Re: Unjobbing and supportive spouses
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--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., "DiamondAir" <diamondair@e...> wrote:
My dh was a little skepical at first. Was always asking if we had
done school work today...... I asked him if he remembered anything
that he had learned at school. He had to think about that - and then
i asked him how much of what he had learned at school he needed for
the job he now does. he had to think about that too!
Now dh is all for unschooling, especially as dd can now go to work
with him whenever she wants too - which is more and more these days -
he loves her company and the way she makes him laugh...
marianne
> From: "Annette Yunker" <amyunker@e...>how many
> >I wonder if it is common for one spouse to be skeptical - I wonder
> >of you are blessed with a spouse who shares your unschoolingvision>
My dh was a little skepical at first. Was always asking if we had
done school work today...... I asked him if he remembered anything
that he had learned at school. He had to think about that - and then
i asked him how much of what he had learned at school he needed for
the job he now does. he had to think about that too!
Now dh is all for unschooling, especially as dd can now go to work
with him whenever she wants too - which is more and more these days -
he loves her company and the way she makes him laugh...
marianne
DiamondAir
From: "Annette Yunker" <amyunker@...>
it from two completely different paths. I was a straight-A student who was
bored to tears in school. I was a rebel with a pink mohawk who was pissed
off at the cage I was in, but was able (by virtue of good memorization
skills) to spew the necessary answers to any test I had to take. I left high
school early without a diploma and got into college on the strength of my
SATs. Graduated Magna Cum Laude and Phi Beta Kappa and all that happy hoo-ha
:-). Got a job (at Microsoft) in a field totally unrelated to my degree
(which was Art). Did not follow my passion (photography), though it has
always been a hobby I've pursued.
OTOH, my husband was a high school "failure" who dropped out and then went
back and took his GED. He was "hyperactive" and a "daydreamer" (and probably
would've been on Ritalin these days). But when he really wanted to study
something, he was brilliant (he got his pilot's license as a teenager with
no problem, and I can tell you that the written exam for that is a lot
tougher than anything you'd see in a high school class). He went into the
Army for 10 years, then got his Associate's degree in aircraft maintenance
when he got out. Started his own aviation-related business in the evenings
while I worked the day shift. Now his business is thriving, and he's
branched out into all sorts of other things that he's never done before
(right now he's being a contractor on his 2nd hangar-building project) and
I'm a SAHM. So I guess you could say he's "unjobbing" as he loves owning his
own business and deciding what kind of work he wants to do. Along the way,
he's learned everything he needed to know that he didn't learn in school.
One night, for instance, we went over fractions together because he hadn't
retained that from school. Which just shows you that when you really need
and want to learn something, it's usually a snap to pick it up. He can do
fractions in his head now much faster than I can, because he uses them a lot
on a daily basis. Yet the math score on my SAT test was probably double of
his. So what does a test tell you about anything?? diddly squat.
From these two disparate experiences, we have both come to the conclusion
that our schooling did not serve us well, did not teach us the lessons we
truly needed to know, and was a monumental waste of time and energy, not to
mention emotionally and mentally crippling. We both feel fortunate that we
were able to break the chains on our imaginations and let our lives carry us
to where we wanted to be. We feel that it is the birthright of our children
not to have to go through that humiliating and debilitating experience that
is commonly called "public education". We love to travel and plan to spend a
lot of our kids' unschooling years in different locales, flying our airplane
around, or in different countries. For us, the road to unschooling started
with questioning the commonly accepted notions of hospital birth, and the
decision to birth with a midwife outside of a hospital led us to attachment
parenting, extended nursing, and to a host of alternative child-rearing
practices, culminating in the vision of a life in which learning is an
integral part and not a drudgery imposed from without. I will forever feel
grateful that we came to this path before our first child was even born.
Blue Skies!
-Robin-
Mom to Mackenzie (8/28/96) inventer of new and wonderful things
and Asa (10/5/99) singer of protest songs
http://www.geocities.com/the_clevengers Flying Clevenger Family
>I wonder if it is common for one spouse to be skeptical - I wonder how manyMy husband and I are definitely in agreement on unschooling, but we come to
>of you are blessed with a spouse who shares your unschooling vision? I
>believe in my heart that it is possible for both parents with differein
>visions to peacefully co-exist as long as mutual respect for the differing
>beliefs and styles exist. I would be interested in hearing from both
>experiences and neophytes in this regard
it from two completely different paths. I was a straight-A student who was
bored to tears in school. I was a rebel with a pink mohawk who was pissed
off at the cage I was in, but was able (by virtue of good memorization
skills) to spew the necessary answers to any test I had to take. I left high
school early without a diploma and got into college on the strength of my
SATs. Graduated Magna Cum Laude and Phi Beta Kappa and all that happy hoo-ha
:-). Got a job (at Microsoft) in a field totally unrelated to my degree
(which was Art). Did not follow my passion (photography), though it has
always been a hobby I've pursued.
OTOH, my husband was a high school "failure" who dropped out and then went
back and took his GED. He was "hyperactive" and a "daydreamer" (and probably
would've been on Ritalin these days). But when he really wanted to study
something, he was brilliant (he got his pilot's license as a teenager with
no problem, and I can tell you that the written exam for that is a lot
tougher than anything you'd see in a high school class). He went into the
Army for 10 years, then got his Associate's degree in aircraft maintenance
when he got out. Started his own aviation-related business in the evenings
while I worked the day shift. Now his business is thriving, and he's
branched out into all sorts of other things that he's never done before
(right now he's being a contractor on his 2nd hangar-building project) and
I'm a SAHM. So I guess you could say he's "unjobbing" as he loves owning his
own business and deciding what kind of work he wants to do. Along the way,
he's learned everything he needed to know that he didn't learn in school.
One night, for instance, we went over fractions together because he hadn't
retained that from school. Which just shows you that when you really need
and want to learn something, it's usually a snap to pick it up. He can do
fractions in his head now much faster than I can, because he uses them a lot
on a daily basis. Yet the math score on my SAT test was probably double of
his. So what does a test tell you about anything?? diddly squat.
From these two disparate experiences, we have both come to the conclusion
that our schooling did not serve us well, did not teach us the lessons we
truly needed to know, and was a monumental waste of time and energy, not to
mention emotionally and mentally crippling. We both feel fortunate that we
were able to break the chains on our imaginations and let our lives carry us
to where we wanted to be. We feel that it is the birthright of our children
not to have to go through that humiliating and debilitating experience that
is commonly called "public education". We love to travel and plan to spend a
lot of our kids' unschooling years in different locales, flying our airplane
around, or in different countries. For us, the road to unschooling started
with questioning the commonly accepted notions of hospital birth, and the
decision to birth with a midwife outside of a hospital led us to attachment
parenting, extended nursing, and to a host of alternative child-rearing
practices, culminating in the vision of a life in which learning is an
integral part and not a drudgery imposed from without. I will forever feel
grateful that we came to this path before our first child was even born.
Blue Skies!
-Robin-
Mom to Mackenzie (8/28/96) inventer of new and wonderful things
and Asa (10/5/99) singer of protest songs
http://www.geocities.com/the_clevengers Flying Clevenger Family
[email protected]
Started his own aviation-related business in the evenings
does not have a license though) I love hearing about stories like
yours.
> while I worked the day shift. Now his business is thriving, andhe's
> branched out into all sorts of other things that he's never donebefore
> (right now he's being a contractor on his 2nd hangar-buildingproject)
> > he's learned everything he needed to know that he didn't learn inschool.
> > > Blue Skies!Robin - where are you located? My husband absolutely loves flying (he
> -Robin-
> Mom to Mackenzie (8/28/96) inventer of new and wonderful things
> and Asa (10/5/99) singer of protest songs
> http://www.geocities.com/the_clevengers Flying Clevenger Family
does not have a license though) I love hearing about stories like
yours.
Johanna
Wow, Robin it sound like our lives and our husband's lives took a very similar path. I was a bright student, bored to tears. I did excellent in the classes I liked and was interested in and couldn't be bothered in the ones I found boring. I also went to college for art, but dropped out because I couldn't stomach the "Starving Artist" mentality on our campus. My husband was a high school dropout who got his GED and would have been considered hyperactive etc. also. He was sent to a "troubled boy" school during his jr high years. He often astounds me with insight to the business world that he learned on the streets as a teenager and he has an uncanny knack for spotting phony people.
Johanna
Life is the ultimate learning experience!
Johanna
Life is the ultimate learning experience!
----- Original Message -----
From: DiamondAir
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 12:59 AM
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] Unjobbing and supportive spouses
From: "Annette Yunker" <amyunker@...>
>I wonder if it is common for one spouse to be skeptical - I wonder how many
>of you are blessed with a spouse who shares your unschooling vision? I
>believe in my heart that it is possible for both parents with differein
>visions to peacefully co-exist as long as mutual respect for the differing
>beliefs and styles exist. I would be interested in hearing from both
>experiences and neophytes in this regard
My husband and I are definitely in agreement on unschooling, but we come to
it from two completely different paths. I was a straight-A student who was
bored to tears in school. I was a rebel with a pink mohawk who was pissed
off at the cage I was in, but was able (by virtue of good memorization
skills) to spew the necessary answers to any test I had to take. I left high
school early without a diploma and got into college on the strength of my
SATs. Graduated Magna Cum Laude and Phi Beta Kappa and all that happy hoo-ha
:-). Got a job (at Microsoft) in a field totally unrelated to my degree
(which was Art). Did not follow my passion (photography), though it has
always been a hobby I've pursued.
OTOH, my husband was a high school "failure" who dropped out and then went
back and took his GED. He was "hyperactive" and a "daydreamer" (and probably
would've been on Ritalin these days). But when he really wanted to study
something, he was brilliant (he got his pilot's license as a teenager with
no problem, and I can tell you that the written exam for that is a lot
tougher than anything you'd see in a high school class). He went into the
Army for 10 years, then got his Associate's degree in aircraft maintenance
when he got out. Started his own aviation-related business in the evenings
while I worked the day shift. Now his business is thriving, and he's
branched out into all sorts of other things that he's never done before
(right now he's being a contractor on his 2nd hangar-building project) and
I'm a SAHM. So I guess you could say he's "unjobbing" as he loves owning his
own business and deciding what kind of work he wants to do. Along the way,
he's learned everything he needed to know that he didn't learn in school.
One night, for instance, we went over fractions together because he hadn't
retained that from school. Which just shows you that when you really need
and want to learn something, it's usually a snap to pick it up. He can do
fractions in his head now much faster than I can, because he uses them a lot
on a daily basis. Yet the math score on my SAT test was probably double of
his. So what does a test tell you about anything?? diddly squat.
From these two disparate experiences, we have both come to the conclusion
that our schooling did not serve us well, did not teach us the lessons we
truly needed to know, and was a monumental waste of time and energy, not to
mention emotionally and mentally crippling. We both feel fortunate that we
were able to break the chains on our imaginations and let our lives carry us
to where we wanted to be. We feel that it is the birthright of our children
not to have to go through that humiliating and debilitating experience that
is commonly called "public education". We love to travel and plan to spend a
lot of our kids' unschooling years in different locales, flying our airplane
around, or in different countries. For us, the road to unschooling started
with questioning the commonly accepted notions of hospital birth, and the
decision to birth with a midwife outside of a hospital led us to attachment
parenting, extended nursing, and to a host of alternative child-rearing
practices, culminating in the vision of a life in which learning is an
integral part and not a drudgery imposed from without. I will forever feel
grateful that we came to this path before our first child was even born.
Blue Skies!
-Robin-
Mom to Mackenzie (8/28/96) inventer of new and wonderful things
and Asa (10/5/99) singer of protest songs
http://www.geocities.com/the_clevengers Flying Clevenger Family
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> From: tgraves@...We live in the middle of Oregon and we're both pilots, skydivers, and love
> Robin - where are you located? My husband absolutely loves flying (he
> does not have a license though) I love hearing about stories like
> yours.
to fly and be up in the air! I'd urge your husband to pursue it if it is a
passion of his. Even just hanging out at airports and talking to people can
often give you an opportunity to be in a plane. Both my husband and I take
up flight students, friends, or other people who want to go along when we're
up flying. I grew up around the airport and the smell of old airplane oil
reminds me of happy times spent with my dad....
Depending on where you live, hanggliding or paragliding are also more
affordable options to get up in the air and fly. A lot less equipment,
training, time, and expense before you're up there in the blue skies :-)
Blue Skies!
-Robin-
Mom to Mackenzie (8/28/96) inventor of new and wonderful things
and Asa (10/5/99) singer of protest songs
http://www.geocities.com/the_clevengers Flying Clevenger Family
Vaughnde Edwards
middle of oregon where? I'm heading to Roseburg in June to visit with my folks.
Vaughnde Edwards
Missoula, Montana
Praise the Lord, He is Risen Indeed!!
-----Original Message-----
From: DiamondAir <diamondair@...>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Date: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 9:23 AM
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re: Unjobbing and supportive spouses
to fly and be up in the air! I'd urge your husband to pursue it if it is a
passion of his. Even just hanging out at airports and talking to people can
often give you an opportunity to be in a plane. Both my husband and I take
up flight students, friends, or other people who want to go along when we're
up flying. I grew up around the airport and the smell of old airplane oil
reminds me of happy times spent with my dad....
Depending on where you live, hanggliding or paragliding are also more
affordable options to get up in the air and fly. A lot less equipment,
training, time, and expense before you're up there in the blue skies :-)
Blue Skies!
-Robin-
Mom to Mackenzie (8/28/96) inventor of new and wonderful things
and Asa (10/5/99) singer of protest songs
http://www.geocities.com/the_clevengers Flying Clevenger Family
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-----Original Message-----
From: DiamondAir <diamondair@...>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Date: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 9:23 AM
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re: Unjobbing and supportive spouses
> From: tgraves@...We live in the middle of Oregon and we're both pilots, skydivers, and love
> Robin - where are you located? My husband absolutely loves flying (he
> does not have a license though) I love hearing about stories like
> yours.
to fly and be up in the air! I'd urge your husband to pursue it if it is a
passion of his. Even just hanging out at airports and talking to people can
often give you an opportunity to be in a plane. Both my husband and I take
up flight students, friends, or other people who want to go along when we're
up flying. I grew up around the airport and the smell of old airplane oil
reminds me of happy times spent with my dad....
Depending on where you live, hanggliding or paragliding are also more
affordable options to get up in the air and fly. A lot less equipment,
training, time, and expense before you're up there in the blue skies :-)
Blue Skies!
-Robin-
Mom to Mackenzie (8/28/96) inventor of new and wonderful things
and Asa (10/5/99) singer of protest songs
http://www.geocities.com/the_clevengers Flying Clevenger Family
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