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I was wondering if you get that back to school feeling still?
I was talking to my 11 year old son about back to school feelings.
We had driven past his old school today, school starts next Monday,
and I assume the teachers were there early to prepare for the school
season.
I felt alot of feelings just watching him gaze.
Guilt was one and relief was another of the many. This back to school
"feeling" is a real grabber. And I mean it only in the terms of back to
public school. Who in the world of homeschool would think to put so
much pressure on children and their parents? Some kids are excited,
and some kids are really very sad. I thought the sad feelings were
just something spoiled kids pouted about, but now I think their feelings are
very
real. Almost depression like.
My parents used to say " oh, you will get over it" actually nope I never
did!
Feels like the whole world is going to school but us.
This of course is our first real year, yep, I am apprehensive, because I
am in charge. The only one I could hold a meeting regarding my sons
behavior is myself ! yikes. Sure beats those IEP meetings.
P.S. I think I am still pretty angry schools are what they are.
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I was talking to my 11 year old son about back to school feelings.
We had driven past his old school today, school starts next Monday,
and I assume the teachers were there early to prepare for the school
season.
I felt alot of feelings just watching him gaze.
Guilt was one and relief was another of the many. This back to school
"feeling" is a real grabber. And I mean it only in the terms of back to
public school. Who in the world of homeschool would think to put so
much pressure on children and their parents? Some kids are excited,
and some kids are really very sad. I thought the sad feelings were
just something spoiled kids pouted about, but now I think their feelings are
very
real. Almost depression like.
My parents used to say " oh, you will get over it" actually nope I never
did!
Feels like the whole world is going to school but us.
This of course is our first real year, yep, I am apprehensive, because I
am in charge. The only one I could hold a meeting regarding my sons
behavior is myself ! yikes. Sure beats those IEP meetings.
P.S. I think I am still pretty angry schools are what they are.
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Castle Crawford
>I was wondering if you get that back to school feeling still?<I know how you feel. School started here last Monday, and the Sunday before that, Wal-Mart was JAMMED with stressed out moms and jittery kids.
The kids were amazed that so many kids were buying paper! hehehe We picked up the school list for the school they would be attending and read over the supply list out of curiosity. This last week, we drove by on our way to the Sam Davis Home to take pictures of the corn and there were kids outside running around. I asked my oldest if he felt sad about not being with them and he said, "No, I just feel sad that they have to go. Mom? Can we go to the park and ride bikes and look for bugs?"
I guess he has no feelings about it, since he has never gone, but I found myself looking forward to the start of school. There are less kids out and it seems the 'bullies' are ALL mysteriously gone! Now the kids can play on the playground and use the pool in our community without a kid twice their age and half their intellect bossing them around...
It also seems that once school starts, we are able to get back on more of a schedule. It seems everything child-related revolves around school hours anyway.
So, maybe I don't get the same ones you do-but I DO have some back-to-school feelings.
Esther
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A
I too have school related feelings.....complete and utter relief and joy!!!
The last couple weeks I have heard both Moms and Dads talking about how they
can't wait for the kids to go back to school...this seems to be an accepted
feeling. I find it appalling. There are even many commercials echoing
this(exploiting this). It really makes me sick.
I am so very happy, and feel so very lucky to have my kids with me. I am glad
we get to share the journey together. Don't get me wrong there are plenty of
days I'm stressed and need a break from my kids, but that isn't any different
than being married. :) Seems like a normal part of life...finding the balance.
I also enjoy when all the kids go back and sort of "get out of our way". Most
place we go are more pleasant.
Ann
The last couple weeks I have heard both Moms and Dads talking about how they
can't wait for the kids to go back to school...this seems to be an accepted
feeling. I find it appalling. There are even many commercials echoing
this(exploiting this). It really makes me sick.
I am so very happy, and feel so very lucky to have my kids with me. I am glad
we get to share the journey together. Don't get me wrong there are plenty of
days I'm stressed and need a break from my kids, but that isn't any different
than being married. :) Seems like a normal part of life...finding the balance.
I also enjoy when all the kids go back and sort of "get out of our way". Most
place we go are more pleasant.
Ann
Tracy Oldfield
The kids were amazed that so many kids were buying
paper! hehehe We picked up the school list for the
school they would be attending and read over the supply
list out of curiosity. This last week, we drove by on
our way to the Sam Davis Home to take pictures of the
corn and there were kids outside running around. I
asked my oldest if he felt sad about not being with
them and he said, "No, I just feel sad that they have
to go. Mom? Can we go to the park and ride bikes and
look for bugs?"
I guess he has no feelings about it, since he has never
gone, but I found myself looking forward to the start
of school. There are less kids out and it seems the
'bullies' are ALL mysteriously gone! Now the kids can
play on the playground and use the pool in our
community without a kid twice their age and half their
intellect bossing them around...
It also seems that once school starts, we are able to
get back on more of a schedule. It seems everything
child-related revolves around school hours anyway.
So, maybe I don't get the same ones you do-but I DO
have some back-to-school feelings.
Esther
School doesn't start back here for another couple of
weeks, and I can't wait! I do have a child who wants
to go to school, however I cannot make space for such a
time-consuming hobby in our lives right now ;-) I am
expecting some fall-out because one child who my
children have spent quite a lot of time with this
Summer dumped my eldest like a hot rock when she went
back to school last year :-( And a baby due in a few
weeks... complicated times...
No doubt we'll get through it :-)
Tracy
paper! hehehe We picked up the school list for the
school they would be attending and read over the supply
list out of curiosity. This last week, we drove by on
our way to the Sam Davis Home to take pictures of the
corn and there were kids outside running around. I
asked my oldest if he felt sad about not being with
them and he said, "No, I just feel sad that they have
to go. Mom? Can we go to the park and ride bikes and
look for bugs?"
I guess he has no feelings about it, since he has never
gone, but I found myself looking forward to the start
of school. There are less kids out and it seems the
'bullies' are ALL mysteriously gone! Now the kids can
play on the playground and use the pool in our
community without a kid twice their age and half their
intellect bossing them around...
It also seems that once school starts, we are able to
get back on more of a schedule. It seems everything
child-related revolves around school hours anyway.
So, maybe I don't get the same ones you do-but I DO
have some back-to-school feelings.
Esther
School doesn't start back here for another couple of
weeks, and I can't wait! I do have a child who wants
to go to school, however I cannot make space for such a
time-consuming hobby in our lives right now ;-) I am
expecting some fall-out because one child who my
children have spent quite a lot of time with this
Summer dumped my eldest like a hot rock when she went
back to school last year :-( And a baby due in a few
weeks... complicated times...
No doubt we'll get through it :-)
Tracy
R Meyers
Yesterday my boys and I had a "thank God we aren't in school" ice cream at the local burger place........its right next to the public school and they just laughed and laughed at the thought of being cooped up in there all day while we were having ice cream to our hearts content. I loved it!
Rachel
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Rachel
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Tanya Barrera
The back to school feeling I first thought of was the scared queasy feeling I always got. I can still feel it when I observe most of the town getting ready for school. I am so glad my boys don't have to feel that helpless feel of no choice.
Otherwise, I love it when school starts also.We took our vacation last year in September. I picked hotels that had indoor pools & we usually had the pool to ourselves.
Our community pool closes when school starts!
Tanya
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Otherwise, I love it when school starts also.We took our vacation last year in September. I picked hotels that had indoor pools & we usually had the pool to ourselves.
Our community pool closes when school starts!
Tanya
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<< I also enjoy when all the kids go back and sort of "get out of our way". >>
I have mixed feelings about my relief that some are going back and getting
out of our house. There were a few "school kids" who spent a lot of time
here in the summer, because it was summer, and as school approached they
intensified their visiting, knowing the days of "no, you can't go to Kirby
and Marty's" were nigh. So it's nice for the house to be quieter, but also
kind of lonely.
Sandra
"Everything counts."
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I have mixed feelings about my relief that some are going back and getting
out of our house. There were a few "school kids" who spent a lot of time
here in the summer, because it was summer, and as school approached they
intensified their visiting, knowing the days of "no, you can't go to Kirby
and Marty's" were nigh. So it's nice for the house to be quieter, but also
kind of lonely.
Sandra
"Everything counts."
http://expage.com/SandraDoddArticles
http://expage.com/SandraDodd
Lynda
I cannot wait until school starts here!!! We have the unfortunately
pleasure of living across the street from the soap opera typical social
worker's family! My mantra has been for a month now, "hurry up August 28th,
hurry up August 28th!"
It will be soooo blissfully silent, or at least normally noisy when her kids
go back to school!!!
Lynda
pleasure of living across the street from the soap opera typical social
worker's family! My mantra has been for a month now, "hurry up August 28th,
hurry up August 28th!"
It will be soooo blissfully silent, or at least normally noisy when her kids
go back to school!!!
Lynda
----- Original Message -----
From: Castle Crawford <ec3forme@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 6:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] just thinking...
> >I was wondering if you get that back to school feeling still?<
>
>
> I know how you feel. School started here last Monday, and the Sunday
before that, Wal-Mart was JAMMED with stressed out moms and jittery kids.
>
> The kids were amazed that so many kids were buying paper! hehehe We
picked up the school list for the school they would be attending and read
over the supply list out of curiosity. This last week, we drove by on our
way to the Sam Davis Home to take pictures of the corn and there were kids
outside running around. I asked my oldest if he felt sad about not being
with them and he said, "No, I just feel sad that they have to go. Mom? Can
we go to the park and ride bikes and look for bugs?"
>
> I guess he has no feelings about it, since he has never gone, but I found
myself looking forward to the start of school. There are less kids out and
it seems the 'bullies' are ALL mysteriously gone! Now the kids can play on
the playground and use the pool in our community without a kid twice their
age and half their intellect bossing them around...
>
> It also seems that once school starts, we are able to get back on more of
a schedule. It seems everything child-related revolves around school hours
anyway.
>
> So, maybe I don't get the same ones you do-but I DO have some
back-to-school feelings.
>
> Esther
>
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Ann-
I'm new to this list, so I hope no one minds me chiming in. I wanted to say
that I totally agree with you. I feel the exact same way whenever I hear the
"I can't wait until they go back to school" bit. I even have gotten into a
tiff or two over it as I haven't quite learned how to bit down on my tongue.
I hear my closest friends say this and I try to lovingly help them realize
what it is that they are saying. The tiffs I've gotten into were online when
over and over people are saying it and finally I can't take hearing them all
say this about their own children. It's so frustrating and at times I have
literally bit my tongue to keep quiet. And to think I was once one of these
people. I'm glad my eyes are now opened to my children, IYKWIM.
Kimberly
Kimberly U
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I'm new to this list, so I hope no one minds me chiming in. I wanted to say
that I totally agree with you. I feel the exact same way whenever I hear the
"I can't wait until they go back to school" bit. I even have gotten into a
tiff or two over it as I haven't quite learned how to bit down on my tongue.
I hear my closest friends say this and I try to lovingly help them realize
what it is that they are saying. The tiffs I've gotten into were online when
over and over people are saying it and finally I can't take hearing them all
say this about their own children. It's so frustrating and at times I have
literally bit my tongue to keep quiet. And to think I was once one of these
people. I'm glad my eyes are now opened to my children, IYKWIM.
Kimberly
Kimberly U
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A
Kim, you must just love those nasty commercials you have been seeing...
You know the one where the Mom is tearfully leaving her kindergartner at school,
and as soon as she turns the cornier she starts jumping up and down. Oh boy do
I dislike those things... what is the matter with people that they think that
this is ok? What is this saying to their children?????? AHHHHHH!
:)
Ann
Homeschool4us123@... wrote:
You know the one where the Mom is tearfully leaving her kindergartner at school,
and as soon as she turns the cornier she starts jumping up and down. Oh boy do
I dislike those things... what is the matter with people that they think that
this is ok? What is this saying to their children?????? AHHHHHH!
:)
Ann
Homeschool4us123@... wrote:
> Ann-
>
> I'm new to this list, so I hope no one minds me chiming in. I wanted to say
> that I totally agree with you. I feel the exact same way whenever I hear the
> "I can't wait until they go back to school" bit. I even have gotten into a
> tiff or two over it as I haven't quite learned how to bit down on my tongue.
> I hear my closest friends say this and I try to lovingly help them realize
> what it is that they are saying. The tiffs I've gotten into were online when
> over and over people are saying it and finally I can't take hearing them all
> say this about their own children. It's so frustrating and at times I have
> literally bit my tongue to keep quiet. And to think I was once one of these
> people. I'm glad my eyes are now opened to my children, IYKWIM.
>
> Kimberly
>
> Kimberly U
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I'm appalled!!! I've never seen that commercial!!!!! Then again, we dont'
watch much beyond PBS around here. What does it tell our children? It tells
them we don't want them!!! That's horrible!!! Speaking of messages to our
children from TV have you noticed these saturday morning cartoons and
afterschool cartoons? They make parents out to be people to disobey, people
who dont' know anything, etc. What's that tell our children? That we DON'T
know what's best for them. Ugggg!!!!!!!!
Kimberly U
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watch much beyond PBS around here. What does it tell our children? It tells
them we don't want them!!! That's horrible!!! Speaking of messages to our
children from TV have you noticed these saturday morning cartoons and
afterschool cartoons? They make parents out to be people to disobey, people
who dont' know anything, etc. What's that tell our children? That we DON'T
know what's best for them. Ugggg!!!!!!!!
Kimberly U
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Tracy Oldfield
I'm appalled!!! I've never seen that commercial!!!!!
Then again, we dont'
watch much beyond PBS around here. What does it tell
our children? It tells
them we don't want them!!! That's horrible!!! Speaking
of messages to our
children from TV have you noticed these saturday
morning cartoons and
afterschool cartoons? They make parents out to be
people to disobey, people
who dont' know anything, etc. What's that tell our
children? That we DON'T
know what's best for them. Ugggg!!!!!!!!
Kimberly U
Hmm... I'd agree, then if that's what they say, we
don't always know what's best for our children, our
children do! What we can do better than any teacher is
listen to what they think is best and help them pursue
it.
Tracy
Then again, we dont'
watch much beyond PBS around here. What does it tell
our children? It tells
them we don't want them!!! That's horrible!!! Speaking
of messages to our
children from TV have you noticed these saturday
morning cartoons and
afterschool cartoons? They make parents out to be
people to disobey, people
who dont' know anything, etc. What's that tell our
children? That we DON'T
know what's best for them. Ugggg!!!!!!!!
Kimberly U
Hmm... I'd agree, then if that's what they say, we
don't always know what's best for our children, our
children do! What we can do better than any teacher is
listen to what they think is best and help them pursue
it.
Tracy
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Tracy- Very true!!! Parents do have many decisions they must make in the best
interest of their children, but children have the right to make decisions in
their own lives. As Parents we need to have our children look up to us and
respect us. To see us as examples for them, and to see us as people who love
them with our whole hearts. Not people who can't wait until they are gone,
are too dumb for our children to consider our suggestions, etc.
Kimberly U
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interest of their children, but children have the right to make decisions in
their own lives. As Parents we need to have our children look up to us and
respect us. To see us as examples for them, and to see us as people who love
them with our whole hearts. Not people who can't wait until they are gone,
are too dumb for our children to consider our suggestions, etc.
Kimberly U
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Janet
The commercials are awful!! Not only the ones about the parents that
are thrilled the kids are going back (ie the Staples commercial), but
even the clothing ads are bad. What about the JC Penney ad where a
pre-teen girl, dressed in junior slut clothes, asking her mom if she
can have a tattoo? Or the young teen boy wanting to shave his
eyebrows? The girl with half-pink hair? We have all the latest
styles so your kids will fit in.....
There was another commercial out earlier in the month (I haven't seen
it recently) with a teen explaining that it's not what you look like,
it's what's inside that counts. But she's going shopping to get all
of the latest, coolest stuff, "just in case". There was another one
with a teen girl trying on all of her newest clothes and admiring
herself, and her mom comes in and says, "you're not going to school
like that!" (the girl was wearing hip huggers), so the mom walks up
to her and pulls the pants down another inch!
My dh and I were just rolling our eyes.....
Janet, mom to Caroline, 6, and Thomas, almost 3!
are thrilled the kids are going back (ie the Staples commercial), but
even the clothing ads are bad. What about the JC Penney ad where a
pre-teen girl, dressed in junior slut clothes, asking her mom if she
can have a tattoo? Or the young teen boy wanting to shave his
eyebrows? The girl with half-pink hair? We have all the latest
styles so your kids will fit in.....
There was another commercial out earlier in the month (I haven't seen
it recently) with a teen explaining that it's not what you look like,
it's what's inside that counts. But she's going shopping to get all
of the latest, coolest stuff, "just in case". There was another one
with a teen girl trying on all of her newest clothes and admiring
herself, and her mom comes in and says, "you're not going to school
like that!" (the girl was wearing hip huggers), so the mom walks up
to her and pulls the pants down another inch!
My dh and I were just rolling our eyes.....
Janet, mom to Caroline, 6, and Thomas, almost 3!
A
I sure wish there was something to be done about all those types of things...
I mean we "are" the consumers!
Of course it seems like we are in the minority. Most people don't seem
bothered by this at all.
That scares me!
Ann
Janet wrote:
I mean we "are" the consumers!
Of course it seems like we are in the minority. Most people don't seem
bothered by this at all.
That scares me!
Ann
Janet wrote:
> The commercials are awful!! Not only the ones about the parents that
> are thrilled the kids are going back (ie the Staples commercial), but
> even the clothing ads are bad. What about the JC Penney ad where a
> pre-teen girl, dressed in junior slut clothes, asking her mom if she
> can have a tattoo? Or the young teen boy wanting to shave his
> eyebrows? The girl with half-pink hair? We have all the latest
> styles so your kids will fit in.....
>
> There was another commercial out earlier in the month (I haven't seen
> it recently) with a teen explaining that it's not what you look like,
> it's what's inside that counts. But she's going shopping to get all
> of the latest, coolest stuff, "just in case". There was another one
> with a teen girl trying on all of her newest clothes and admiring
> herself, and her mom comes in and says, "you're not going to school
> like that!" (the girl was wearing hip huggers), so the mom walks up
> to her and pulls the pants down another inch!
>
> My dh and I were just rolling our eyes.....
>
> Janet, mom to Caroline, 6, and Thomas, almost 3!
>
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Lynda
Last years was the commercial where they hauled the kids shopping and the
dad was estatic. The year before the mom was gleeful about school starting
and the kids were gleeful because all the stuff was left on the car roof and
was sailing away.
I don't remember what it is for but there is one where the mom is in tears
and the kid waltzes off unconcerned on the first day of school and talks to
another little kid and says something like "what's her problem" or something
like that or at least that is what I got from it.
Lynda
dad was estatic. The year before the mom was gleeful about school starting
and the kids were gleeful because all the stuff was left on the car roof and
was sailing away.
I don't remember what it is for but there is one where the mom is in tears
and the kid waltzes off unconcerned on the first day of school and talks to
another little kid and says something like "what's her problem" or something
like that or at least that is what I got from it.
Lynda
----- Original Message -----
From: A <mumsienc@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] just thinking...
> Kim, you must just love those nasty commercials you have been seeing...
> You know the one where the Mom is tearfully leaving her kindergartner at
school,
> and as soon as she turns the cornier she starts jumping up and down. Oh
boy do
> I dislike those things... what is the matter with people that they think
that
> this is ok? What is this saying to their children?????? AHHHHHH!
> :)
> Ann
>
> Homeschool4us123@... wrote:
>
> > Ann-
> >
> > I'm new to this list, so I hope no one minds me chiming in. I wanted to
say
> > that I totally agree with you. I feel the exact same way whenever I hear
the
> > "I can't wait until they go back to school" bit. I even have gotten into
a
> > tiff or two over it as I haven't quite learned how to bit down on my
tongue.
> > I hear my closest friends say this and I try to lovingly help them
realize
> > what it is that they are saying. The tiffs I've gotten into were online
when
> > over and over people are saying it and finally I can't take hearing them
all
> > say this about their own children. It's so frustrating and at times I
have
> > literally bit my tongue to keep quiet. And to think I was once one of
these
> > people. I'm glad my eyes are now opened to my children, IYKWIM.
> >
> > Kimberly
> >
> > Kimberly U
> >
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> >
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***I sure wish there was something to be done about all those types of
things...I mean we "are" the consumers!Of course it seems like we are in the
minority***
I think the word here is boycott. Where there is 1, there are many....
Mercy
-----Original Message-----
From: A <mumsienc@...>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Date: Thursday, August 23, 2001 6:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re: just thinking...
things...I mean we "are" the consumers!Of course it seems like we are in the
minority***
I think the word here is boycott. Where there is 1, there are many....
Mercy
-----Original Message-----
From: A <mumsienc@...>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Date: Thursday, August 23, 2001 6:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re: just thinking...
>I sure wish there was something to be done about all those types ofthings...
>I mean we "are" the consumers!
>Of course it seems like we are in the minority. Most people don't seem
>bothered by this at all.
>That scares me!
>Ann
>
>Janet wrote:
>
>> The commercials are awful!! Not only the ones about the parents that
>> are thrilled the kids are going back (ie the Staples commercial), but
>> even the clothing ads are bad. What about the JC Penney ad where a
>> pre-teen girl, dressed in junior slut clothes, asking her mom if she
>> can have a tattoo? Or the young teen boy wanting to shave his
>> eyebrows? The girl with half-pink hair? We have all the latest
>> styles so your kids will fit in.....
>>
>> There was another commercial out earlier in the month (I haven't seen
>> it recently) with a teen explaining that it's not what you look like,
>> it's what's inside that counts. But she's going shopping to get all
>> of the latest, coolest stuff, "just in case". There was another one
>> with a teen girl trying on all of her newest clothes and admiring
>> herself, and her mom comes in and says, "you're not going to school
>> like that!" (the girl was wearing hip huggers), so the mom walks up
>> to her and pulls the pants down another inch!
>>
>> My dh and I were just rolling our eyes.....
>>
>> Janet, mom to Caroline, 6, and Thomas, almost 3!
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-----Original Message-----
From: Janet [mailto:jefhdvm@...]
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 6:20 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re: just thinking...
The commercials are awful!! Not only the ones about the parents that
are thrilled the kids are going back (ie the Staples commercial), but
even the clothing ads are bad. What about the JC Penney ad where a
pre-teen girl, dressed in junior slut clothes, asking her mom if she
can have a tattoo? Or the young teen boy wanting to shave his
eyebrows? The girl with half-pink hair? We have all the latest
styles so your kids will fit in.....
There was another commercial out earlier in the month (I haven't seen
it recently) with a teen explaining that it's not what you look like,
it's what's inside that counts. But she's going shopping to get all
of the latest, coolest stuff, "just in case". There was another one
with a teen girl trying on all of her newest clothes and admiring
herself, and her mom comes in and says, "you're not going to school
like that!" (the girl was wearing hip huggers), so the mom walks up
to her and pulls the pants down another inch!
My dh and I were just rolling our eyes.....
Janet, mom to Caroline, 6, and Thomas, almost 3!
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-----Original Message-----
From: Janet [mailto:jefhdvm@...]
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 6:20 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re: just thinking...
The commercials are awful!! Not only the ones about the parents that
are thrilled the kids are going back (ie the Staples commercial), but
even the clothing ads are bad. What about the JC Penney ad where a
pre-teen girl, dressed in junior slut clothes, asking her mom if she
can have a tattoo? Or the young teen boy wanting to shave his
eyebrows? The girl with half-pink hair? We have all the latest
styles so your kids will fit in.....
There was another commercial out earlier in the month (I haven't seen
it recently) with a teen explaining that it's not what you look like,
it's what's inside that counts. But she's going shopping to get all
of the latest, coolest stuff, "just in case". There was another one
with a teen girl trying on all of her newest clothes and admiring
herself, and her mom comes in and says, "you're not going to school
like that!" (the girl was wearing hip huggers), so the mom walks up
to her and pulls the pants down another inch!
My dh and I were just rolling our eyes.....
Janet, mom to Caroline, 6, and Thomas, almost 3!
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What's worse is that I am in a club for stay-at-home moms, most of whom have toddlers. There are 4-5 in the group with school aged kids and they actually got together at one moms home the first day of school to celebrate the 'freedom'.
Esther
Esther
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From: Homeschool4us123@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] just thinking...
I'm appalled!!! I've never seen that commercial!!!!! Then again, we dont'
watch much beyond PBS around here. What does it tell our children? It tells
them we don't want them!!! That's horrible!!! Speaking of messages to our
children from TV have you noticed these saturday morning cartoons and
afterschool cartoons? They make parents out to be people to disobey, people
who dont' know anything, etc. What's that tell our children? That we DON'T
know what's best for them. Ugggg!!!!!!!!
Kimberly U
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<< ...They make parents out to be people to disobey, people
who dont' know anything, etc. What's that tell our children? That we DON'T
know what's best for them. >>
What it tells my kids (when they've seen such things and commented) is that
not all familes are as cool as ours, and it makes them feel great!!
Sandra
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who dont' know anything, etc. What's that tell our children? That we DON'T
know what's best for them. >>
What it tells my kids (when they've seen such things and commented) is that
not all familes are as cool as ours, and it makes them feel great!!
Sandra
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In a message dated 8/23/01 6:40:08 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
ec3forme@... writes:
thing? i mean i don't really know many moms right now with kids in school,
but after a few weeks don't they start to miss their kids?
i'm a single at home mom with very little resources for child care for
anything, and my son doesn't nap. when i get a few hours to myself anytime my
first reaction is to say yippee! i certainly wouldn't say that around my son,
it's an internal thing. but i'm always glad to pick him up again, i always
miss him. i don't feel guilty for being thrilled to have some 'me' time, but
mine is few and far between.
i agree that the ads are negative, esp for children who see them. but are
these parents really glad to ship their kids off for an entire school year or
does the thrill of freedom fade and it's just yucky hearing so much of it at
once?
brenda
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ec3forme@... writes:
> . There are 4-5 in the group with school aged kids and they actually gotjust a thought, devil's advocate i suppose, could this just be a temporary
> together at one moms home the first day of school to celebrate the
> 'freedom'.
thing? i mean i don't really know many moms right now with kids in school,
but after a few weeks don't they start to miss their kids?
i'm a single at home mom with very little resources for child care for
anything, and my son doesn't nap. when i get a few hours to myself anytime my
first reaction is to say yippee! i certainly wouldn't say that around my son,
it's an internal thing. but i'm always glad to pick him up again, i always
miss him. i don't feel guilty for being thrilled to have some 'me' time, but
mine is few and far between.
i agree that the ads are negative, esp for children who see them. but are
these parents really glad to ship their kids off for an entire school year or
does the thrill of freedom fade and it's just yucky hearing so much of it at
once?
brenda
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Johanna SanInocencio
Or the Staples "Most Wonderful Time of the Year.."
Why do people have children and then can't wait to get rid of them? My
oldest is seventeen and doesn't spend a lot of time at home anymore and i
miss her. I enjoy seeing her become a woman of God and growing up, but I
will not hurry her and view her leaving as a bittersweet thing, a
celebration of her adulthood, not my selfish desire to be rid of her.
Johanna
Life is the ultimate learning experience!
Why do people have children and then can't wait to get rid of them? My
oldest is seventeen and doesn't spend a lot of time at home anymore and i
miss her. I enjoy seeing her become a woman of God and growing up, but I
will not hurry her and view her leaving as a bittersweet thing, a
celebration of her adulthood, not my selfish desire to be rid of her.
Johanna
Life is the ultimate learning experience!
----- Original Message -----
From: "A" <mumsienc@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] just thinking...
> Kim, you must just love those nasty commercials you have been seeing...
> You know the one where the Mom is tearfully leaving her kindergartner at
school,
> and as soon as she turns the cornier she starts jumping up and down. Oh
boy do
> I dislike those things... what is the matter with people that they think
that
> this is ok? What is this saying to their children?????? AHHHHHH!
> :)
> Ann
>
> Homeschool4us123@... wrote:
>
> > Ann-
> >
> > I'm new to this list, so I hope no one minds me chiming in. I wanted to
say
> > that I totally agree with you. I feel the exact same way whenever I hear
the
> > "I can't wait until they go back to school" bit. I even have gotten into
a
> > tiff or two over it as I haven't quite learned how to bit down on my
tongue.
> > I hear my closest friends say this and I try to lovingly help them
realize
> > what it is that they are saying. The tiffs I've gotten into were online
when
> > over and over people are saying it and finally I can't take hearing them
all
> > say this about their own children. It's so frustrating and at times I
have
> > literally bit my tongue to keep quiet. And to think I was once one of
these
> > people. I'm glad my eyes are now opened to my children, IYKWIM.
> >
> > Kimberly
> >
> > Kimberly U
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Wasn't it JC Penney that had the Homeskool t shirt problem too? Maybe they
are starting to hear it.
Johanna
Life is the ultimate learning experience!
are starting to hear it.
Johanna
Life is the ultimate learning experience!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon and Rue Kream" <skreams@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 6:20 PM
Subject: RE: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re: just thinking...
> JC Penney has pulled the ad with the hip huggers. I guess complaining can
> make a difference :). ~Rue
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Janet [mailto:jefhdvm@...]
> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 6:20 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re: just thinking...
>
>
> The commercials are awful!! Not only the ones about the parents that
> are thrilled the kids are going back (ie the Staples commercial), but
> even the clothing ads are bad. What about the JC Penney ad where a
> pre-teen girl, dressed in junior slut clothes, asking her mom if she
> can have a tattoo? Or the young teen boy wanting to shave his
> eyebrows? The girl with half-pink hair? We have all the latest
> styles so your kids will fit in.....
>
> There was another commercial out earlier in the month (I haven't seen
> it recently) with a teen explaining that it's not what you look like,
> it's what's inside that counts. But she's going shopping to get all
> of the latest, coolest stuff, "just in case". There was another one
> with a teen girl trying on all of her newest clothes and admiring
> herself, and her mom comes in and says, "you're not going to school
> like that!" (the girl was wearing hip huggers), so the mom walks up
> to her and pulls the pants down another inch!
>
> My dh and I were just rolling our eyes.....
>
> Janet, mom to Caroline, 6, and Thomas, almost 3!
>
>
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" Back to School " can still turn my stomach into knots!
This spring a family moved in across the street. My son made friends
with their kids, one just older than him, one just younger and both in
public school. Another neighbor is a special ed aid at the school. She
made a point of telling me she had experience with the older boy and that
we should "be careful". She said he wasn't very smart, and she was sorry
to see " that kind of family " move in here.
Well, I just love these kids. But I was talking with the older boy ( ten
) and he's worried about going back to school. He hates it, he knows the
teachers think he's stupid . It breaks my heart to know he has to go.
What's going to happen to him?
I'm not at all happy school is starting again.
Deb
This spring a family moved in across the street. My son made friends
with their kids, one just older than him, one just younger and both in
public school. Another neighbor is a special ed aid at the school. She
made a point of telling me she had experience with the older boy and that
we should "be careful". She said he wasn't very smart, and she was sorry
to see " that kind of family " move in here.
Well, I just love these kids. But I was talking with the older boy ( ten
) and he's worried about going back to school. He hates it, he knows the
teachers think he's stupid . It breaks my heart to know he has to go.
What's going to happen to him?
I'm not at all happy school is starting again.
Deb
Castle Crawford
>just a thought, devil's advocate i suppose, could this just be a temporarything? <
I can see your point-my husband and I have been out one time in the past 2 years without the kids. I get out one night a month with 'the girls' and I am glad for the break! But these moms that I am talking about had their kids in "moms day out" programs 2-3 days a week since they were 2...
Esther
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I am now reading the book, Affluenza, which looks at over-consumption. I
found an interesting quote:
"He believes that while people are born with intrinsic curiosity,
self-motivation, and playfulness, too often these qualities are squelched
by 'deadlines, regulations, threats, directives, pressured evaluations
and imposed goals' that come from external sources of control rather than
self-motivated choices and goals." (page 110)
Unfortunately, he goes on to suggest that cold and controlling mothers
are the source of the problem. I thought he was describing school!
Mary Ellen
snip>>>>>>>>>But she's going shopping to get all
of the latest, coolest stuff, "just in case".
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found an interesting quote:
"He believes that while people are born with intrinsic curiosity,
self-motivation, and playfulness, too often these qualities are squelched
by 'deadlines, regulations, threats, directives, pressured evaluations
and imposed goals' that come from external sources of control rather than
self-motivated choices and goals." (page 110)
Unfortunately, he goes on to suggest that cold and controlling mothers
are the source of the problem. I thought he was describing school!
Mary Ellen
snip>>>>>>>>>But she's going shopping to get all
of the latest, coolest stuff, "just in case".
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mary krzyzanowski
I remember having nightmares a few days before school started. Forgetting
things, getting lost, completely missing classes for a whole semester. i
even had them in college and for a few months after graduating.
We're planning on a daytrip on the Friday the kids go back to ps. We also
love having places to ourselves.
my older dds found a website (kiddonet.com) where you can put facial
expressions and dialouge with comic characters. they both did one with a
girl on a scooter being yelled at by a bus driver to get on the bus, the
girl joyfully rode away yelling i'll never get on the bus I'm homeschooled!
Yeah!
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things, getting lost, completely missing classes for a whole semester. i
even had them in college and for a few months after graduating.
We're planning on a daytrip on the Friday the kids go back to ps. We also
love having places to ourselves.
my older dds found a website (kiddonet.com) where you can put facial
expressions and dialouge with comic characters. they both did one with a
girl on a scooter being yelled at by a bus driver to get on the bus, the
girl joyfully rode away yelling i'll never get on the bus I'm homeschooled!
Yeah!
Mary-NY
>From: Tanya Barrera <tanyab2@...>_________________________________________________________________
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] just thinking...
>Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 10:34:08 -0500
>
> The back to school feeling I first thought of was the scared queasy
>feeling I always got. I can still feel it when I observe most of the town
>getting ready for school. I am so glad my boys don't have to feel that
>helpless feel of no choice.
> Otherwise, I love it when school starts also.We took our vacation last
>year in September. I picked hotels that had indoor pools & we usually had
>the pool to ourselves.
> Our community pool closes when school starts!
>
>Tanya
>
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