radical unschooling
Johanna
awesome site Sandra!
I like the name. My brother nicknamed me "Radical" when I
was in seventh grade and I have never quite outgrown it,
thankfully.
Johanna
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In a message dated 4/7/01 11:31:11 PM, saninocencio1@... writes:
<< awesome site Sandra! >>
thanks.
Radicals scoot the average over, y'know! <g>
Sandra
<< awesome site Sandra! >>
thanks.
Radicals scoot the average over, y'know! <g>
Sandra
[email protected]
In a message dated 8/27/02 11:19:36 AM Central Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:
<< To me, you either unschool or you don't. No radical needed.
Joanna >>
I agree Joanna. Unfortunately, like you said, there is some confusion with
certain people about what it really means.
I only use the term to describe an unschooler that lets the unschooling
philosophy affect all areas of life. From letting children choose their food,
to bedtimes and beyond.
I don't even like the term unschooling, I prefer natural learning. But terms
can help people understand where you're coming from.
If unschooling is just about education, then radical unschooling is about
parenting.
Just my way of seeing it.
Ren
[email protected] writes:
<< To me, you either unschool or you don't. No radical needed.
Joanna >>
I agree Joanna. Unfortunately, like you said, there is some confusion with
certain people about what it really means.
I only use the term to describe an unschooler that lets the unschooling
philosophy affect all areas of life. From letting children choose their food,
to bedtimes and beyond.
I don't even like the term unschooling, I prefer natural learning. But terms
can help people understand where you're coming from.
If unschooling is just about education, then radical unschooling is about
parenting.
Just my way of seeing it.
Ren
PAUL SMITH
UNSCHOOLING
RADICAL UNSCHOOLING
Sandra Dodd expounds on how people learn
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This is the "office" of Sandra Dodd, of Albuquerque. Mother of three ( Kirby 16b, Marty 13b, Holly 10g), some kind of writer, sort of a teacher, and occasionally a counselor, Sandra is found mostly on the message boards at www.unschooling.com in the Conversations with Sandra Dodd folder. A great site for new homeschoolers is the National Home Educators Network site.
SANDRA IN PERSON:
October 4-5, 2002, Houston, Texas
Oct 11-13, 2002, Columbia, South Carolina.
Click here for more details.
LEARNING ALL THE TIME
People learn by playing, thinking and amazing themselves. They learn while they're laughing at something surprising, and they learn while they're wondering "What the heck is this!?"
I'm a big John Holt fan. Even the book titles are informative and inspiring: Learning All the Time; Never Too Late; Teach Your Own. Here's a link to an interview with John Holt There is a discussion group for John Holt fans you can join called AlwaysLearning which can be joined by sending a blank e-mail to [email protected] .
CAN IT WORK IN THE REAL WORLD?
If unschooling can't work in the real world, nothing at all can. People will say "How will they learn algebra in the real world?" Is there algebra in the real world? If not, why should it be learned? If so, why should it be separated artificially from its actual uses? "Why?" should always be the question that comes before "What?" and "How?" There is a Sesame Street book called Grover and the Everything in the Whole Wide World Museum. There is a "things under the sea" room and "things in the sky" room, but still each room is just a room in a museum, no windows, everything out of context. Then he opens a big door marked "everything else in the whole wide world" and goes out into the sunshine. There is unschooling.
NOT JUST FOR KIDS!
The way adults tend to learn things is the way people best learn--by asking questions, looking things up, trying things out, and getting help when it's needed. That's the way pre-school kids learn too (maybe minus the looking things up), and it is the way "school-age" kids can/should learn as well. Learning is internal. Teachers are lovely assistants at best, and detrimental at worst. "Teaching" is just presentation of material. It doesn't create learning. Artificial divisions of what is "educational" from what is considered NOT educational, and things which are "for kids" from things which are NOT for kids don't benefit kids or adults. Finding learning in play is like the sun coming out on a dank, dark day.
� � � � � � VIDEO GAMES � � � � � � � � �
NEWS and excitement this season following a successful and well-received video games workshop, and a growing collection of testimonials, including a great one by Mary Gold (Zenmomma), with a link to another one: If you give a kid a Nintendo..."
� � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � �
MORE GOOD STUFF!
Articles and essays I've written, and the HEM interview, are listed and linked here. This page is the cutting edge of this site, as it actually gets updated! There's a new article there right now on deschooling!
Unschooling articles tending toward spiritual matters, by Nancy Wooton, Richard Prystowsky, Carol Rice, Kathy Ward and myself.
A collection of accounts of later readers to encourage those who are willing to wait.
HUMOR A profound and profoundly tongue-in-cheek article from the future: "Home Eating a Threat to Public Kitchens? State Allows Growing Trend of Eating At Home"
READING FOR PARENTS, besides all this. Four or five life-changingly important books are listed and each linked to sites with summaries and samples (the bottom of that page).
THINKING STICKS (trust me)
A CURRICULUM which describes unschooling, by Carol Narigon.
SPECIALTY SITES:
International (Japan, Israel, England, Europe, New Zealand, Australia, Canada and maybe more),
Religious (Christian, Moslem, Jewish, LDS, Buddhist, Pagan),
Scouting and Camp Fire and more!
SOME UNSCHOOLING FAMILIES' WEBSITES
The YOUNGEST Unschooling Family, Mae Shell who has just lately, I presume, married Peter Kowalke, has two pages of links to articles and websites. Nicer than this list! They're not easy to find, so bookmark them when you get there! Becoming an Unschooler, What Unschooling Is, Unschooling Pages and Websites. They don't have children so how do they rate here? They are adults in their twenties, both of whom were unschooled!
Kathy Ward's big, fun family has a website which is a marvel in every way.
Karen Arnold has an unschooling page with tales of her children's inspiring doings, and excellent resource lists with more links.
Linda Wyatt writes clearly and passionately about unschooling. Read about her trip to Scotland.
and THE BEST:
Home Education Magazine
NHEN (National Home Education Network intro page)
FUNschooling (catalog and lots of links!)
more Sandra Dodd and a photo of me in England, 06/00.
The older version of this page had 4385 hits on 1/18/01, and this one has had
Thank you for being one of them!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
And last but not least, while you're thinking about learning, here is my current favorite learning tool! Try it�put anything in that magic box, hit "search" and you will be amazed.
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RADICAL UNSCHOOLING
Sandra Dodd expounds on how people learn
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
This is the "office" of Sandra Dodd, of Albuquerque. Mother of three ( Kirby 16b, Marty 13b, Holly 10g), some kind of writer, sort of a teacher, and occasionally a counselor, Sandra is found mostly on the message boards at www.unschooling.com in the Conversations with Sandra Dodd folder. A great site for new homeschoolers is the National Home Educators Network site.
SANDRA IN PERSON:
October 4-5, 2002, Houston, Texas
Oct 11-13, 2002, Columbia, South Carolina.
Click here for more details.
LEARNING ALL THE TIME
People learn by playing, thinking and amazing themselves. They learn while they're laughing at something surprising, and they learn while they're wondering "What the heck is this!?"
I'm a big John Holt fan. Even the book titles are informative and inspiring: Learning All the Time; Never Too Late; Teach Your Own. Here's a link to an interview with John Holt There is a discussion group for John Holt fans you can join called AlwaysLearning which can be joined by sending a blank e-mail to [email protected] .
CAN IT WORK IN THE REAL WORLD?
If unschooling can't work in the real world, nothing at all can. People will say "How will they learn algebra in the real world?" Is there algebra in the real world? If not, why should it be learned? If so, why should it be separated artificially from its actual uses? "Why?" should always be the question that comes before "What?" and "How?" There is a Sesame Street book called Grover and the Everything in the Whole Wide World Museum. There is a "things under the sea" room and "things in the sky" room, but still each room is just a room in a museum, no windows, everything out of context. Then he opens a big door marked "everything else in the whole wide world" and goes out into the sunshine. There is unschooling.
NOT JUST FOR KIDS!
The way adults tend to learn things is the way people best learn--by asking questions, looking things up, trying things out, and getting help when it's needed. That's the way pre-school kids learn too (maybe minus the looking things up), and it is the way "school-age" kids can/should learn as well. Learning is internal. Teachers are lovely assistants at best, and detrimental at worst. "Teaching" is just presentation of material. It doesn't create learning. Artificial divisions of what is "educational" from what is considered NOT educational, and things which are "for kids" from things which are NOT for kids don't benefit kids or adults. Finding learning in play is like the sun coming out on a dank, dark day.
� � � � � � VIDEO GAMES � � � � � � � � �
NEWS and excitement this season following a successful and well-received video games workshop, and a growing collection of testimonials, including a great one by Mary Gold (Zenmomma), with a link to another one: If you give a kid a Nintendo..."
� � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � �
MORE GOOD STUFF!
Articles and essays I've written, and the HEM interview, are listed and linked here. This page is the cutting edge of this site, as it actually gets updated! There's a new article there right now on deschooling!
Unschooling articles tending toward spiritual matters, by Nancy Wooton, Richard Prystowsky, Carol Rice, Kathy Ward and myself.
A collection of accounts of later readers to encourage those who are willing to wait.
HUMOR A profound and profoundly tongue-in-cheek article from the future: "Home Eating a Threat to Public Kitchens? State Allows Growing Trend of Eating At Home"
READING FOR PARENTS, besides all this. Four or five life-changingly important books are listed and each linked to sites with summaries and samples (the bottom of that page).
THINKING STICKS (trust me)
A CURRICULUM which describes unschooling, by Carol Narigon.
SPECIALTY SITES:
International (Japan, Israel, England, Europe, New Zealand, Australia, Canada and maybe more),
Religious (Christian, Moslem, Jewish, LDS, Buddhist, Pagan),
Scouting and Camp Fire and more!
SOME UNSCHOOLING FAMILIES' WEBSITES
The YOUNGEST Unschooling Family, Mae Shell who has just lately, I presume, married Peter Kowalke, has two pages of links to articles and websites. Nicer than this list! They're not easy to find, so bookmark them when you get there! Becoming an Unschooler, What Unschooling Is, Unschooling Pages and Websites. They don't have children so how do they rate here? They are adults in their twenties, both of whom were unschooled!
Kathy Ward's big, fun family has a website which is a marvel in every way.
Karen Arnold has an unschooling page with tales of her children's inspiring doings, and excellent resource lists with more links.
Linda Wyatt writes clearly and passionately about unschooling. Read about her trip to Scotland.
and THE BEST:
Home Education Magazine
NHEN (National Home Education Network intro page)
FUNschooling (catalog and lots of links!)
more Sandra Dodd and a photo of me in England, 06/00.
The older version of this page had 4385 hits on 1/18/01, and this one has had
Thank you for being one of them!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
And last but not least, while you're thinking about learning, here is my current favorite learning tool! Try it�put anything in that magic box, hit "search" and you will be amazed.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Kelli Traaseth
What is this?
Anyone, Anyone?
Kelli
PAUL SMITH wrote:UNSCHOOLING
RADICAL UNSCHOOLING
Sandra Dodd expounds on how people learn
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
This is the "office" of Sandra Dodd, of Albuquerque. Mother of three ( Kirby 16b, Marty 13b, Holly 10g), some kind of writer, sort of a teacher, and occasionally a counselor, Sandra is found mostly on the message boards at www.unschooling.com in the Conversations with Sandra Dodd folder. A great site for new homeschoolers is the National Home Educators Network site.
SANDRA IN PERSON:
October 4-5, 2002, Houston, Texas
Oct 11-13, 2002, Columbia, South Carolina.
Click here for more details.
LEARNING ALL THE TIME
People learn by playing, thinking and amazing themselves. They learn while they're laughing at something surprising, and they learn while they're wondering "What the heck is this!?"
I'm a big John Holt fan. Even the book titles are informative and inspiring: Learning All the Time; Never Too Late; Teach Your Own. Here's a link to an interview with John Holt There is a discussion group for John Holt fans you can join called AlwaysLearning which can be joined by sending a blank e-mail to [email protected] .
CAN IT WORK IN THE REAL WORLD?
If unschooling can't work in the real world, nothing at all can. People will say "How will they learn algebra in the real world?" Is there algebra in the real world? If not, why should it be learned? If so, why should it be separated artificially from its actual uses? "Why?" should always be the question that comes before "What?" and "How?" There is a Sesame Street book called Grover and the Everything in the Whole Wide World Museum. There is a "things under the sea" room and "things in the sky" room, but still each room is just a room in a museum, no windows, everything out of context. Then he opens a big door marked "everything else in the whole wide world" and goes out into the sunshine. There is unschooling.
NOT JUST FOR KIDS!
The way adults tend to learn things is the way people best learn--by asking questions, looking things up, trying things out, and getting help when it's needed. That's the way pre-school kids learn too (maybe minus the looking things up), and it is the way "school-age" kids can/should learn as well. Learning is internal. Teachers are lovely assistants at best, and detrimental at worst. "Teaching" is just presentation of material. It doesn't create learning. Artificial divisions of what is "educational" from what is considered NOT educational, and things which are "for kids" from things which are NOT for kids don't benefit kids or adults. Finding learning in play is like the sun coming out on a dank, dark day.
� � � � � � VIDEO GAMES � � � � � � � � �
NEWS and excitement this season following a successful and well-received video games workshop, and a growing collection of testimonials, including a great one by Mary Gold (Zenmomma), with a link to another one: If you give a kid a Nintendo..."
� � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � �
MORE GOOD STUFF!
Articles and essays I've written, and the HEM interview, are listed and linked here. This page is the cutting edge of this site, as it actually gets updated! There's a new article there right now on deschooling!
Unschooling articles tending toward spiritual matters, by Nancy Wooton, Richard Prystowsky, Carol Rice, Kathy Ward and myself.
A collection of accounts of later readers to encourage those who are willing to wait.
HUMOR A profound and profoundly tongue-in-cheek article from the future: "Home Eating a Threat to Public Kitchens? State Allows Growing Trend of Eating At Home"
READING FOR PARENTS, besides all this. Four or five life-changingly important books are listed and each linked to sites with summaries and samples (the bottom of that page).
THINKING STICKS (trust me)
A CURRICULUM which describes unschooling, by Carol Narigon.
SPECIALTY SITES:
International (Japan, Israel, England, Europe, New Zealand, Australia, Canada and maybe more),
Religious (Christian, Moslem, Jewish, LDS, Buddhist, Pagan),
Scouting and Camp Fire and more!
SOME UNSCHOOLING FAMILIES' WEBSITES
The YOUNGEST Unschooling Family, Mae Shell who has just lately, I presume, married Peter Kowalke, has two pages of links to articles and websites. Nicer than this list! They're not easy to find, so bookmark them when you get there! Becoming an Unschooler, What Unschooling Is, Unschooling Pages and Websites. They don't have children so how do they rate here? They are adults in their twenties, both of whom were unschooled!
Kathy Ward's big, fun family has a website which is a marvel in every way.
Karen Arnold has an unschooling page with tales of her children's inspiring doings, and excellent resource lists with more links.
Linda Wyatt writes clearly and passionately about unschooling. Read about her trip to Scotland.
and THE BEST:
Home Education Magazine
NHEN (National Home Education Network intro page)
FUNschooling (catalog and lots of links!)
more Sandra Dodd and a photo of me in England, 06/00.
The older version of this page had 4385 hits on 1/18/01, and this one has had
Thank you for being one of them!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
And last but not least, while you're thinking about learning, here is my current favorite learning tool! Try it�put anything in that magic box, hit "search" and you will be amazed.
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PAUL SMITH wrote:UNSCHOOLING
RADICAL UNSCHOOLING
Sandra Dodd expounds on how people learn
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This is the "office" of Sandra Dodd, of Albuquerque. Mother of three ( Kirby 16b, Marty 13b, Holly 10g), some kind of writer, sort of a teacher, and occasionally a counselor, Sandra is found mostly on the message boards at www.unschooling.com in the Conversations with Sandra Dodd folder. A great site for new homeschoolers is the National Home Educators Network site.
SANDRA IN PERSON:
October 4-5, 2002, Houston, Texas
Oct 11-13, 2002, Columbia, South Carolina.
Click here for more details.
LEARNING ALL THE TIME
People learn by playing, thinking and amazing themselves. They learn while they're laughing at something surprising, and they learn while they're wondering "What the heck is this!?"
I'm a big John Holt fan. Even the book titles are informative and inspiring: Learning All the Time; Never Too Late; Teach Your Own. Here's a link to an interview with John Holt There is a discussion group for John Holt fans you can join called AlwaysLearning which can be joined by sending a blank e-mail to [email protected] .
CAN IT WORK IN THE REAL WORLD?
If unschooling can't work in the real world, nothing at all can. People will say "How will they learn algebra in the real world?" Is there algebra in the real world? If not, why should it be learned? If so, why should it be separated artificially from its actual uses? "Why?" should always be the question that comes before "What?" and "How?" There is a Sesame Street book called Grover and the Everything in the Whole Wide World Museum. There is a "things under the sea" room and "things in the sky" room, but still each room is just a room in a museum, no windows, everything out of context. Then he opens a big door marked "everything else in the whole wide world" and goes out into the sunshine. There is unschooling.
NOT JUST FOR KIDS!
The way adults tend to learn things is the way people best learn--by asking questions, looking things up, trying things out, and getting help when it's needed. That's the way pre-school kids learn too (maybe minus the looking things up), and it is the way "school-age" kids can/should learn as well. Learning is internal. Teachers are lovely assistants at best, and detrimental at worst. "Teaching" is just presentation of material. It doesn't create learning. Artificial divisions of what is "educational" from what is considered NOT educational, and things which are "for kids" from things which are NOT for kids don't benefit kids or adults. Finding learning in play is like the sun coming out on a dank, dark day.
� � � � � � VIDEO GAMES � � � � � � � � �
NEWS and excitement this season following a successful and well-received video games workshop, and a growing collection of testimonials, including a great one by Mary Gold (Zenmomma), with a link to another one: If you give a kid a Nintendo..."
� � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � �
MORE GOOD STUFF!
Articles and essays I've written, and the HEM interview, are listed and linked here. This page is the cutting edge of this site, as it actually gets updated! There's a new article there right now on deschooling!
Unschooling articles tending toward spiritual matters, by Nancy Wooton, Richard Prystowsky, Carol Rice, Kathy Ward and myself.
A collection of accounts of later readers to encourage those who are willing to wait.
HUMOR A profound and profoundly tongue-in-cheek article from the future: "Home Eating a Threat to Public Kitchens? State Allows Growing Trend of Eating At Home"
READING FOR PARENTS, besides all this. Four or five life-changingly important books are listed and each linked to sites with summaries and samples (the bottom of that page).
THINKING STICKS (trust me)
A CURRICULUM which describes unschooling, by Carol Narigon.
SPECIALTY SITES:
International (Japan, Israel, England, Europe, New Zealand, Australia, Canada and maybe more),
Religious (Christian, Moslem, Jewish, LDS, Buddhist, Pagan),
Scouting and Camp Fire and more!
SOME UNSCHOOLING FAMILIES' WEBSITES
The YOUNGEST Unschooling Family, Mae Shell who has just lately, I presume, married Peter Kowalke, has two pages of links to articles and websites. Nicer than this list! They're not easy to find, so bookmark them when you get there! Becoming an Unschooler, What Unschooling Is, Unschooling Pages and Websites. They don't have children so how do they rate here? They are adults in their twenties, both of whom were unschooled!
Kathy Ward's big, fun family has a website which is a marvel in every way.
Karen Arnold has an unschooling page with tales of her children's inspiring doings, and excellent resource lists with more links.
Linda Wyatt writes clearly and passionately about unschooling. Read about her trip to Scotland.
and THE BEST:
Home Education Magazine
NHEN (National Home Education Network intro page)
FUNschooling (catalog and lots of links!)
more Sandra Dodd and a photo of me in England, 06/00.
The older version of this page had 4385 hits on 1/18/01, and this one has had
Thank you for being one of them!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
And last but not least, while you're thinking about learning, here is my current favorite learning tool! Try it�put anything in that magic box, hit "search" and you will be amazed.
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In a message dated 9/28/02 5:15:25 AM, kellitraas@... writes:
<< What is this?
Anyone, Anyone? >>
That was the text (without links) of my unschooling page.
I'm not sure why someone posted the whole thing here without the URL! <g>
It's
http://sandradodd.com/unschooling
Lots of links there.
Sandra
<< What is this?
Anyone, Anyone? >>
That was the text (without links) of my unschooling page.
I'm not sure why someone posted the whole thing here without the URL! <g>
It's
http://sandradodd.com/unschooling
Lots of links there.
Sandra