Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] off topic?
Elizabeth Hill
**It is an interesting question, which controversial subjects should be
allowed under the unschooling rubric and which should not.**
Permission to change the subject? (And not because I'm offended... just
because I'm highly distractable. ;-)
I've been wondering recently about that word "rubric" which has become
popular in education-ese. So I looked it up in my 20 year old dictionary
and the meaning was roughly "heading or title" from the practice of
printing headings in red. That matches how you used the word, but doesn't
really match the new Ed-speak meaning.
In the teaching world, does "rubric" now mean "goal" or something like
that? Anyone know? And is this part of a special attempt to be mysterious
and baffle parents?
Betsy
allowed under the unschooling rubric and which should not.**
Permission to change the subject? (And not because I'm offended... just
because I'm highly distractable. ;-)
I've been wondering recently about that word "rubric" which has become
popular in education-ese. So I looked it up in my 20 year old dictionary
and the meaning was roughly "heading or title" from the practice of
printing headings in red. That matches how you used the word, but doesn't
really match the new Ed-speak meaning.
In the teaching world, does "rubric" now mean "goal" or something like
that? Anyone know? And is this part of a special attempt to be mysterious
and baffle parents?
Betsy
[email protected]
In a message dated 1/25/01 2:34:31 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
It is an interesting question, which controversial subjects should be allowed
under the unschooling rubric and which should not. I remember a while back
we upheld that weaning from the breast is a fit for an unschooling list.
Recently we have also been happily sharing our experiences about family
co-sleeping. I wonder why Jesus is off topic? Really, I am just curious, not
trying to be inflammatory here.
cath
[email protected] writes:
Why isn't this list for this type of debate? What debate? One person says
something another disagrees, the first person has no intention of arguing
her first point and yet it seems some people get all flustered and have to
make sure things stay calm and smooth and homogenized
It is an interesting question, which controversial subjects should be allowed
under the unschooling rubric and which should not. I remember a while back
we upheld that weaning from the breast is a fit for an unschooling list.
Recently we have also been happily sharing our experiences about family
co-sleeping. I wonder why Jesus is off topic? Really, I am just curious, not
trying to be inflammatory here.
cath
[email protected]
In a message dated 01/27/2001 9:22:55 PM !!!First Boot!!!, benliam@...
writes:
It just gets tedious when it's the same 2 or 3 people going back and forth
and someone flares up and then they send quotes and urls back and forth and
nothing ever gets resolved and it's the same 2 or 3 people who got all riled
up and off on a tangent the last time . . .
But maybe it's not their fault.
Maybe we need a new topic.
I can't come up with one right now because I think my head is going to
explode because of this sinus cold I have but someone, please, come up with
something interesting to discuss.
Or not.
I'm going to go to bed.
Nance
writes:
. I wonder why Jesus is off topic? Really, I am just curious, not
trying to be inflammatory here.
cath
It just gets tedious when it's the same 2 or 3 people going back and forth
and someone flares up and then they send quotes and urls back and forth and
nothing ever gets resolved and it's the same 2 or 3 people who got all riled
up and off on a tangent the last time . . .
But maybe it's not their fault.
Maybe we need a new topic.
I can't come up with one right now because I think my head is going to
explode because of this sinus cold I have but someone, please, come up with
something interesting to discuss.
Or not.
I'm going to go to bed.
Nance
[email protected]
In a message dated 1/27/01 4:22:37 PM Pacific Standard Time,
marbleface@... writes:
<< It just gets tedious when it's the same 2 or 3 people going back and forth
and someone flares up and then they send quotes and urls back and forth and
nothing ever gets resolved and it's the same 2 or 3 people who got all riled
up and off on a tangent the last time . . .
involved in such a discussion to interact through private e-mails.
As for a new thread, isn't it interesting that with such a full range of
religious beliefs we've all come to unschooling. So far we seem to have
members who identify themselves as Christians, Pagans, of Native American
beliefs, Buddhists and Hindus and Other, yet we all share our educational
philosophy. It might be interesting to discuss the connection between our
spiritual beliefs and our beliefs about learning. I'll be happy to write
about this but right now I have to go to Satsang (our Hindu "church"
service.) -Amalia-
marbleface@... writes:
<< It just gets tedious when it's the same 2 or 3 people going back and forth
and someone flares up and then they send quotes and urls back and forth and
nothing ever gets resolved and it's the same 2 or 3 people who got all riled
up and off on a tangent the last time . . .
>>My 20yo daughter's opinion is that what's appropriate is for the people
involved in such a discussion to interact through private e-mails.
As for a new thread, isn't it interesting that with such a full range of
religious beliefs we've all come to unschooling. So far we seem to have
members who identify themselves as Christians, Pagans, of Native American
beliefs, Buddhists and Hindus and Other, yet we all share our educational
philosophy. It might be interesting to discuss the connection between our
spiritual beliefs and our beliefs about learning. I'll be happy to write
about this but right now I have to go to Satsang (our Hindu "church"
service.) -Amalia-
[email protected]
In a message dated 1/27/01 19:22:34 Uhr, marbleface@... writes:
<<
It just gets tedious when it's the same 2 or 3 people going back and forth
and someone flares up and then they send quotes and urls back and forth and
nothing ever gets resolved and it's the same 2 or 3 people who got all riled
up and off on a tangent the last time . . .
to me means that school and life are not separate entities. Thus most topics
will relate in some way to unschooling. Just my .02 cents. Kimme
<<
It just gets tedious when it's the same 2 or 3 people going back and forth
and someone flares up and then they send quotes and urls back and forth and
nothing ever gets resolved and it's the same 2 or 3 people who got all riled
up and off on a tangent the last time . . .
>>I find most conversation interesting and if I don't I delete it. Unschooling
to me means that school and life are not separate entities. Thus most topics
will relate in some way to unschooling. Just my .02 cents. Kimme
Elizabeth Hill
>I find most conversation interesting and if I don't I delete it.Unschooling
>to me means that school and life are not separate entities. Thus mostI find most stuff written by list members from their personal experience to
>topics will relate in some way to unschooling.
> Just my .02 cents. Kimme
be interesting. However, I have less tolerance for long forwarded
messages. That's not the type of sharing I'm really looking for here.
Betsy
[email protected]
In a message dated 1/27/01 4:22:37 PM Pacific Standard Time,
<< I wonder why Jesus is off topic? Really, I am just curious, not
can hold historical and philosophical significance. I would love it if
everyone would send out a post on their religious beliefs or lack thereof. It
is such a huge part of who we are and how we raise and educate our children.
It would be great if we could all do that without critiquing someone else's
faith.
The problem comes in when people feel the need to qualify their beliefs with
things like "I must confess" or "I'm not going to hide". When the post start
to be offensive and/or defensive then things tend to go downhill.
I believe Jesus Christ was the Son of God and a beautiful example of how one
should try to live one's life. I believe that how we live is what really
matters. If your Pagan beliefs inspire you to hold out a hand to someone who
needs it, if your Islamic views teach you to respect and care for your
elders, if your Buddhist philosophy teaches you to find and perpetuate peace
then, as they say, it's all good.
The greatest influence my faith has had on my homeschooling philosophy is
that it has inspired me to make sure our learning is less self-centered than
it might otherwise be.
candice
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Hold fast to dreams
For if dreams die
Life is a broken-winged bird
That cannot fly.
-Langston Hughes
<< I wonder why Jesus is off topic? Really, I am just curious, not
> trying to be inflammatory here. >>I don't think Jesus is off-topic at all. Even for non-Christians, his life
can hold historical and philosophical significance. I would love it if
everyone would send out a post on their religious beliefs or lack thereof. It
is such a huge part of who we are and how we raise and educate our children.
It would be great if we could all do that without critiquing someone else's
faith.
The problem comes in when people feel the need to qualify their beliefs with
things like "I must confess" or "I'm not going to hide". When the post start
to be offensive and/or defensive then things tend to go downhill.
I believe Jesus Christ was the Son of God and a beautiful example of how one
should try to live one's life. I believe that how we live is what really
matters. If your Pagan beliefs inspire you to hold out a hand to someone who
needs it, if your Islamic views teach you to respect and care for your
elders, if your Buddhist philosophy teaches you to find and perpetuate peace
then, as they say, it's all good.
The greatest influence my faith has had on my homeschooling philosophy is
that it has inspired me to make sure our learning is less self-centered than
it might otherwise be.
candice
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Hold fast to dreams
For if dreams die
Life is a broken-winged bird
That cannot fly.
-Langston Hughes
mary krzyzanowski
Hi,
Rubric has 2 meanings. 1. a section heading, direction, etc. often in red
(hence red-letter days). 2. any rule, explanatory comment.
Mary-NY
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Rubric has 2 meanings. 1. a section heading, direction, etc. often in red
(hence red-letter days). 2. any rule, explanatory comment.
Mary-NY
>From: "Elizabeth Hill" <ecsamhill@...>_________________________________________________________________
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] off topic?
>Date: 27 Jan 2001 17:26:55 +0000
>
>**It is an interesting question, which controversial subjects should be
>allowed under the unschooling rubric and which should not.**
>
>Permission to change the subject? (And not because I'm offended... just
>because I'm highly distractable. ;-)
>
>I've been wondering recently about that word "rubric" which has become
>popular in education-ese. So I looked it up in my 20 year old dictionary
>and the meaning was roughly "heading or title" from the practice of
>printing headings in red. That matches how you used the word, but doesn't
>really match the new Ed-speak meaning.
>
>In the teaching world, does "rubric" now mean "goal" or something like
>that? Anyone know? And is this part of a special attempt to be mysterious
>and baffle parents?
>
>Betsy
>
>
>
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Elizabeth Hill
>I believe Jesus Christ was the Son of God and a beautiful example of howI'm just a born skeptic and am unable to believe anything that seems
>one should try to live one's life.
magical or unscientific to me.
SO... I believe Jesus Christ was the son of man AND a beautiful example of
how one should try to live one's life.
In some ways, we're not so far apart. :-)
Betsy
dawn
> >I believe Jesus Christ was the Son of God and a beautiful example of howPerhaps I'm even more of a skeptic and I'm sure my son is. I just read
> >one should try to live one's life.
>
> I'm just a born skeptic and am unable to believe anything that seems
> magical or unscientific to me.
>
> SO... I believe Jesus Christ was the son of man AND a beautiful example of
> how one should try to live one's life.
>
the two previous quotes to him to help him understand how he and his xian
friends maybe do share some common ground in that way, and he immediately
asked me, "Is there any evidence that Jesus ever existed?" I dont' know
the answer to that. Is there? OUtside of the Bible, that is.
dawn h-s
[email protected]
In a message dated 1/30/01 6:39:07 PM Pacific Standard Time,
ecsamhill@... writes:
<< I'm just a born skeptic and am unable to believe anything that seems
magical or unscientific to me.
SO... I believe Jesus Christ was the son of man AND a beautiful example of
how one should try to live one's life.
In some ways, we're not so far apart. :-) >>
The beauty of it is we are both allowed to believe what we do, and even with
our different perspectives, we can both learn great things, perhaps even from
each other.
candice
ecsamhill@... writes:
<< I'm just a born skeptic and am unable to believe anything that seems
magical or unscientific to me.
SO... I believe Jesus Christ was the son of man AND a beautiful example of
how one should try to live one's life.
In some ways, we're not so far apart. :-) >>
The beauty of it is we are both allowed to believe what we do, and even with
our different perspectives, we can both learn great things, perhaps even from
each other.
candice
Bonnie Painter
There is actually an interesting book called the "The Jesus Mysteries" which
touches on that very subject.
Bonnie
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touches on that very subject.
Bonnie
>From: dawn <dawn@...>_________________________________________________________________
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] off topic?
>Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 18:52:28 -0800 (PST)
>
> > >I believe Jesus Christ was the Son of God and a beautiful example of
>how
> > >one should try to live one's life.
> >
> > I'm just a born skeptic and am unable to believe anything that seems
> > magical or unscientific to me.
> >
> > SO... I believe Jesus Christ was the son of man AND a beautiful example
>of
> > how one should try to live one's life.
> >
>Perhaps I'm even more of a skeptic and I'm sure my son is. I just read
>the two previous quotes to him to help him understand how he and his xian
>friends maybe do share some common ground in that way, and he immediately
>asked me, "Is there any evidence that Jesus ever existed?" I dont' know
>the answer to that. Is there? OUtside of the Bible, that is.
>dawn h-s
>
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In a message dated 1/30/2001 7:09:49 PM Pacific Standard Time, dawn@...
writes:
There are mentions of Jesus in the Roman texts of Pliny and Josephus - worth
researching if you are interested. The history channel did a great show on
Jesus as an actual historical figure using only non-biblical resources.
Quite interesting, for anyone who enjoys history as I do!
Dawn
writes:
"Is there any evidence that Jesus ever existed?" I dont' know
the answer to that. Is there? OUtside of the Bible, that is.
dawn h-s
There are mentions of Jesus in the Roman texts of Pliny and Josephus - worth
researching if you are interested. The history channel did a great show on
Jesus as an actual historical figure using only non-biblical resources.
Quite interesting, for anyone who enjoys history as I do!
Dawn