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In a message dated 08/25/2001 6:59:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:


> << I taught him to write haiku (it's short, has a
> structure, and doesn't force stupid rhymes.). H >>
>
> what is the structure of a haiku anyway.... I can't remember:)
>

Haiku is usually three lines. First line has 5 syllables, second has 7, third
has 5. They traditionally have a theme of Nature.

What I like about it is that it avoids rhyme. Rhyming poetry is incredibly
hard to do well, so you have all these children in school who write BAD
poetry because they're told it should rhyme. Kids aren't stupid--they KNOW
it's bad. Starting with haiku is great because three lines isn't too scary,
and it's not hard to come up with something good. Julian's first poem, about
one of our cats (used with permission):

Soft, loving kitty
A tortoise shell cat in the sun
A very patient feline.

If you want a great book about writing poetry with kids, try A Celebration of
Bees, by Barbara Juster Esbensen.

Kathryn



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Mercedes

What's the origin of Haiku? Can anyone tell me.

~Mercy

-----Original Message-----
From: SandraDodd@... <SandraDodd@...>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Date: Saturday, August 25, 2001 3:14 PM
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] Current American Haiku


>Some of these (not all!!) break tradition on the "nature" part, although
>they are a tie in between the nature of computer errors and the nature of
>people. <g>
>
>They're from Salon.com (not for children, that site, but these shouldn't
>hurt).
>
>W I N N E R S:
>Three things are certain:
>Death, taxes, and lost data.
>Guess which has occurred.
>
>-- David Dixon
>- - - - - - - - - - - -
>Everything is gone;
>Your life's work has been destroyed.
>Squeeze trigger (yes/no)?
>
>-- David Carlson
>
>
>H O N O R A B L E __M E N T I O N S:
>I'm sorry, there's -- um --
>insufficient -- what's-it-called?
>The term eludes me ...
>
>-- Owen Mathews
>- - - - - - - - - - - -
>Windows NT crashed.
>I am the Blue Screen of Death.
>No one hears your screams.
>
>-- Peter Rothman
>- - - - - - - - - - - -
>Seeing my great fault
>Through darkening blue windows
>I begin again
>
>-- Chris Walsh
>- - - - - - - - - - - -
>The code was willing,
>It considered your request,
>But the chips were weak.
>
>-- Barry L. Brumitt
>- - - - - - - - - - - -
>Printer not ready.
>Could be a fatal error.
>Have a pen handy?
>
>-- Pat Davis
>- - - - - - - - - - - -
>A file that big?
>It might be very useful.
>But now it is gone.
>
>-- David J. Liszewski
>- - - - - - - - - - - -
>Errors have occurred.
>We won't tell you where or why.
>Lazy programmers.
>
>-- Charlie Gibbs
>- - - - - - - - - - - -
>Server's poor response
>Not quick enough for browser.
>Timed out, plum blossom.
>
>-- Rik Jespersen
>- - - - - - - - - - - -
>Chaos reigns within.
>Reflect, repent, and reboot.
>Order shall return.
>
>-- Suzie Wagner
>- - - - - - - - - - - -
>Login incorrect.
>Only perfect spellers may
>enter this system.
>
>-- Jason Axley
>- - - - - - - - - - - -
>This site has been moved.
>We'd tell you where, but then we'd
>have to delete you.
>
>-- Charles Matthews
>- - - - - - - - - - - -
>wind catches lily
>scatt'ring petals to the wind:
>segmentation fault
>
>-- Nick Sweeney
>- - - - - - - - - - - -
>ABORTED effort:
>Close all that you have.
>You ask way too much.
>
>-- Mike Hagler
>- - - - - - - - - - - -
>First snow, then silence.
>This thousand dollar screen dies
>so beautifully.
>
>-- Simon Firth
>- - - - - - - - - - - -
>With searching comes loss
>and the presence of absence:
>"My Novel" not found.
>
>-- Howard Korder
>- - - - - - - - - - - -
>The Tao that is seen
>Is not the true Tao, until
>You bring fresh toner.
>
>-- Bill Torcaso
>- - - - - - - - - - - -
>The Web site you seek
>cannot be located but
>endless others exist
>
>-- Joy Rothke
>- - - - - - - - - - - -
>Stay the patient course
>Of little worth is your ire
>The network is down
>
>-- David Ansel
>- - - - - - - - - - - -
>A crash reduces
>your expensive computer
>to a simple stone.
>
>-- James Lopez
>- - - - - - - - - - - -
>There is a chasm
>of carbon and silicon
>the software can't bridge
>
>-- Rahul Sonnad
>- - - - - - - - - - - -
>Yesterday it worked
>Today it is not working
>Windows is like that
>
>-- Margaret Segall
>- - - - - - - - - - - -
>To have no errors
>Would be life without meaning
>No struggle, no joy
>
>-- Brian M. Porter
>- - - - - - - - - - - -
>You step in the stream,
>but the water has moved on.
>This page is not here.
>
>-- Cass Whittington
>- - - - - - - - - - - -
>No keyboard present
>Hit F1 to continue
>Zen engineering?
>
>-- Jim Griffith
>- - - - - - - - - - - -
>Hal, open the file
>Hal, open the damn file, Hal
>open the, please Hal
>
>-- Jennifer Jo Lane
>- - - - - - - - - - - -
>Out of memory.
>We wish to hold the whole sky,
>But we never will.
>
>-- Francis Heaney
>- - - - - - - - - - - -
>Having been erased,
>The document you're seeking
>Must now be retyped.
>
>-- Judy Birmingham
>- - - - - - - - - - - -
>The ten thousand things
>How long do any persist?
>Netscape, too, has gone.
>
>-- Jason Willoughby
>- - - - - - - - - - - -
>Rather than a beep
>Or a rude error message,
>These words: "File not found."
>
>-- Len Dvorkin
>- - - - - - - - - - - -
>Serious error.
>All shortcuts have disappeared.
>Screen. Mind. Both are blank.
>
>-- Ian Hughes
>
>
>
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> What's the origin of Haiku? Can anyone tell me.
>Mercy


Haiku is Japanese poetry and is very old - derived from a more
fundamental form of poetry called Tanka. Tanka is traditionally thirty
one syllables ( 5-7-5-7-7 )

Some very famous Japanese Haiku poets are Matsuo Basho (1644-1694? )
Taniguchi Buson (1715-1783 ) and Issa (1762-1826 ) There is another , a
student of Basho , named Kikaku about whom I know nothing: and Masaoka
Shiki a later Haiku poet whose works I have never read.
There is a book called " A Few Flies and I ; Haiku by Issa " by Jean
Merrill.

An example of Haiku by Issa

If you are tender to them
The young sparrows
Will poop on you.

No, I didn't just make that up. If it doesn't follow the 5-7-5 pattern
it is because of the translation from the original Japanese.

Deb L