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In a message dated 2/2/01 9:20:53 AM, snmanns@... writes:

<< 1. The active ingredient in Coke is phosphoric acid. Its Ph is 2.8. It
will dissolve a nail in about 4 days. >>

I've been hearing this my whole life and darned if I have NEVER ever seen it
happen.

Batter terminals can better be cleaned by baking soda and water, and that's
not dangerous acid.

Rusted bolts can be loosened with spray PAM, and that's not acid.

I think people should put a steak and a nail in some cokacola and get back to
us with the results.

And no, I don't drink Coke. I don't like it at all.

Sandra

Nicoletta Manns

this just came to me from a friend


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Things we've seen before, but a unique comparison. :o) Drink up,
everyone!


WATER
We all know that water is important, but I've never seen it written down
like this before.

a. 75% of Americans are chronically dehydrated. (Likely applies to half
world pop.)
b. In 37% of Americans,the thirst mechanism is so weak that it is often
mistaken for hunger.
c. Even MILD dehydration will slow down one's metabolism as much as 3%.
d. One glass of water shuts down midnight hunger pangs for almost 100% of
the dieters studied in a U-Washington study.
e. Lack of water, the #1 trigger of daytime fatigue.
f. Preliminary research indicates that 8-10 glasses of water a day could
significantly ease back and joint pain for up to 80% of sufferers.
g. A mere 2% drop in body water can trigger fuzzy short-term memory,
trouble with basic math, and difficulty focusing on the computer screen or
on a printed page.
h. Drinking 5 glasses of water daily decreases the risk of colon cancer by
45%, plus it can slash the risk of breast cancer by 79%, and one is 50% less
likely to
develop bladder cancer.

Are you drinking the amount of water you should every day?

COKE
No wonder coke tastes soooo good:
1. In many states (in the USA) the highway patrol carries two gallons of
Coke in the trunk to remove blood from the highway after a car accident.
2. You can put a T-bone steak in a bowl of coke and it will be gone in two
days.
3. To clean a toilet: Pour a can of Coca-Cola into the toilet bowl
and.......Let the "real thing" sit for one hour, then flush clean. The
citric acid in Coke removes
stains from vitreous china.
4. To remove rust spots from chrome car bumpers: Rub the bumper with a
crumpled-up piece of Reynolds Wrap aluminum foil dipped in Coca-Cola.
5. To clean corrosion from car battery terminals: Pour a can of Coca-Cola
over the terminals to bubble away the corrosion.
6. To loosen a rusted bolt: Applying a cloth soaked in Coca-Cola to the
rusted bolt for several minutes.
7. To bake a moist ham: Empty a can of Coca-Cola into the baking pan, wrap
the ham in aluminum foil, and bake. Thirty minutes before the ham is
finished, remove
the foil, allowing the drippings to mix with the Coke for a sumptuous brown
gravy.
8. To remove grease from clothes: Empty a can of coke into a load of
greasy clothes, add detergent, and run through a regular cycle. The
Coca-Cola will help loosen
grease stains. It will also clean road haze from your windshield.

FYI:
1. The active ingredient in Coke is phosphoric acid. Its Ph is 2.8. It
will dissolve a nail in about 4 days.
2. To carry Coca-Cola syrup (the concentrate), the commercial truck must
use the Hazardous material placards reserved for highly corrosive materials.
3. The distributors of coke have been using it to clean the engines of
their trucks for about 20 years!

Still Want To Drink Up????=

Valerie Stewart

Batter terminals can better be cleaned by baking soda and water, and that's
not dangerous acid.

***My dad (a mechanic) used to pour a can of Coke into old car batteries and
let it soak overnight. Worked great.

Valerie in Tacoma

PS I've also taken surface rust off using Coke and rubbing with aluminum
foil.

Tracy Oldfield

I know it dissolves teeth in a couple of days, we did
that one at school... useful for something I guess..

Tracy

In a message dated 2/2/01 9:20:53 AM,
snmanns@... writes:

<< 1. The active ingredient in Coke is phosphoric acid.
Its Ph is 2.8. It
will dissolve a nail in about 4 days. >>

I've been hearing this my whole life and darned if I
have NEVER ever seen it 
happen.

Batter terminals can better be cleaned by baking soda
and water, and that's 
not dangerous acid.

Rusted bolts can be loosened with spray PAM, and that's
not acid.

I think people should put a steak and a nail in some
cokacola and get back to 
us with the results.

And no, I don't drink Coke. I don't like it at all.

Sandra

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In a message dated 2/2/01 5:20:02 PM, tracy.oldfield@... writes:

<< << 1. The active ingredient in Coke is phosphoric acid.
Its Ph is 2.8. It
will dissolve a nail in about 4 days. >> >>

Then how can it stay in a can for weeks/months/years?

-=-I know it dissolves teeth in a couple of days, we did
that one at school... -=-

Holly just lost a tooth. Maybe she'll be willing to sacrifice it.

It seems to me that if any of these things were true, we'd all know for sure
because it would have dissolved many paper cups, plastic cups, straws... it
doesn't dissolve aluminum but it would dissolve a steel nail? It doesn't
hurt a straw, but it would dissolve a tooth?

I've heard "my uncle dissolved a steak" but as with much urban legend, it's
always "my cousin" and if traced back it's "my cousin's neighbor."

Sandra

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In a message dated 2/2/01 5:04:10 PM Pacific Standard Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:

<< It seems to me that if any of these things were true, we'd all know for
sure
because it would have dissolved many paper cups, plastic cups, straws... it
doesn't dissolve aluminum but it would dissolve a steel nail? It doesn't
hurt a straw, but it would dissolve a tooth?
>>

Ah but bleach eats through clothing, some metals but not the plastic bottle
it comes packaged in. I think the chemical reaction is the key. However, I
would love to see a real demonstration of the effect.

Kris

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In a message dated 02/02/2001 11:00:42 PM Pacific Standard Time,
louisaem@... writes:

<< because it would have dissolved many paper cups, plastic cups, straws...
it
doesn't dissolve aluminum but it would dissolve a steel nail? It doesn't
hurt a straw, but it would dissolve a tooth? >>
I don't know about that, but I do know from personal teenage experience that
drinking a coke with aspirin doesn't work! ;-)
Teri

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Christian Unschooling: growing your child in the freedom of Christ</A>
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Lynda

The kidlets have done the rusty nail/bolt/nut thing. They took an old nut
and bolt they found buried in the garden when we were digging up a new part
to plant in. It worked.

Lynda
----- Original Message -----
From: <SandraDodd@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] FW: Water vs Coke


>
> In a message dated 2/2/01 9:20:53 AM, snmanns@... writes:
>
> << 1. The active ingredient in Coke is phosphoric acid. Its Ph is 2.8. It
> will dissolve a nail in about 4 days. >>
>
> I've been hearing this my whole life and darned if I have NEVER ever seen
it
> happen.
>
> Batter terminals can better be cleaned by baking soda and water, and
that's
> not dangerous acid.
>
> Rusted bolts can be loosened with spray PAM, and that's not acid.
>
> I think people should put a steak and a nail in some cokacola and get back
to
> us with the results.
>
> And no, I don't drink Coke. I don't like it at all.
>
> Sandra
>
>
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In a message dated 2/3/01 10:18:11 AM, lurine@... writes:

<< The kidlets have done the rusty nail/bolt/nut thing. They took an old nut
and bolt they found buried in the garden when we were digging up a new part
to plant in. It worked. >>

Were they so rusty they would also have dissolved in water?

Scientific method needs control groups.

And do you need to change the coke out? Will flat coke work as well as fresh?

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In a message dated 2/3/01 10:13:31 AM Pacific Standard Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:

<< And do you need to change the coke out? Will flat coke work as well as
fresh? >>

I thought it was supposed to be the acid that was dissolving the nail, so why
would it matter if it's flat? Curious because my daughter has decided to try
this experiment and we haven't considered changing the coke. Daily? twice a
day? As soon as flat?

And why would it be a surprise that citric acid could clean stains from a
toilet? We use lemons (which have citric acid) to clean things, but we still
eat them.

candice

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In a message dated 2/3/01 11:22:33 AM, czuniga145@... writes:

<< Curious because my daughter has decided to try
this experiment and we haven't considered changing the coke. Daily? twice a
day? As soon as flat? >>

If the claim is coke will dissolve a steak in two days and a nail in four, I
don't think changing the coke would be fair. It didn't say "a steady stream
of fresh coka-cola."


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Not wanting to spend $2.50 on a case of Coke, and not trusting any of the
Coke-fearing people here to actually get scientific, I went to Google.com and
entered "Coke dissolve steak."

In the first entry they listed that same list of Coke-things which was posted
here, and this note followed:

"While all of those stories sound great, Coke is not THAT acidic. In Biology
101 we tried to dissolve a bone, a tooth, and yes a steak with Coke, Dr.
Pepper, and Pepsi, none of them devolved anything after two weeks. Besides
before aluminum cans were popularized in the late 1970's Coke came in tin
cans! If it did not dissolve the cans that it sat in for months at a time,
how could it dissolve a nail in four days? This stuff is dangerous in that
stories like it hurt my Coke stock! -Dennis "

that's at http://www.ilovebacon.com/fooddrink/112000b.shtml
I don't recommend it to the faint of social heart, but still...

There are other sites listed, but Holly needs ride to a party.

Sandra

Lynda

It worked before they changed the formula <g>

Lynda, OAD
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To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 5:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] FW: Water vs Coke


> In a message dated 02/02/2001 11:00:42 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> louisaem@... writes:
>
> << because it would have dissolved many paper cups, plastic cups,
straws...
> it
> doesn't dissolve aluminum but it would dissolve a steel nail? It
doesn't
> hurt a straw, but it would dissolve a tooth? >>
> I don't know about that, but I do know from personal teenage experience
that
> drinking a coke with aspirin doesn't work! ;-)
> Teri
>
> Co-author of <A HREF="http://www.championpress.com/unschoolingmain.html">
> Christian Unschooling: growing your child in the freedom of Christ</A>
> Pre-order's available now!
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HREF="http://www.egroups.com/group/Seedling">eGroups :
> Seedling</A>
> For more information see:
> <A
HREF="http://www.inspirit.com.au/unschooling/default.htm">Homeschooling -
> Christian Unschooling - Natural Learning</A>
>
>
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Lynda

My budding little scientists went down to the junkyard and got a dozen
bolt/nut combos. They used diet coke, coke, 7-up, tap water, bottled water,
shasta, perrier, milk (don't ask <g>), pepsi, diet pepsi, RC, silicon spray
and 20/50 weight oil.

Coca Cola came in 1st with the 20/50 oil coming in last. They used peanut
butter jars and loosely placed the lids on them.

They have done several "scientific" experiments including a bunch of what
they call blindfold tests (taste tests) including which of the milks is
goat's milk.

Lynda
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To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 10:13 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] FW: Water vs Coke


>
> In a message dated 2/3/01 10:18:11 AM, lurine@... writes:
>
> << The kidlets have done the rusty nail/bolt/nut thing. They took an old
nut
> and bolt they found buried in the garden when we were digging up a new
part
> to plant in. It worked. >>
>
> Were they so rusty they would also have dissolved in water?
>
> Scientific method needs control groups.
>
> And do you need to change the coke out? Will flat coke work as well as
fresh?
>
>
>
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Lynda

Closed environments are not the same as open (added oxygen) environments. I
don't know about the rest of the list of things it is suppose to do, I do
know that the rust one works.

And, just curious, why would someone on Goggle be anymore trust worthy than
someone on this list? If you want double blind tests, then taking the word
of an unknown entity is hardly very scientific.

Lynda
----- Original Message -----
From: <SandraDodd@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] FW: Water vs Coke


> Not wanting to spend $2.50 on a case of Coke, and not trusting any of the
> Coke-fearing people here to actually get scientific, I went to Google.com
and
> entered "Coke dissolve steak."
>
> In the first entry they listed that same list of Coke-things which was
posted
> here, and this note followed:
>
> "While all of those stories sound great, Coke is not THAT acidic. In
Biology
> 101 we tried to dissolve a bone, a tooth, and yes a steak with Coke, Dr.
> Pepper, and Pepsi, none of them devolved anything after two weeks. Besides
> before aluminum cans were popularized in the late 1970's Coke came in tin
> cans! If it did not dissolve the cans that it sat in for months at a time,
> how could it dissolve a nail in four days? This stuff is dangerous in that
> stories like it hurt my Coke stock! -Dennis "
>
> that's at http://www.ilovebacon.com/fooddrink/112000b.shtml
> I don't recommend it to the faint of social heart, but still...
>
> There are other sites listed, but Holly needs ride to a party.
>
> Sandra
>
>
>
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In a message dated 2/4/01 2:08:31 AM, lurine@... writes:

<< And, just curious, why would someone on Goggle be anymore trust worthy than
someone on this list? If you want double blind tests, then taking the word
of an unknown entity is hardly very scientific. >>


Google. It's a big search engine. Look yourself. It's not "someone," it's
an internet tool to find things. If you go there, you'll see that that Coca
Cola list is repeated on dozens of humor sites, and a few places in which the
people thought it was for real. Then there are some places in which it was
discussed for the urban legend it is.

-=-Coca Cola came in 1st with the 20/50 oil coming in last. They used peanut
butter jars and loosely placed the lids on them.-=-

Came in first doing what? Removing rust? Loosening the nut? Dissolving it
completely?

Lynda

Ahhh, but also on the urban legends sites is a statement about sponges being
safe and that all the stuff that made the rounds of the internet about
deadly chemicals were urban legends.

Not the case as the sponges themselves clearly state that they are
poisonious to fish.

I can go on and on with this about how all these expert sites are not
correct. The questions still remains unanswered as to point of fact.

And, yes, I know all about Goggle and Dogpile and Yahoo and AskJives and
about 20 other search engines that I use on a routine basis.

And as I remember, the conversation was about removing rust from nails and
bolts, therefore I didn't think I needed to repeat the nature of the project
3 times. They found a rusted together nut and bolt in the garden. The coke
ate the rust away faster and more completely than the other products. In
some cases the nut and bolt were reduced to a mere shadow of their former
selves. Short of ultrasound and x-rays there would be no way to determine
in advance the degree of rust damage and as this was a project done by
children, not a scientific lab, AND they never thought they would have to
stand the scrutiny of nit picking, we didn't feel the expense of doing so
would be justified. However, they did look into this area and had a nice
long conversation with a local lab who provided them with some sheet to fill
out that they use when doing double blind tests. I thought this was kinda
nice of the lab folks.

Lynda
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From: <SandraDodd@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 1:30 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] FW: Water vs Coke


>
> In a message dated 2/4/01 2:08:31 AM, lurine@... writes:
>
> << And, just curious, why would someone on Goggle be anymore trust worthy
than
> someone on this list? If you want double blind tests, then taking the
word
> of an unknown entity is hardly very scientific. >>
>
>
> Google. It's a big search engine. Look yourself. It's not "someone,"
it's
> an internet tool to find things. If you go there, you'll see that that
Coca
> Cola list is repeated on dozens of humor sites, and a few places in which
the
> people thought it was for real. Then there are some places in which it
was
> discussed for the urban legend it is.
>
> -=-Coca Cola came in 1st with the 20/50 oil coming in last. They used
peanut
> butter jars and loosely placed the lids on them.-=-
>
> Came in first doing what? Removing rust? Loosening the nut? Dissolving
it
> completely?
>
>
>
>
>
>
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