Andi Kaufman

Hi, My name is andi kaufman. I just joined and I am already loving the
email I have been recieving. I am hsing my son isaac 8yo. He was in ps for
K-2. @nd was a bad experience and he started getting stomach aches. I
always knew he would have to pulled out by 3rd grade cus he would need more
then they could give him. A good friend hsed so I knew alot about it and I
was pro hs for many years. Making the decision was hard, hard to convince
my partner. It took Isaac about 3 mo of boredom and tv to deschool. we do
use some workbooks and there are times I "make" him do some but not too
often.


Andi...domestic goddess and active volunteer
mom to Isaac
tl2b@...

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Hi Andi! Glad to see you here. I knew you would like this list. How about
the curfew stuff? Are you familiar with any of it? Do we have a curfew in
Pittsburgh and a fine?

Cindy

Andi Kaufman

>Hi Andi! Glad to see you here. I knew you would like this list. How about
>the curfew stuff? Are you familiar with any of it? Do we have a curfew in
>Pittsburgh and a fine?

Hi Cin,

as far as i know, i have never heard of a cufew in pgh.

Andi...domestic goddess and active volunteer
mom to Isaac
tl2b@...

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In a message dated 6/3/99 5:03:43 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
tl2b@... writes:

<< Hi, My name is andi kaufman. I just joined and I am already loving the
email I have been recieving. I am hsing my son isaac 8yo. He was in ps for
K-2. @nd was a bad experience and he started getting stomach aches. I
always knew he would have to pulled out by 3rd grade cus he would need more
then they could give him. >>

Good for you, Andi! I had stomachaches all through school. They never went
away.
The STRESS!! My 8 y.o. liked kindergarten for about 3 months, then she
started
"complaining" in the morning about still being tired. In first grade, the
"crying" started. My mornings went something like this:
"Michelle, what's wrong honey?"
"Nothing".
"Why are you crying?"
"I don't know".
"Don't you like school honey?"
"I guess so".
"Well, hurry up and get dressed, you don't want to be late".
This was like an everyday thing. I finally set her free in Feb. Now she
sleeps in till 8 or 9, sometimes gets dressed and never cries in the morning
anymore(smile).
Mary Ellen.

Andi Kaufman

mary ellen wrote:
>This was like an everyday thing. I finally set her free in Feb. Now she
>sleeps in till 8 or 9, sometimes gets dressed and never cries in the morning
>anymore(smile).

Isaac now gets up early but relaxes and plays all morning. and there are no
more fights about going place. we plan time otgether, he knows what we have
to do , what i have to do and he gets to chose some of what he wants to do.
I like it this way.

Andi...domestic goddess and active volunteer
mom to Isaac
tl2b@...

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Cindy Ferguson

I just found a post I want to comment on so I decided to write my
intro first.

I'm Cindy, married to Rob. We have two children, Megan age 4 and
Alex age 1.83333... I have a grown child from my first marriage,
Justin. He's 24 and did/is still doing the traditional school
thing -- he's a grad student at UC Santa Cruz working on his Ph. D.
in astronomy. He's been interested in astronomy since he was 4 BTW.

I didn't like the way schools were when Justin was in school and they've
gotten worse since then. Rob and I had some long discussions about
what we wanted for Megan and Alex. We both independently reached
the conclusion that we would homeschool them. Then I learned about
unschooling and realized that was how we would live our life!

I would say I am a complete unschooler with bouts of anxiety from
time to time. I have unschooled both Megan and Alex since birth.
I also realize that I sort of unschooled Justin in that I (and his
father) supported his outside-of-school interests.

I live in Sunnyvale, CA.

Megan currently attends a coop preschool. I had some doubts about
this last fall. She is very happy there; the program is very
unstructured. It's more like a park day with art projects, dress up
clothes and music activities too. We will be continuing that for
next year for her and probably for Alex too when he's old enough.
The main reason I utilize it is that I have had difficulty
finding a good support group with younger children involved. We
went to one last summer but Megan ended playing with other children
in the park rather than the homeschool group. I couldn't justify
interrupting Alex's naptime when we could just go to the park at
any old time and get similar results! What do others do for social
activities with young ones?

--

Cindy Ferguson
crma@...

A.Y.

> What do others do for social
> activities with young ones?

Cindy,
Most of the social activities that my kids have are with each other, and
when we make trips to town. Then occasionally we get together with
friends. Even more occasionally, we get together with a group of kids.
I like the kids to be friends with themselves and their family first.
BTW, my kids are 6, 4, and 3.
Ann

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Having jumped in and offerred my opinion on college admission, I suppose I
ought to take a minute and introduce myself...BG

Our family includes 2 'children', boys, ages 10 and 21. Along the way we
have added a daughter in law and a grand-daughter.

My oldest son started home education in the middle of his eigth grade year.
The final straw was frustration over the school interfering in our home
schedule...hubby worked out of town at the time and we wanted to take a long
weekend and go visit him instead of waiting for him to get away to see us.
The school, in their infinite wisdom, didn't think that was an appropriate
reason to miss a day of school and informed us that if he wasn't in school he
would not be allowed to make up any work and would automatically fail all
classes. So, we took back the reigns of his education and have never
regretted it.

Our youngest boy has never been to public school, except to support cousins
by attending concerts and such. I don't anticipate that changing. We are
very happy with our decision to educate at home.

We used more unschooling than anything regulated with the oldest. It was a
bit nerve wracking and I had to keep checking my gut to be sure it was the
right decision for us. It was often hard to see that any learning was
actually happening. Then the rascal decided to pass his GED on the first try
with no studying and having not participated in any sort of 'educational'
activity for over 2 years. So, now I'm much more comfortable with it.

Still, there are days that I get compulsive or have friends/family members
question what I'm doing and why. So, I thought I'd try hanging out with some
people that understand.

Eiraul (really, it's Laurie, but I run into enough of those that I thought
I'd use my nick name to help avoid confusion ;-)

dawn

i just wanted to take a few minutes to introduce myself. i'm dawn h-s, i
eschew the cap key, stink at spelling, rarely have time topoofread my
posts, and teach college level writing as my main money earning occupation
(as pitiful as the money is). I also love parenthetical asides.

my main occupation and passion is raising my boyz. one, N, will be 7 in
december, and the other, A, was 4 a few weeks ago. although i teach as a
profession, hold a teaching certificate, and am even teaching a course
full of honors education majors *in* the building that houses the college
of education at the uni where I teach, we are unschoolers, and for good
reason;) i know from whence i speak. although i've not always know i
would unschool my kids (actually, I geuss they unschool themselves), i
have known from way before even *having* children that i would hs. i was
schooled-at-home for a while way, way, way back when--even before holt
started writing about it (in fact, on of my hs'ing assignments was
watching nixon resign, if i remember correctly).

what else? i started doing year-end assessments for some area hs'ers this
past fall. a very enjoyable experience, and i learned a lot doing it.
between that and being an advisor for a homeschooler 4-H club, i'm
starting to feel like i'm "with it" wrt other homeschoolers in our area,
albeit they are mostly quite structured, which is nice. my older son is
fortunate in that his closest friends are all hs'ed from the start,
relationships the developed out of attending LLL when our kids were
babies. he has only recenlty made a close friend who goes to school. he
frequenlty comments on how school interferes with that friendship:/ never
once has he asked to go to school to spend more time with his friend.

my ohter son generally dislikes most kids and prefers to go off and play
with playmobile or dig in dirt byhimself (today he spent 2 hours "working"
on dirt removal at the park--whatever).

this list came highly recommended. and i've enjoyed what i've seen of it.


dawn h-s






dawn h-s

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In a message dated 09/08/1999 9:39:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dawn@...
writes:

<< just wanted to take a few minutes to introduce myself. i'm dawn h-s, >>

Hi Dawn

I'm Sam(antha) and I'm in FL....I u/s my 14yodd (the only one left at home).
What state are you in?

Sam

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In a message dated 9/9/99 7:57:32 AM EST, Sam926@... writes:

<< I'm Sam(antha) and I'm in FL....I u/s my 14yodd (the only one left at
home).
What state are you in?
>>
Sam in Fl, HI! I'm Teresa in Fl. Are you in the Keys? I forget who I have
talked to sometimes, brain freeze!

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In a message dated 9/8/99 5:39:59 PM, dawn@... writes:

<<I also love parenthetical asides.>>

Me, too! My teenage writing ended up with deeply nested, complicated sets of
parenthesis in it.

You might like the book _The Edison Trait_. One third of it is about dreamy
people who cannot stick to one point long enough to finish a sentence,
without branching off in a new direction.

Betsy, flitting and branchin

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In a message dated 09/09/1999 9:26:16 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
Hsmotgo@... writes:

<< Sam in Fl, HI! I'm Teresa in Fl. Are you in the Keys? I forget who I have
talked to sometimes, brain freeze! >>


Hi Teresa....where are you? I'm in Jacksonville. We were in the Keys, but
only on vacation about a month ago......only a month????seems like a year!!

Sam

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In a message dated 9/9/99 11:25:38 AM EST, Sam926@... writes:

<< Hi Teresa....where are you? I'm in Jacksonville >>
Sam, lol, I know just what you mean. Time flies doesn't it? I remember when
the summer was forever, but now, its just gone!
We are in Miami, or a little north of Miami. I know there is someone on this
list who is in the Keys, just don't remember who!
Anyway, welcome.

Teresa

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In a message dated 09/09/1999 12:37:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Hsmotgo@... writes:

<< I know there is someone on this
list who is in the Keys, just don't remember who! >>

I know that Sharon, who lives in Puerto Rico (? - I can't remember if that's
right) was in the Keys for awhile but I think she's back home now.

Sam

Thomas and Nanci Kuykendall

><<I also love parenthetical asides.>>
>
>Me, too! My teenage writing ended up with deeply nested, complicated sets
of
>parenthesis in it.
>
>You might like the book _The Edison Trait_. One third of it is about dreamy
>people who cannot stick to one point long enough to finish a sentence,
>without branching off in a new direction.
>
>Betsy, flitting and branchin

Will you guys PLEASE quit talking about me...! ;-)

Nanci K. in Idaho

dawn

>
> You might like the book _The Edison Trait_. One third of it is about dreamy
> people who cannot stick to one point long enough to finish a sentence,
> without branching off in a new direction.

I've had that sitting on my shelf for a couple of years. I just haven't
made time to focus on it. I bought it with my son in mind....

dhs

Tracy Oldfield

____________________________________________________________________________
___
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 17:03:19 -0600
> From: Thomas and Nanci Kuykendall <tn-k4of5@...>
> Subject: Re: intro
>
> ><<I also love parenthetical asides.>>
> >
> >Me, too! My teenage writing ended up with deeply nested, complicated
sets
> of
> >parenthesis in it.
> >
> >You might like the book _The Edison Trait_. One third of it is about
dreamy
> >people who cannot stick to one point long enough to finish a sentence,
> >without branching off in a new direction.
> >
> >Betsy, flitting and branchin
>
> Will you guys PLEASE quit talking about me...! ;-)
>
> Nanci K. in Idaho
>
>
>
And me! Well known for 'going off at tangents...'

Bws
Tracy

rick and deborah farrington

you made me feel better betsy, i flit and branch too!! DEborah

ECSamHill@... wrote:

> From: ECSamHill@...
>
> In a message dated 9/8/99 5:39:59 PM, dawn@... writes:
>
> <<I also love parenthetical asides.>>
>
> Me, too! My teenage writing ended up with deeply nested, complicated sets of
> parenthesis in it.
>
> You might like the book _The Edison Trait_. One third of it is about dreamy
> people who cannot stick to one point long enough to finish a sentence,
> without branching off in a new direction.
>
> Betsy, flitting and branchin
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Betsy wrote:
<< One third of it is about dreamy
people who cannot stick to one point long enough to finish a sentence,
without branching off in a new direction.
>>

Boy, does that sound like me. My friends hate talking to me on the phone,
because I keep going off on tangents. I just can't help it!

The only problem is...I have little patience with my kids when they do it
(and I have one who is VERY branchy like Mom) because I have a hard time
keeping track!

Living and learning...
Carol from WI

B & T Simpson

>

><< One third of it is about dreamy
> people who cannot stick to one point long enough to finish a sentence,
> without branching off in a new direction.
> >>
>
>Boy, does that sound like me. My friends hate talking to me on the phone,
>because I keep going off on tangents. I just can't help it!
>
>The only problem is...I have little patience with my kids when they do it
>(and I have one who is VERY branchy like Mom) because I have a hard time
>keeping track!
>
>Living and learning...
>Carol from WI >>>>

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you for homeschooling, may God bless you! Deborah

Susan Ellis wrote:

> From: susanspets@... (Susan Ellis)
>
> Hi everyone! My name is Susan , single mom to Matthew (almost 4yo).
> I've been lurking on this list for months now and decided to come out
> of hiding. I guess what made me decide to come out of lurkdom is that
> you all sound so knowledgeable, or at least have had some experiences
> that I too have had. The whole " stalking " conversation really hit
> home , as well as the varied views on holiday customs.
> I don't really want to get off the unschooling topic, but I've had a
> situation here that really has me down, and I'm hoping that maybe some
> of you will have some words of wisdom for me.
> I've recently gone thru a court battle with my son's father. He wanted
> visitation, I wanted child support. During the whole process with him ,
> my overbearing mother jumped on the bandwagon and sued for grandparents
> rights. To make a long story short, I got my little bit of child
> support (very little), he got joint custody, changing my son's last
> name to his, gets visitation every weekend, and my controlling mother
> gets him all day, one day a week. My lawyer didn't bother to show up to
> represent me ( my third one , I might add).
> Now my problem isn't really with the dad, but with the domineering
> mother. No lawyer will give me advice on how to divorce a parent, the
> statute of limitations on child abuse and neglect, etc. I just want to
> raise my son in peace and this woman will not stop interfering in my
> life !!! I know that when she finds out that my son will be unschooled
> , she's not only gonna hit the roof, but she will get a court order to
> try and foce me to put him in school. The same with my religious
> beliefs, she won't respect the way I choose to raise my child, and is
> trying to force her beliefs down my son's neck on her day of visitation.
> I'm really sorry this is such a long post. If anyone has any good advice
> for me , please email me privately, so as not to tie up the list.
> Thanks for listening, Susan
>
> > Check it out!
> http://www.unschooling.com

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Hi everyone! My name is Susan , single mom to Matthew (almost 4yo).
I've been lurking on this list for months now and decided to come out
of hiding. I guess what made me decide to come out of lurkdom is that
you all sound so knowledgeable, or at least have had some experiences
that I too have had. The whole " stalking " conversation really hit
home , as well as the varied views on holiday customs.
I don't really want to get off the unschooling topic, but I've had a
situation here that really has me down, and I'm hoping that maybe some
of you will have some words of wisdom for me.
I've recently gone thru a court battle with my son's father. He wanted
visitation, I wanted child support. During the whole process with him ,
my overbearing mother jumped on the bandwagon and sued for grandparents
rights. To make a long story short, I got my little bit of child
support (very little), he got joint custody, changing my son's last
name to his, gets visitation every weekend, and my controlling mother
gets him all day, one day a week. My lawyer didn't bother to show up to
represent me ( my third one , I might add).
Now my problem isn't really with the dad, but with the domineering
mother. No lawyer will give me advice on how to divorce a parent, the
statute of limitations on child abuse and neglect, etc. I just want to
raise my son in peace and this woman will not stop interfering in my
life !!! I know that when she finds out that my son will be unschooled
, she's not only gonna hit the roof, but she will get a court order to
try and foce me to put him in school. The same with my religious
beliefs, she won't respect the way I choose to raise my child, and is
trying to force her beliefs down my son's neck on her day of visitation.
I'm really sorry this is such a long post. If anyone has any good advice
for me , please email me privately, so as not to tie up the list.
Thanks for listening, Susan

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In a message dated 9/30/99 3:24:29 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
susanspets@... writes:

<< If anyone has any good advice
for me , please email me privately, so as not to tie up the list.
Thanks for listening, Susan
>>

Susan, start saving, and get a good lawyer. Period, a good lawyer is worth
his weight in gold. Also, you may want to refrain from using the word
homeschool in front of your 4 yo, just mention that he will be attending
private school.

Also, I'd appeal to the court requesting that the day of visitation be
changed to a weekend day. So she doesn't go any near a school. If I
couldn't file a request to have her stop teaching religious beliefs contrary
to your beliefs.

Charlotte

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In a message dated 9/30/99 3:55:08 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Rhiahl@...
writes:

<< Also, I'd appeal to the court requesting that the day of visitation be
changed to a weekend day. So she doesn't go any near a school. If I
couldn't file a request to have her stop teaching religious beliefs contrary
to your beliefs. >>

Ack, I'm so bad I didn't finish this. The first Monday in October is an
interesting date in US Government. On that day the Supreme Court begins
reviewing the cases it's accepted. One of the cases up for review this year
is the issue of Grandparents rights.

Might be an issue you'd want to keep an eye on.

Charlotte

Sara Johnson

Hi everyone!

My name is Sara Johnson & I am new to this list. I am 30 & married with 2
children. My son is 6 & my daughter is 3.5. We're really just winging it &
don't have a lot of support or connections around homeschooling yet so
that's what I'm looking for--inspiration, encouragement & answers to my
questions from people who've been there. I've been with my kids from the
beginning. My daughter is still nursing. I work part time giving care to a
quadripeligic & my children come with me. I am also a Raw Food Chef. My
interests include learning how to achieve vibrant health, working out,
making collages, playing games & sometimes movies. I look forward to
getting acquainted with you all.

Sara
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Hi
my name is max. Im a 17 year old queer youth from the san fransico bay
area who is active in the left and queer community. Im looking to start
unschooling and im here to get info and to see what others are doing.
thanks
max

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Dear Max,
Welcome! My family and I live in Richmond across the bay from you. My
daughter, Jenny, is 19 and has been unschooled. She's currently taking
classes at City College. She says she'd like to correspond. I'll send you her
e-dress privately. (She just got home and is eating her dinner.) Do you know
about the "Teenage Liberation" handbook? Love, Amalia Darling

Lynda

The world is getting smaller. I was born there (SF) and grew up in the East
Bay. We take trips down there routinely. Lot of history there since
Grandma Dorothy was born during the 1906 earthquake and as found on a park
bence.

Lynda
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nanci and Thomas Kuykendall" <tn-k4of5@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 11:22 AM
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] intro


>
> >My daughter, Jenny, is 19 and has been unschooled. She's currently taking
classes at City College.
> Amalia Darling
>
> Wow...blast from the past. I used to go there when I lived in San
Francisco. That's where I grew up.
>
> Nanci K.
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>My daughter, Jenny, is 19 and has been unschooled. She's currently taking classes at City College.
Amalia Darling

Wow...blast from the past. I used to go there when I lived in San Francisco. That's where I grew up.

Nanci K.

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