Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Digest Number 1310
Teesa Monso
Dear Molly,
A debate will always have at least two sides. My personal advise is this. Use "I" statements when speaking to her. She can not debate you when you say, " I feel my children will greatly benefit from..." . Will she try to say you do not feel that way? No. (at least I would hope not) Next remember: Never raise your voice when you should reinforce your argument. That keeps a cool head and gives you the advantage. She will likely not see it coming...you have the advantage of role playing with your husband every conceivable thought she will have to change your mind...which has already been made up. Be VERY clear of the laws and follow them to the letter. Finally, if you feel the need to pull out the BIG guns and you feel really gutsie, encourage her to be supportive of your decision to catch the children up from being "behind" under her tutilage. Above all do not forget she is your mom. My mom didn't always agree with my decisions either(although she and Daddy were my backbone about the education of the girls-even before hubby), but now she is gone...and missed daily. Try not to say things you believe will alter your longterm familial relationship. I'm sorry you are feeling these stressful concerns. You never know, maybe it won't be as bad as you think. : )
Teresa in Louisiana
P.S. Crystal: I do not know how to do that thing about sending the e-mails without the stuff tagging along, but I will learn VERY soon. Forgive this time please. I am new with the computer but learning q day. : )
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There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. RE: writing and unschoolin
From: "April"
2. Re: writing and unschoolin
From: marbleface@...
3. Re: writing and unschoolin
From: A
4. Re: Digest Number 1309
From: RValvo7626@...
5. Re: Digest Number 1309
From: RValvo7626@...
6. Re: Digest Number 1309
From: A
7. Re: writing and unschooling
From: "Janet F Hamlin"
8. News/Yates Family
From: A
9. Re: Digest Number 1309
From: Teesa Monso
10. Re: writing and unschoolin
From: SandraDodd@...
11. writing and penmanship (the vast differences)
From: SandraDodd@...
12. Need to vent!
From: "Jeanmarie Shingleton"
13. New to list
From: "Bronwen"
14. Re: New to list
From: A
15. Re: New to list
From: "Tami Labig-Duquette"
16. Re: Need to vent!
From: "Tracy Oldfield"
17. Re: Need to vent!
From: LASaliger@...
18. (Fwd) [naturalweaners] Help Dr. McKenna
From: "Tracy Oldfield"
19. Relatives
From: elmamahnke@...
20. Re: Need to vent!
From: "Elizabeth Hill"
21. Re: writing and unschoolin
From: SandraDodd@...
22. Re: Need to vent!
From: "Lynda"
23. Re: New to list
From: discovery6@...
24. Re: writing
From: Tamara Rousso
25. Re: Relatives
From: A
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 07:21:13 -0400
From: "April"
Subject: RE: writing and unschoolin
I have a daughter who wasn't really writing at 9. At that time we were still
doing 'school at home' and I tried to 'make' her write. It didn't do much
good.(there's my regret, trying to force her to write) I finally left it
alone. Now, at almost 15 she writes a lot. Sometimes out of need, sometimes
for pleasure. She would rather type than write but she'll do either. Her
penmanship isn't great, but neither is mine or her Dad's so I'm not worried
about it. My 12 yr old wrote much earlier, and much prettier. My 10 yr old
who is just now reading can write beautifully, knows the basic rules (spaces
between words, periods, cap. letters) but only writes thank you notes and to
label his intricate drawings of inventions and such, nothing else. His time
will come. As long as they have the tools, when the need or desire to write
comes, they will put it all together amazingly fast and be just fine.
April
-----Original Message-----
From: Tamara Rousso [mailto:tammy@...]
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 12:14 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] writing and unschoolin
Hi,
I am new to this list and subscribed because I am
interested in the opinions of other unschooling moms
and how your children have learned writing skills. We
unschool in the sense of trusting that our children
will know when they are ready to take on tasks and
following their lead for what they want to learn and
how they want to learn it. My daughter is nine this
month and took off on reading about 6 months ago. She
spends a fair amount of time reading both fiction and
non-fiction, but also still loves to spend time with
her various critters and engage in make-believe play
with her sibling and other children. She loves to
draw, but she HATESs to write. If she wants to leave
herself a note, for example, to bring her tortoise in
for the night instead of writing out the words she
will draw a picture of the tortoise grazing and post
that where it reminds her. I have been fine with this
approach and have trusted that when she is at a point
in her life where she wants to truly express her
feelings she will feel compelled to write. I have
kind of expected this will happen in adolescence.
Recently an event happened that is causing me to
question my judgement. Has anyone else out there left
it up to divine providence that their children will
indeed want to, and then proceed to, learn to write
when they are ready? Has anyone any regrets about
not being more proactive with their child in teaching
writing? Thanks in advance for any input.
Tammy
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 08:04:23 EDT
From: marbleface@...
Subject: Re: writing and unschoolin
In a message dated 06/22/2001 4:19:14 AM !!!First Boot!!!, tammy@...
writes:
Has anyone any regrets about
when he is older.
Seriously, I think pressuring him to use a skill that is obviously painful
for him would do more harm than good.
Nance
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 08:40:59 -0400
From: A
Subject: Re: writing and unschoolin
Tami, you aren't rambling...made perfect sense... :)
But, go to sleep! ;)
A
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 09:22:00 EDT
From: RValvo7626@...
Subject: Re: Digest Number 1309
In a message dated 6/22/01 3:44:23 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:
<< If it feels
right now, there's no reason to believe it won't feel right when they turn
the magic kindergarten age :). Good luck! ~Rue
We unschool b/c this is what I had in mind when I was in highschool. I
knew then that it was a crock and I still do.Sorry I feel very strongly about
this.
My dd and I just do our thing everyday. There is no sit down and learn
time. Many times we learn while driving,walking,and whenever. It just seems
to happen. It is very spontaneous and we love it. It is 99% child led here.
She asks the questions I answer or look it up. I am finding out how much I do
not know. :o)
My dd learn to write one day from asking me to write letters on a box I
was addressing so she could copy them. It worked. The box luckily was going
to a relative,it was covered in letters. This was just an example to show you
it will happen.
NICKI~
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 09:29:00 EDT
From: RValvo7626@...
Subject: Re: Digest Number 1309
In a message dated 6/22/01 3:44:23 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:
<< Has anyone else been watching the news on the Yates family? >>
I just saw it yesterday morning as it broke I guess. I have been afraid to
turn the news on since. The 2 reports after that one were older and the
reporters were getting ridiculous.I can't watch them.
NICKI~
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 10:00:47 -0400
From: A
Subject: Re: Digest Number 1309
learned the whole sign language alphabet. We had bought a chart since they
wanted to learn sign language. So the oldest (8) held the chart and taught us
all. Now we know the whole thing, and got all our errands done!
things I never had any interest in before WITH my children. It is wonderful.
Ann
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 09:42:41 -0400
From: "Janet F Hamlin"
Subject: Re: writing and unschooling
My daughter is 6 and hates to write as well, though when she wants to she
will write herself notes (spelled phonetically). Her handwriting (printing,
actually) isn't that great and my mother keeps harping on me to "make" her
practice. Nope. I just figure if she wants to she will, or when she's older
she'll learn to type. If your daughter can write but chooses not to, that's
fine. As long as she can express herself on paper when she wants to. And
if she can't, she'll ask for help when she wants to.
Janet
A debate will always have at least two sides. My personal advise is this. Use "I" statements when speaking to her. She can not debate you when you say, " I feel my children will greatly benefit from..." . Will she try to say you do not feel that way? No. (at least I would hope not) Next remember: Never raise your voice when you should reinforce your argument. That keeps a cool head and gives you the advantage. She will likely not see it coming...you have the advantage of role playing with your husband every conceivable thought she will have to change your mind...which has already been made up. Be VERY clear of the laws and follow them to the letter. Finally, if you feel the need to pull out the BIG guns and you feel really gutsie, encourage her to be supportive of your decision to catch the children up from being "behind" under her tutilage. Above all do not forget she is your mom. My mom didn't always agree with my decisions either(although she and Daddy were my backbone about the education of the girls-even before hubby), but now she is gone...and missed daily. Try not to say things you believe will alter your longterm familial relationship. I'm sorry you are feeling these stressful concerns. You never know, maybe it won't be as bad as you think. : )
Teresa in Louisiana
P.S. Crystal: I do not know how to do that thing about sending the e-mails without the stuff tagging along, but I will learn VERY soon. Forgive this time please. I am new with the computer but learning q day. : )
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There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. RE: writing and unschoolin
From: "April"
2. Re: writing and unschoolin
From: marbleface@...
3. Re: writing and unschoolin
From: A
4. Re: Digest Number 1309
From: RValvo7626@...
5. Re: Digest Number 1309
From: RValvo7626@...
6. Re: Digest Number 1309
From: A
7. Re: writing and unschooling
From: "Janet F Hamlin"
8. News/Yates Family
From: A
9. Re: Digest Number 1309
From: Teesa Monso
10. Re: writing and unschoolin
From: SandraDodd@...
11. writing and penmanship (the vast differences)
From: SandraDodd@...
12. Need to vent!
From: "Jeanmarie Shingleton"
13. New to list
From: "Bronwen"
14. Re: New to list
From: A
15. Re: New to list
From: "Tami Labig-Duquette"
16. Re: Need to vent!
From: "Tracy Oldfield"
17. Re: Need to vent!
From: LASaliger@...
18. (Fwd) [naturalweaners] Help Dr. McKenna
From: "Tracy Oldfield"
19. Relatives
From: elmamahnke@...
20. Re: Need to vent!
From: "Elizabeth Hill"
21. Re: writing and unschoolin
From: SandraDodd@...
22. Re: Need to vent!
From: "Lynda"
23. Re: New to list
From: discovery6@...
24. Re: writing
From: Tamara Rousso
25. Re: Relatives
From: A
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 07:21:13 -0400
From: "April"
Subject: RE: writing and unschoolin
I have a daughter who wasn't really writing at 9. At that time we were still
doing 'school at home' and I tried to 'make' her write. It didn't do much
good.(there's my regret, trying to force her to write) I finally left it
alone. Now, at almost 15 she writes a lot. Sometimes out of need, sometimes
for pleasure. She would rather type than write but she'll do either. Her
penmanship isn't great, but neither is mine or her Dad's so I'm not worried
about it. My 12 yr old wrote much earlier, and much prettier. My 10 yr old
who is just now reading can write beautifully, knows the basic rules (spaces
between words, periods, cap. letters) but only writes thank you notes and to
label his intricate drawings of inventions and such, nothing else. His time
will come. As long as they have the tools, when the need or desire to write
comes, they will put it all together amazingly fast and be just fine.
April
-----Original Message-----
From: Tamara Rousso [mailto:tammy@...]
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 12:14 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] writing and unschoolin
Hi,
I am new to this list and subscribed because I am
interested in the opinions of other unschooling moms
and how your children have learned writing skills. We
unschool in the sense of trusting that our children
will know when they are ready to take on tasks and
following their lead for what they want to learn and
how they want to learn it. My daughter is nine this
month and took off on reading about 6 months ago. She
spends a fair amount of time reading both fiction and
non-fiction, but also still loves to spend time with
her various critters and engage in make-believe play
with her sibling and other children. She loves to
draw, but she HATESs to write. If she wants to leave
herself a note, for example, to bring her tortoise in
for the night instead of writing out the words she
will draw a picture of the tortoise grazing and post
that where it reminds her. I have been fine with this
approach and have trusted that when she is at a point
in her life where she wants to truly express her
feelings she will feel compelled to write. I have
kind of expected this will happen in adolescence.
Recently an event happened that is causing me to
question my judgement. Has anyone else out there left
it up to divine providence that their children will
indeed want to, and then proceed to, learn to write
when they are ready? Has anyone any regrets about
not being more proactive with their child in teaching
writing? Thanks in advance for any input.
Tammy
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 08:04:23 EDT
From: marbleface@...
Subject: Re: writing and unschoolin
In a message dated 06/22/2001 4:19:14 AM !!!First Boot!!!, tammy@...
writes:
> Has anyone else out there leftWell, something like that. :) I leave my son alone about it.
> it up to divine providence that their children will
> indeed want to, and then proceed to, learn to write
> when they are ready?
Has anyone any regrets about
> not being more proactive with their child in teachingNot yet! But he's only 8. I'll add that to my list of things to worry about
> writing? Thanks in advance for any input.
>
> Tammy
>
>
when he is older.
Seriously, I think pressuring him to use a skill that is obviously painful
for him would do more harm than good.
Nance
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 08:40:59 -0400
From: A
Subject: Re: writing and unschoolin
Tami, you aren't rambling...made perfect sense... :)
But, go to sleep! ;)
A
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 09:22:00 EDT
From: RValvo7626@...
Subject: Re: Digest Number 1309
In a message dated 6/22/01 3:44:23 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:
<< If it feels
right now, there's no reason to believe it won't feel right when they turn
the magic kindergarten age :). Good luck! ~Rue
>>Gave me a smile. I like this alot Rue.
We unschool b/c this is what I had in mind when I was in highschool. I
knew then that it was a crock and I still do.Sorry I feel very strongly about
this.
My dd and I just do our thing everyday. There is no sit down and learn
time. Many times we learn while driving,walking,and whenever. It just seems
to happen. It is very spontaneous and we love it. It is 99% child led here.
She asks the questions I answer or look it up. I am finding out how much I do
not know. :o)
My dd learn to write one day from asking me to write letters on a box I
was addressing so she could copy them. It worked. The box luckily was going
to a relative,it was covered in letters. This was just an example to show you
it will happen.
NICKI~
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
Message: 5
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 09:29:00 EDT
From: RValvo7626@...
Subject: Re: Digest Number 1309
In a message dated 6/22/01 3:44:23 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:
<< Has anyone else been watching the news on the Yates family? >>
I just saw it yesterday morning as it broke I guess. I have been afraid to
turn the news on since. The 2 reports after that one were older and the
reporters were getting ridiculous.I can't watch them.
NICKI~
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 10:00:47 -0400
From: A
Subject: Re: Digest Number 1309
>The other day on the way to science class and while doing errands, the kids and I
> we learn while driving,
learned the whole sign language alphabet. We had bought a chart since they
wanted to learn sign language. So the oldest (8) held the chart and taught us
all. Now we know the whole thing, and got all our errands done!
>ME TOO!! I don't worry about this at all...quite the contrary. I'm discovering
>
> She asks the questions I answer or look it up. I am finding out how much I do
> not know. :o)
things I never had any interest in before WITH my children. It is wonderful.
Ann
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 09:42:41 -0400
From: "Janet F Hamlin"
Subject: Re: writing and unschooling
My daughter is 6 and hates to write as well, though when she wants to she
will write herself notes (spelled phonetically). Her handwriting (printing,
actually) isn't that great and my mother keeps harping on me to "make" her
practice. Nope. I just figure if she wants to she will, or when she's older
she'll learn to type. If your daughter can write but chooses not to, that's
fine. As long as she can express herself on paper when she wants to. And
if she can't, she'll ask for help when she wants to.
Janet
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Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] Digest Number 1309
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>
> There are 13 messages in this issue.
>
> Topics in this digest:
>
> 1. RE: Just Curious
> From: "Jon and Rue Kream"
> 2. Re: Just Curious
> From: SandraDodd@...
> 3. Ebay
> From: A
> 4. Re: Ebay
> From: Molly Mahnke
> 5. RE: Ebay
> From: "Nicki Clark"
> 6. Re: Just Curious
> From: louisam1@...
> 7. Re: Just Curious
> From: A
> 8. Re: Encouragement please....
> From: diamondair@...
> 9. Reporter said, "If the children had been in school where they
belonged . . ."
> From: "Lynda"
> 10. writing and unschoolin
> From: Tamara Rousso
> 11. Re: Just Curious
> From: LASaliger@...
> 12. Re: writing and unschoolin
> From: kate mcdaniel
> 13. Re: writing and unschoolin
> From: "Tami Labig-Duquette"
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 07:47:24 -0400
> From: "Jon and Rue Kream"
> Subject: RE: Just Curious
>
> We unschool because we want to choose the lives we lead, instead of having
> them decided for us. We want our children to have the opportunity to do
the
> same. To badly paraphrase Thoreau, there are no philosophers anymore,
only
> philosophy teachers. I think that's true, and I'd rather be and raise a
> philosopher.
> Do your children currently go to pre-school? If not, and they're spending
> their days with you, you are already doing what we do here. If it feels
> right now, there's no reason to believe it won't feel right when they turn
> the magic kindergarten age :). Good luck! ~Rue
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hobosoul@... [mailto:hobosoul@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 2:52 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] Just Curious
>
>
> Unschoolers,
> My wife, Kim Jansen, and I recently moved to the woods were I work
> as a Challenge Course Manager. We live on site at an Environmental
> Education Center that serves about 20,000 people a year. We choose
> the green land for our three boys; Tristan (4 years old), Chase and
> Devon (2 year old twins). For the last two months we've been
> discussing the idea of home schooling and this is our first inquiries
> to people who are doing the do. Our question is this: Why did you
> choose to unschool?
> We've read information about benefits and other reasons to go this
> route but we're eager to hear from people involved right this moment.
> If you have any other advice or suggested reading please feel free to
> contact us. Please e-mail me directly. Be well,
>
> Vincent Perez
>
> P.S. We've been interested in the writings of Daniel Quinn and others
> like him. We're choosing a different way to live but aside from ideas
> and words we're very concerned about the practical application of
> these ideas.
>
>
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> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 08:09:57 EDT
> From: SandraDodd@...
> Subject: Re: Just Curious
>
>
> In a message dated 6/20/01 9:41:32 PM, hobosoul@... writes:
>
> << We're choosing a different way to live but aside from ideas
> and words we're very concerned about the practical application of
> these ideas. >>
>
> Ideas and words are all you get.
>
> If you saw statistics that wouldn't necessarily apply to your family. How
> many people live in the situation you do? The skills and interests you
and
> your wife have will interact with your children's temperaments and
interests
> in ways unique on the planet.
>
> We know lots about the problems of school. Of unschooling, you will get
> ideas and words.
>
> There are few endeavors which so many people have shared so freely. I
think
> the best resource (perhaps stating the obvious again, but it's not obvious
to
> everyone here) is to read the library and archives at www.unschooling.com,
at
> HEM's site, at NHEN's site. There is a wealth of current information
added
> to daily.
>
> Read John Holt if you haven't already. Teach Your Own is my
recommendation
> if you're only going to read one. Learning all the Time and Never Too
Late
> inspired me too.
>
> Sandra
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 08:32:26 -0400
> From: A
> Subject: Ebay
>
> Does anyone have any words of wisdom for me? I am thinking of buying my
> digital camera on ebay. I have never bought there before and truthfully
> the whole idea scares me a bit.
> Any help?
> Thanks :)
> Ann
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 06:58:31 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Molly Mahnke
> Subject: Re: Ebay
>
> Dear Ann,
> If you have ANY questions about it: condition, manufacturer's warranty,
etc. etc.,
> ask BEFORE you place a bid. If they don't answer you back, or don't give
an answer
> that satisfies you, don't bid. Wait. Another item just like it will come
along.
> If it turns out not to be what was advertised on the eBay site, try to
resolve any
> problems with the seller. If nothing gets settled to your satisfaction,
turn them
> in to abuse@....
>
> Having said all that, most people selling on eBay are wonderful people to
deal with.
> I have bought several items (too many items!) and have only had one bad
turn.
> But, ask questions first, bid second.
> Buttons
>
>
>
> --- A wrote:
> > Does anyone have any words of wisdom for me? I am thinking of buying my
> > digital camera on ebay. I have never bought there before and truthfully
> > the whole idea scares me a bit.
> > Any help?
> > Thanks :)
> > Ann
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 10:33:42 -0400
> From: "Nicki Clark"
> Subject: RE: Ebay
>
> We bought our digital camera on ebay (and my wedding dress and veil and
> tiara and all our kids' tuxes and my wedding stationary and and and...).
>
> My rule of thumb is to *only* buy from vendors who have sold a *ton* and
who
> have been selling for several months. Also, many times I will write
someone
> privately and make the sale that way. They often have more than one of the
> same product and will sometimes sell for cheaper because I save them the
> hassle of putting the item up for bid (and the cost, albeit minimal).
>
> So if you know exactly what product you are looking for, check out the
> person's selling history, other items up for bid, rating, etc. This tells
me
> a lot about what kind of seller the person is. And also keep in mind a
good
> ebayer will be as leery of you (first time buyer) as you are of them. They
> have a lot to lose too.
>
> I've never had a bad ebay experience. I did buy something once that wasn't
> exactly what I expected (a toy - the picture made it look *much* larger
than
> it was but clearly stated the size) but I am still extremely happy with it
> and that was *my* error.
>
> When we bought our digital camera, we also negotiated (behind the scenes,
> after we won the auction) for extras at a lower price. A bag, an extra
> battery, etc.
>
> Nicki
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:28:50 -0700
> From: louisam1@...
> Subject: Re: Just Curious
>
> <> discussing the idea of home schooling and this is our first inquiries
> to people who are doing the do. Our question is this: Why did you
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