RE: [Unschooling-dotcom] Unschooling-dotcom] Occupation
Jon and Rue Kream
It really bothers me, and I insist that they put mother in the occupation
field. I do this wherever I am asked what I do, including on my census.
Each year it comes back saying housewife, and I send it back with a long
note about the fact that I am a mother. Maybe someday they'll get it. ~Rue
-----Original Message-----
From: Annette Yunker [mailto:amyunker@...]
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 12:10 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] Unschooling-dotcom] Occupation
Just as traditional educators are caught up with the idea of grades, tests,
subjects, schedules, etc, I find that a similar attitude exists towards
adults with regard to jobs or working. I am always uncomfortable when I
have to go to our local hospital. The clerks enter the information onto a
computer form, so I don't have the opportunity to fill out the form myself.
After taking the name and address of the individual, they reach the part
about the work phone number. Of course, this isn't exactly how they ask it.
Because of the long wait and the tedium of the whole experience, I am always
caught off guard when suddenly the clerk says "Do you work?" when I say
"no" they type in "housewife". The first time this happened, I didn't know
what they were doing until I got the printout later. What bothers me about
this is that I am actually retired, so the info isn't accurate (they might
also be looking for a source of income or locator in the event of
non-payment, so knowing !
the retired persons status would be helpful to them). If my husband said he
didn't work, what would they do, write "househusband"? Undoubtedly, they do
not.
So, last week, I went to the Dr.'s office and when filling the form, I put
"Educational Consultant" for occupation. I figure my kids consult me quite
a bit throughout the day, and with that title, I could be expected to have a
work number at home and be self-employed. Also, many of my friends do seek
out my opinion on homeschooling matters. I'm not embarrassed to be at home
with my children, but I am offended at the treatment I receive. Should I
just get over it - does this bother anyone else? I feel I have just about
the greatest job on earth, and one of incredible importance and
responsibility.
Annette
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field. I do this wherever I am asked what I do, including on my census.
Each year it comes back saying housewife, and I send it back with a long
note about the fact that I am a mother. Maybe someday they'll get it. ~Rue
-----Original Message-----
From: Annette Yunker [mailto:amyunker@...]
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 12:10 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] Unschooling-dotcom] Occupation
Just as traditional educators are caught up with the idea of grades, tests,
subjects, schedules, etc, I find that a similar attitude exists towards
adults with regard to jobs or working. I am always uncomfortable when I
have to go to our local hospital. The clerks enter the information onto a
computer form, so I don't have the opportunity to fill out the form myself.
After taking the name and address of the individual, they reach the part
about the work phone number. Of course, this isn't exactly how they ask it.
Because of the long wait and the tedium of the whole experience, I am always
caught off guard when suddenly the clerk says "Do you work?" when I say
"no" they type in "housewife". The first time this happened, I didn't know
what they were doing until I got the printout later. What bothers me about
this is that I am actually retired, so the info isn't accurate (they might
also be looking for a source of income or locator in the event of
non-payment, so knowing !
the retired persons status would be helpful to them). If my husband said he
didn't work, what would they do, write "househusband"? Undoubtedly, they do
not.
So, last week, I went to the Dr.'s office and when filling the form, I put
"Educational Consultant" for occupation. I figure my kids consult me quite
a bit throughout the day, and with that title, I could be expected to have a
work number at home and be self-employed. Also, many of my friends do seek
out my opinion on homeschooling matters. I'm not embarrassed to be at home
with my children, but I am offended at the treatment I receive. Should I
just get over it - does this bother anyone else? I feel I have just about
the greatest job on earth, and one of incredible importance and
responsibility.
Annette
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Tammy Graves
I love the title (but some here I think really hate the titles & lables stuff).
So, last week, I went to the Dr.'s office and when filling the form, I put
"Educational Consultant" for occupation. I figure my kids consult me quite a
bit throughout the day, and with that title, I could be expected to have a work
number at home and be self-employed. Also, many of my friends do seek out my
opinion on homeschooling matters. I'm not embarrassed to be at home with my
children, but I am offended at the treatment I receive. Should I just get over
it - does this bother anyone else? I feel I have just about the greatest job on
earth, and one of incredible importance and responsibility.
Annette
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So, last week, I went to the Dr.'s office and when filling the form, I put
"Educational Consultant" for occupation. I figure my kids consult me quite a
bit throughout the day, and with that title, I could be expected to have a work
number at home and be self-employed. Also, many of my friends do seek out my
opinion on homeschooling matters. I'm not embarrassed to be at home with my
children, but I am offended at the treatment I receive. Should I just get over
it - does this bother anyone else? I feel I have just about the greatest job on
earth, and one of incredible importance and responsibility.
Annette
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Annette Yunker
Just as traditional educators are caught up with the idea of grades, tests, subjects, schedules, etc, I find that a similar attitude exists towards adults with regard to jobs or working. I am always uncomfortable when I have to go to our local hospital. The clerks enter the information onto a computer form, so I don't have the opportunity to fill out the form myself. After taking the name and address of the individual, they reach the part about the work phone number. Of course, this isn't exactly how they ask it. Because of the long wait and the tedium of the whole experience, I am always caught off guard when suddenly the clerk says "Do you work?" when I say "no" they type in "housewife". The first time this happened, I didn't know what they were doing until I got the printout later. What bothers me about this is that I am actually retired, so the info isn't accurate (they might also be looking for a source of income or locator in the event of non-payment, so knowing the retired persons status would be helpful to them). If my husband said he didn't work, what would they do, write "househusband"? Undoubtedly, they do not.
So, last week, I went to the Dr.'s office and when filling the form, I put "Educational Consultant" for occupation. I figure my kids consult me quite a bit throughout the day, and with that title, I could be expected to have a work number at home and be self-employed. Also, many of my friends do seek out my opinion on homeschooling matters. I'm not embarrassed to be at home with my children, but I am offended at the treatment I receive. Should I just get over it - does this bother anyone else? I feel I have just about the greatest job on earth, and one of incredible importance and responsibility.
Annette
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So, last week, I went to the Dr.'s office and when filling the form, I put "Educational Consultant" for occupation. I figure my kids consult me quite a bit throughout the day, and with that title, I could be expected to have a work number at home and be self-employed. Also, many of my friends do seek out my opinion on homeschooling matters. I'm not embarrassed to be at home with my children, but I am offended at the treatment I receive. Should I just get over it - does this bother anyone else? I feel I have just about the greatest job on earth, and one of incredible importance and responsibility.
Annette
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In a message dated 5/21/01 10:35:17 AM, skreams@... writes:
<< It really bothers me, and I insist that they put mother in the occupation
field. I do this wherever I am asked what I do, including on my census. >>
I use "mother-at-home."
I was never a "housewife" before I had children, and I doubt I'll be one when
my kids are up and older/gone.
Sandra
<< It really bothers me, and I insist that they put mother in the occupation
field. I do this wherever I am asked what I do, including on my census. >>
I use "mother-at-home."
I was never a "housewife" before I had children, and I doubt I'll be one when
my kids are up and older/gone.
Sandra
Sharon Rudd
--- Annette Yunker <amyunker@...> wrote:
We consult you, too! Perhaps are also a
Communications Enhancement Specialist (that is a blank
filler inner).
Sharon
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> occupation.
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Johanna
Anette,
As I read your post I was reminded of this story a friend shared with me months ago. Hope you like it.
I'm just a mother?
A few months ago, when I was leaving the library with the children, another mother that I knew well, rushed up to me. Emily was fuming with indignation.
"Do you know what you and I are?" she demanded. Before I could answer, and I didn't really have one handy, she blurted out the reason for her Question. It seemed she had just returned from renewing her drivers license at the County Clerk's office. Asked by the woman recorder to state her "occupation," Emily had hesitated, uncertain how to classify herself.
"What I mean is ," explained the recorder, "Do you have a job, or are you just a ....?"
"Of course I have a job," snapped Emily. "I'm a mother."
"We don't list mother as an occupation,'housewife' covers it," said the recorder emphatically.
I forgot all about her story until one day I found myself in the same situation, this time at our Town Hall. The clerk was obviously a career woman, poised, efficient, and possessed of a high-sounding title, like "Official Interrogator" or Town Registrar."
"And what is your occupation?" she probed.
What made me say it, I do not know. The words simply popped out.
"I'm a Research Associate in the field of Child Development and Human Relations."
The clerk paused, ball-point pen frozen in mid air, and looked up as though she had not heard right. I repeated the title slowly, emphasizing the most significant words. Then stared in wonder as my pompous pronouncement was written in bold, black ink on the official questionnaire.
"Might I ask," said the clerk with new interest, "just what you do in your field?"
Cooly, without any trace of fluster in my voice, I heard myself reply, "I have a continuing program of research (what mother doesn't) in the laboratory and the field (normally I would have said indoors and out). I'm working for my Masters (the whole darned family) and already have four credits (all daughters). Of course the job is one of the most demanding in the humanities (any mother care to disagree?) And I often work 14 hours a day (24 is more like it). But the job is more challenging than most run-of-the-mill careers and the rewards are in satisfaction rather than just money."
There was an increasing note of respect in the clerk's voice as she completed the form, stood up and personally ushered me to the door.
As I drove into our driveway buoyed up by my glamorous new career, I was greeted by my lab assistants- ages 13, 7 and 3. And upstairs I could hear our new experimental model(six months) in the child development program testing out a new vocal pattern.
I felt triumphant. I had scored a beat on bureaucracy. And I had gone down on the official records as someone more distinguished and indispensable to mankind than "just another mother..."
Homemaker... what a glorious career. Especially when there is a title on the door
Send this to another Mother.
Johanna
Life is the ultimate learning experience!
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As I read your post I was reminded of this story a friend shared with me months ago. Hope you like it.
I'm just a mother?
A few months ago, when I was leaving the library with the children, another mother that I knew well, rushed up to me. Emily was fuming with indignation.
"Do you know what you and I are?" she demanded. Before I could answer, and I didn't really have one handy, she blurted out the reason for her Question. It seemed she had just returned from renewing her drivers license at the County Clerk's office. Asked by the woman recorder to state her "occupation," Emily had hesitated, uncertain how to classify herself.
"What I mean is ," explained the recorder, "Do you have a job, or are you just a ....?"
"Of course I have a job," snapped Emily. "I'm a mother."
"We don't list mother as an occupation,'housewife' covers it," said the recorder emphatically.
I forgot all about her story until one day I found myself in the same situation, this time at our Town Hall. The clerk was obviously a career woman, poised, efficient, and possessed of a high-sounding title, like "Official Interrogator" or Town Registrar."
"And what is your occupation?" she probed.
What made me say it, I do not know. The words simply popped out.
"I'm a Research Associate in the field of Child Development and Human Relations."
The clerk paused, ball-point pen frozen in mid air, and looked up as though she had not heard right. I repeated the title slowly, emphasizing the most significant words. Then stared in wonder as my pompous pronouncement was written in bold, black ink on the official questionnaire.
"Might I ask," said the clerk with new interest, "just what you do in your field?"
Cooly, without any trace of fluster in my voice, I heard myself reply, "I have a continuing program of research (what mother doesn't) in the laboratory and the field (normally I would have said indoors and out). I'm working for my Masters (the whole darned family) and already have four credits (all daughters). Of course the job is one of the most demanding in the humanities (any mother care to disagree?) And I often work 14 hours a day (24 is more like it). But the job is more challenging than most run-of-the-mill careers and the rewards are in satisfaction rather than just money."
There was an increasing note of respect in the clerk's voice as she completed the form, stood up and personally ushered me to the door.
As I drove into our driveway buoyed up by my glamorous new career, I was greeted by my lab assistants- ages 13, 7 and 3. And upstairs I could hear our new experimental model(six months) in the child development program testing out a new vocal pattern.
I felt triumphant. I had scored a beat on bureaucracy. And I had gone down on the official records as someone more distinguished and indispensable to mankind than "just another mother..."
Homemaker... what a glorious career. Especially when there is a title on the door
Send this to another Mother.
Johanna
Life is the ultimate learning experience!
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