[email protected]

In a message dated 4/19/01 11:18:42 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:

<< I know what you mean but I think the problem lies in defining ANYONE by
how they earn their money. It's one aspect of their lives but it doesn't
have much to do with whether we'll have something important in common with
the person (usually) and I wish we would get away from that being the most
common first question when people meet (so what do you do...translation, how
do you earn your money?)
>>

Also I have found that SAHMs aren't really respected just thought of as
lucky. I don't bring home the bacon so I don't really *DO anything. I have
had quite a few questions about what do you do all day. I actually have very
little "time" on my hands. Now my dd is telling people she is homeschooled
b/c they ask her what grade she is in. Then I get the "that's great, I could
never do that." I just nod and smile. not worth expanding the conversation in
my opinion. I have learned to keep my opinions mostly to myself and my family
here b/c I don't have the energy to get into it.

Can you tell I nearly had a talk w/ the dental hygienist yesterday, very
fresh in my nerve fibers. It was about sending dd (not yet 5) to a specialist
in the near future for dental work and such. Then I received a propaganda
sheet from Crest. Enough! At least they didn't hound me about the NO FLUORIDE
emblazoned on her record sheet.

OK sorry I guess I did need to get into it. :o)

NICKI~

[email protected]

In a message dated 4/19/01 11:18:42 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:

<< Pont open anything with attachments I think I got a virus. everything i
get in as mail cone thriugh my outbox, an attachment is andded and the int
come in my inbox like I sent it DO NOT OPEN ANY ATTACHEMENTS
Johanna
Life is the ultimate learning experience!
>>

I deleted 3 e mails from this list today that had attachments. Mostly b/c
it takes too long and then I lose it somewhere in here and have trouble
finding it. I just can't be bothered. Did I actually miss anything? I often
wonder.

NICKI~

[email protected]

In a message dated 4/19/01 11:18:42 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:

<< There's no special hygiene--showers or baths. She doesn't need anything
up
inside, unless she's using tampons. But douche and like that? No. It's
not
good. >>

Just wanted to add in that I wish when I was younger I had discovered
other forms of feminine products. Tampons are so bad for our bodies and pads
too b/c they are bleached to become white products and other reasons. Never
douche unless medically needed. I have a few sites I can send you if you'd
like more info. I just now find it very important for other women to know
these facts. off my box now. :o)

NICKI~

Juli

> Also I have found that SAHMs aren't really
> respected just thought of as
> lucky.

Right, like we conned oil sheiks into supporting us in
style. When all we really did is decide to live more
frugally so we can be with our kids!

>I don't bring home the bacon so I don't
> really *DO anything.

Yeah, I love the, "Don't you get bored?" Are you
calling my kids boring? ;)

>I have
> had quite a few questions about what do you do all
> day.

Yeah, just because we have the intelligence to figure
out how to run our lives when we don't have a boss
telling us how to do it, right?

>Then I get
> the "that's great, I could
> never do that."

Right, and that can mean either they don't think they
could handle it or they couldn't live without the
two-income lifestyle. What they mean is they don't
WANT to, but they can't just say that, they have to
act like they have no choice.

Though the exception, for me, was this woman I talked
to the other day. I saw her at the library with two
boys, who turned out to be 5 and 7. I thought it was
earlier than it was, school hours, so I asked her if
she homeschooled. She got really sad and talked to me
for a long time about how much she WANTS to
homeschool, how she feels SURE it's better for the
kids, but she's single now, and she's going to college
PLUS working at night. She says she knows she could
work at night and homeschool during the day, but she
feels that getting herself a better education and job
will be better for them in the long run than if she
homeschools them while working at her minimum wage
job. I felt really bad, because I hadn't meant to make
her feel guilty. I mean, she wasn't making excuses, I
could tell she'd thought about it and just made this
decision instead, and I respect that. She says she
hope to marry again someday, and then maybe she'd
homeschool. I told her that's just what happened with
me, that my kids went to a couple years of PS when I
was divorced, but then I married my dh and we decided
to homeschool. She looked happy, like she was relieved
she wasn't being too greedy to hope for a dh who would
be willing to earn the money so his wife could
homeschool his stepkids. And his kids, if that
happened.

What do you guys say when someone wants badly to
homeschool, but it really does seem to you like they
can't because of their life situation?

Juli

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Vaughnde Edwards

commiserate with them the best you can, offer to be a friend on her days off when she can find free time to come over and let her boys play with yours...you could offer to homeschool her boys during their after school hours or such if she wants. In washington, there was this group of families that traded off homeschooling where one family would teach several subjects and the others would do different subjects. Maybe she would be interested in something like that.
 
Vaughnde Lee
Missoula, Montana
http://www.stampinbookworm.eboard.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Juli <yuliwomie@...>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Date: Thursday, April 19, 2001 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Digest Number 1142

>      Also I have found that SAHMs aren't really
> respected just thought of as
> lucky.

Right, like we conned oil sheiks into supporting us in
style. When all we really did is decide to live more
frugally so we can be with our kids!

>I don't bring home the bacon so I don't
> really *DO anything.

Yeah, I love the, "Don't you get bored?" Are you
calling my kids boring? ;)

>I have
> had quite a few questions about what do you do all
> day.

Yeah, just because we have the intelligence to figure
out how to run our lives when we don't have a boss
telling us how to do it, right?

>Then I get
> the "that's great, I could
> never do that."

Right, and that can mean either they don't think they
could handle it or they couldn't live without the
two-income lifestyle. What they mean is they don't
WANT to, but they can't just say that, they have to
act like they have no choice.

Though the exception, for me, was this woman I talked
to the other day. I saw her at the library with two
boys, who turned out to be 5 and 7. I thought it was
earlier than it was, school hours, so I asked her if
she homeschooled. She got really sad and talked to me
for a long time about how much she WANTS to
homeschool, how she feels SURE it's better for the
kids, but she's single now, and she's going to college
PLUS working at night. She says she knows she could
work at night and homeschool during the day, but she
feels that getting herself a better education and job
will be better for them in the long run than if she
homeschools them while working at her minimum wage
job. I felt really bad, because I hadn't meant to make
her feel guilty. I mean, she wasn't making excuses, I
could tell she'd thought about it and just made this
decision instead, and I respect that. She says she
hope to marry again someday, and then maybe she'd
homeschool. I told her that's just what happened with
me, that my kids went to a couple years of PS when I
was divorced, but then I married my dh and we decided
to homeschool. She looked happy, like she was relieved
she wasn't being too greedy to hope for a dh who would
be willing to earn the money so his wife could
homeschool his stepkids. And his kids, if that
happened.

What do you guys say when someone wants badly to
homeschool, but it really does seem to you like they
can't because of their life situation?

Juli

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I have a friend who is a single mom and homeschools. Her children ar a bit older though. The youngest is 13 and the oldest is 17 and just graduated. Hard but not impossible.
Johanna
Life is the ultimate learning experience!
----- Original Message -----
From: Juli
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Digest Number 1142

>      Also I have found that SAHMs aren't really
> respected just thought of as
> lucky.

Right, like we conned oil sheiks into supporting us in
style. When all we really did is decide to live more
frugally so we can be with our kids!

>I don't bring home the bacon so I don't
> really *DO anything.

Yeah, I love the, "Don't you get bored?" Are you
calling my kids boring? ;)

>I have
> had quite a few questions about what do you do all
> day.

Yeah, just because we have the intelligence to figure
out how to run our lives when we don't have a boss
telling us how to do it, right?

>Then I get
> the "that's great, I could
> never do that."

Right, and that can mean either they don't think they
could handle it or they couldn't live without the
two-income lifestyle. What they mean is they don't
WANT to, but they can't just say that, they have to
act like they have no choice.

Though the exception, for me, was this woman I talked
to the other day. I saw her at the library with two
boys, who turned out to be 5 and 7. I thought it was
earlier than it was, school hours, so I asked her if
she homeschooled. She got really sad and talked to me
for a long time about how much she WANTS to
homeschool, how she feels SURE it's better for the
kids, but she's single now, and she's going to college
PLUS working at night. She says she knows she could
work at night and homeschool during the day, but she
feels that getting herself a better education and job
will be better for them in the long run than if she
homeschools them while working at her minimum wage
job. I felt really bad, because I hadn't meant to make
her feel guilty. I mean, she wasn't making excuses, I
could tell she'd thought about it and just made this
decision instead, and I respect that. She says she
hope to marry again someday, and then maybe she'd
homeschool. I told her that's just what happened with
me, that my kids went to a couple years of PS when I
was divorced, but then I married my dh and we decided
to homeschool. She looked happy, like she was relieved
she wasn't being too greedy to hope for a dh who would
be willing to earn the money so his wife could
homeschool his stepkids. And his kids, if that
happened.

What do you guys say when someone wants badly to
homeschool, but it really does seem to you like they
can't because of their life situation?

Juli

=====
You cannot teach a man anything; you can only help him to find it within himself --Galileo

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Tracy Oldfield

What do you guys say when someone wants badly to
homeschool, but it really does seem to you like they
can't because of their life situation?

Juli

Empathise and brainstorm, see if you can find ways
around it...

Or try to...

Tracy