a small moving business in Colorado. If it's any consolation, most of
the guys that work for us are college grads. We had an especially good crew
a few years ago from Bates College. One was working for us part time to
supplement his real job in a homeless shelter (a philosophy major). One of
our new guys is a recent Cornell graduate, one has a journalism degree, one
has a degree in something related to the physics of water, but I'm not sure
what that is. These guys comes and go and the thing they seem to have in
common is a state of flux plus strong interests that they are pursuing
independent of the education they have. One musician who worked for us is
touring the US now with a 10 piece mambo-samba-tango type Latin band. Doing
blue collar work paid for his expenses while they got the band together and
started getting regular bookings.
I think my point is that your son will be ok. These young men are full of
energy and life and will work it out. (Though I know your angst. My
brilliant 16yo son is happy to work with his dad while I worry about his
talents wasting away....)
Good luck-
Valerie
husband. He says he would rather do that than go to college >>
Hi-
We have a small moving business in Colorado. If it's any consolation, most of
the guys that work for us are college grads. We had an especially good crew
a few years ago from Bates College. One was working for us part time to
supplement his real job in a homeless shelter (a philosophy major). One of
our new guys is a recent Cornell graduate, one has a journalism degree, one
has a degree in something related to the physics of water, but I'm not sure
what that is. These guys comes and go and the thing they seem to have in
common is a state of flux plus strong interests that they are pursuing
independent of the education they have. One musician who worked for us is
touring the US now with a 10 piece mambo-samba-tango type Latin band. Doing
blue collar work paid for his expenses while they got the band together and
started getting regular bookings.
I think my point is that your son will be ok. These young men are full of
energy and life and will work it out. (Though I know your angst. My
brilliant 16yo son is happy to work with his dad while I worry about his
talents wasting away....)
Good luck-
Valerie
[email protected]
In a message dated 9/1/01 10:55:03 AM, gulfy@... writes:
<< one
has a degree in something related to the physics of water, but I'm not sure
what that is >>
Flow dynamics maybe? Or hydro engineering?
All that stuff fascinates me. I love to hear stories. Probably part of that
fascination comes from living in New Meixco, where water comes down really
hard sometimes and roars down arroyos just to disappear, and it's all dry in
a few hours.
Very good point about college grads working drywall after. And being
waiters, and working at Hollywood Video. And having to pay off college loans
while their co-workers get new cars and can afford the payments.
Sandra
"Everything counts."
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<< one
has a degree in something related to the physics of water, but I'm not sure
what that is >>
Flow dynamics maybe? Or hydro engineering?
All that stuff fascinates me. I love to hear stories. Probably part of that
fascination comes from living in New Meixco, where water comes down really
hard sometimes and roars down arroyos just to disappear, and it's all dry in
a few hours.
Very good point about college grads working drywall after. And being
waiters, and working at Hollywood Video. And having to pay off college loans
while their co-workers get new cars and can afford the payments.
Sandra
"Everything counts."
http://expage.com/SandraDoddArticles
http://expage.com/SandraDodd
[email protected]
In a message dated 9/1/01 4:46:27 PM, SandraDodd@... writes:
<< Flow dynamics maybe? Or hydro engineering? >>
That sounds right. He's moving on to a job with the National Center for
Atmospheric Research so maybe it's the flow from way up all the way down.
Valerie
<< Flow dynamics maybe? Or hydro engineering? >>
That sounds right. He's moving on to a job with the National Center for
Atmospheric Research so maybe it's the flow from way up all the way down.
Valerie