Sonia Ulan

Hi Everyone,

I've asked for advice related to health concerns in the past and I'd
like to do it again now if I may. I have a friend whose 2 year old
daughter has cradle cap. Is this possible? I've never really noticed
it on this little girl before but her mother claims that she's always
had it and as the hair is growing longer it's starting to grow unevenly
and even patchy in some areas. Does anyone have any
advice/ideas/wondercures to help us out here?

Another concern I have for this little sweetie (I occasionally babysit
her) is she seems to drink an AWFUL LOT for such a wee thing. Every
time she is here I will see her go through 4 or 5 or more (?), 8-10
ounce tumblers of watered down juice in a 4-5 hour period. Is it just
me or is this excessive? She just seems to glug and glug and glug. I'm
sure as a result of this plentiful fluid intake she also does not tend
to eat much. To me, her little tummy seems un-naturally swelled and not
just with "baby fat". To feel her abdomen, she is very firm to the
touch. I have had some basic and vague discussion with the mother about
the girl's fluid intake and the Mom definitely agrees that little
"Mikayla" drinks a lot. I'm not sure how vigorously she has pursued it
with a doctor. I worry about this dear girl as I know her life is not
an easy one. I wonder if Mikayla may be experiencing some stress as she
has been in a lot of daycare situations for extended periods of time.
Her mother is single and works long hours.

Any help, ideas, suggestions anyone might have would be greatly
appreciated. Is anyone out there in the medical profession?

Thank you so much,

Sonia in Saskatchewan

Tracy Oldfield

My eldest has cradle-cap still. I've never done
anything specific about it, to be honest. and she also
used to drink tons of juice, which I worried about, cos
dh wanted 'em to have sugar-free juice and she would
never have plain water, so it's squash with artificial
sweetener... I know, but he shops... If she drinks
from 'sippy-cups,' could this be a comfort thing? Does
she have a pacifier? I think it could have been this
with mine, cos she never had a dummy and wasn't
breastfed for long.

HTH some
Tracy

Hi Everyone,

I've asked for advice related to health concerns in the
past and I'd
like to do it again now if I may. I have a friend
whose 2 year old
daughter has cradle cap.

Yvonne C Smith

Hi Sonia,
About the cradle cap, my children have all had some form of it at
some point. More shampooing never helped. The advice in What to Expect
the First Year is to use baby oil, massage into the scalp, comb through,
and wash out. I did try this. It only worked temporarily and was a
major pain. When just left alone it would come and go, never bothered
the kids, and was generally gone by about 2 1/2 or 3. I've also read
that it causes no harm to the children. I have babysat many children and
been involved in many mothers' groups. I have seen many, many children
with this. IMO it is a normal baby thing.
About the fluid intake, I agree with you that this will cause her to
eat less. It will give her many unneeded empty calories. Although I
don't think it will really harm her, I do think it is what she is used
to and uses it for comfort. Does she take a pacifier or have a favorite
toy or blanket that she takes everywhere? You could try distracting her
with activities that keep her hands busy or try different snacks that she
can help prepare. Of course, the Mom should discuss it with her doctor.


Yvonne
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Hi Sonia,

Cradle cap is something I have experience with. Ds had it and still does at
5 if we don't keep it under control. The first mistake I made in treating it
was to use creams and oils (don't remember what, but everything was
recommended by family as what they had heard was good). Finally, I was told
by a doctor to use dandruff shampoo and to gently scrub the scalp, and use a
fine comb to remove it while the hair and scalp are wet. This worked
wonders. Within the first week, it was gone (under control). Now, if we
don't scrub while shampooing, his will return. I noticed a small patch when
we were having his hair cut. I didn't realize it was the same thing, but
that's what the beautician told me. She also said it was not uncommon (in
her opinion) for a 5yo to have it. We had long since stopped using the
shampoo. The dandruff shampoo the doctor recommended was Selsun Blue, by the
way, but I'm sure any dandruff shampoo would work. He also told us cradle
cap was an oil based condition, so applying creams and oils was only
contributing to the problem.

As far as the liquids go, ds is a heavy consumer. He drinks milk, however,
and not juice. He has been drinking three to four gallons a week for the
past couple of years, and probably two to three gallons before that. We
always have food available for him and he eats when he is hungry. We also
give him a multi vitamin daily. I personally wouldn't want him to drink that
much juice. Juice messes with my digestive system (especially if I drink it
before a meal), so I am leery of it, but I don't really know if that might be
what is affecting her. I have heard that most children at that age go
through a period where they don't eat much. Ds had a very healthy appetite
at that age, however, so I can't offer any advice there. I know many others
will be along with plenty of suggestions for you, though.

Cheryl
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In a message dated 12/7/00 11:54:17 PM Pacific Standard Time, sulan@...
writes:

>
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I've asked for advice related to health concerns in the past and I'd
> like to do it again now if I may. I have a friend whose 2 year old
> daughter has cradle cap. Is this possible? I've never really noticed
> it on this little girl before but her mother claims that she's always
> had it and as the hair is growing longer it's starting to grow unevenly
> and even patchy in some areas. Does anyone have any
> advice/ideas/wondercures to help us out here?
>
> Another concern I have for this little sweetie (I occasionally babysit
> her) is she seems to drink an AWFUL LOT for such a wee thing. Every
> time she is here I will see her go through 4 or 5 or more (?), 8-10
> ounce tumblers of watered down juice in a 4-5 hour period. Is it just
> me or is this excessive? She just seems to glug and glug and glug. I'm
> sure as a result of this plentiful fluid intake she also does not tend
> to eat much. To me, her little tummy seems un-naturally swelled and not
> just with "baby fat". To feel her abdomen, she is very firm to the
> touch. I have had some basic and vague discussion with the mother about
> the girl's fluid intake and the Mom definitely agrees that little
> "Mikayla" drinks a lot. I'm not sure how vigorously she has pursued it
> with a doctor. I worry about this dear girl as I know her life is not
> an easy one. I wonder if Mikayla may be experiencing some stress as she
> has been in a lot of daycare situations for extended periods of time.
> Her mother is single and works long hours.
>
> Any help, ideas, suggestions anyone might have would be greatly
> appreciated. Is anyone out there in the medical profession?
>
> Thank you so much,
>
> Sonia in Saskatchewan
>

Valerie

Cheryl (and Sonia),

My baby had cradle cap and the dr also recommended Selsun Blue shampoo. That
took care of it.
But the reason my daughter had cc so bad was she was allergic to milk. And a
sign of allergy is being "addicted" to it, as in drinking huge
quanities...just something to consider Cheryl. Eliminating all milk
products kept my dd's cradle cap from coming back. Using the shampoo cleared
up what was already there.

--Valerie

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In a message dated 12/8/00 7:22:43 AM Pacific Standard Time,
valeries@... writes:

> Cheryl (and Sonia),
>
> My baby had cradle cap and the dr also recommended Selsun Blue shampoo.
That
> took care of it.
> But the reason my daughter had cc so bad was she was allergic to milk. And
a
> sign of allergy is being "addicted" to it, as in drinking huge
> quanities...just something to consider Cheryl. Eliminating all milk
> products kept my dd's cradle cap from coming back. Using the shampoo
cleared
> up what was already there.
>
> --Valerie

Oh my, eliminate milk! Ds would certainly have to go into a treatment center
to kick that habit. LOL I guess we'll just have to get used to the cradle
cap. After I wrote that post, I realized I had stopped using the shampoo
because I thought he had outgrown the cradle cap. It's on my shopping list
now, though. What are the other signs of being allergic to milk? I was
thinking he just produced a lot of oil, because we also have a problem with
tiny blackheads on his nose.

Cheryl
Nicholas Academy Homeschooling Resources
http://nicholasacademy.homestead.com

Valerie

Oh my, eliminate milk! Ds would certainly have to go into a treatment
center
to kick that habit. LOL I guess we'll just have to get used to the cradle
cap. After I wrote that post, I realized I had stopped using the shampoo
because I thought he had outgrown the cradle cap. It's on my shopping list
now, though. What are the other signs of being allergic to milk? I was
thinking he just produced a lot of oil, because we also have a problem with
tiny blackheads on his nose.

Cheryl
Nicholas Academy Homeschooling Resources
http://nicholasacademy.homestead.com

Hey, nobody said this would be easy. :)

Maybe he does produce a lot of oil, but the amount of milk he's taking in
really made me think of allergies. There's many signs of a hidden allergy. I
suggest the book "Is This Your Child?" by Doris Rapp. That's what made me
realize my daughter had an allergy. But a big symptom is seeming "addicted"
to the thing you're actually allergic to. And with milk common side effects
are: cradle cap, athlete's foot, constant stuffy nose. Also "behavior
problems" and fitful sleep. And sinus and ear infections. He doesn't need to
have all these things happening for it to be an allergy. The only way to
find out is to totally eliminate the possible culprit for a least a week.

good luck...Valerie

Cory and Amy Nelson

Sonia-

It definitely sounds unusual for that little girl to be drinking that much,
at least from my limited experience with my daughter. Has her thyroid been
tested? That and the possibility of diabetes also popped into my mind. I
have no medical training so I could be completely off. Hope somebody has
good advice for you!

Amy
Mama to Accalia (6/14/99)
"The hardest to learn was the least complicated" -Indigo Girls

> Any help, ideas, suggestions anyone might have would be greatly
> appreciated. Is anyone out there in the medical profession?

Cory and Amy Nelson

Wow, do I feel silly suggesting thyroid or diabetes when so far it seems
your friend's daughter is behaving fairly typically. <Blushing> and going to
hide underneath a rock.

Amy
Mama to Accalia (6/14/99)
"The hardest to learn was the least complicated" -Indigo Girls

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In a message dated 00-12-08 12:28:30 EST, you write:

<< Wow, do I feel silly suggesting thyroid or diabetes when so far it seems
your friend's daughter is behaving fairly typically. <Blushing> and going to
hide underneath a rock. >>

I thought diabetes too. Don't feel bad. <g>

Cory and Amy Nelson

Whew! Glad I wasn't the only one :). I'm happy to learn about this, though,
since I'll be more prepared with future children if cradle cap would be a
problem.

Amy
Mama to Accalia (6/14/99)
"The hardest to learn was the least complicated" -Indigo Girls

> I thought diabetes too. Don't feel bad. <g>

Yvonne C Smith

Amy,
Don't feel silly about the thyroid or diabetes thing. It's always
better to ask and check out the possibilities than not! (And excessive
thirst is a warning sign of diabetes.)

Yvonne
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I second the advice on removing dairy. When we took all forms of dairy out
of my son's diet, his cradle cap disappeared (he was 3 years old), along
with a lot of other problems that were occuring (stuffy nose, inability to
sleep deeply, sensory integration problems).

Though I grew up on a farm and remember begging my grandma to just shake the
cream back into the jar of milk instead of skimming it off the top, I have
come to believe that dairy is really a pretty bad thing for most people to
be drinking a whole lot of. Esp. as most supermarket dairy contains BGH
(Bovine Growth Hormones). But I still miss it :-)

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In a message dated 12/8/00 8:19:28 AM Pacific Standard Time,
valeries@... writes:

> I
> suggest the book "Is This Your Child?" by Doris Rapp. That's what made me
> realize my daughter had an allergy. But a big symptom is seeming "addicted"
> to the thing you're actually allergic to. And with milk common side effects
> are: cradle cap, athlete's foot, constant stuffy nose. Also "behavior
> problems" and fitful sleep. And sinus and ear infections. He doesn't need
to
> have all these things happening for it to be an allergy. The only way to
> find out is to totally eliminate the possible culprit for a least a week.
>
> good luck...Valerie

Thanks, Valerie. I'm putting that on my library list. He has three of the
other things you list there, also. I would never have thought the cause
could be an allergy.

Cheryl
Nicholas Academy Homeschooling Resources
http://nicholasacademy.homestead.com

Sonia Ulan

I want to thank all of the kind souls who have responded to my plea! If
anyone else has anything further to offer please keep the ideas and
suggestions coming...

Thanks again for the care and concern,

Sonia


Hi Everyone,
> >
> > I've asked for advice related to health concerns in the past and I'd
> > like to do it again now if I may. I have a friend whose 2 year old
> > daughter has cradle cap. Is this possible? I've never really noticed
> > it on this little girl before but her mother claims that she's always
> > had it and as the hair is growing longer it's starting to grow unevenly
> > and even patchy in some areas. Does anyone have any
> > advice/ideas/wondercures to help us out here?
> >
> > Another concern I have for this little sweetie (I occasionally babysit
> > her) is she seems to drink an AWFUL LOT for such a wee thing. Every
> > time she is here I will see her go through 4 or 5 or more (?), 8-10
> > ounce tumblers of watered down juice in a 4-5 hour period. Is it just
> > me or is this excessive? She just seems to glug and glug and glug. I'm
> > sure as a result of this plentiful fluid intake she also does not tend
> > to eat much. To me, her little tummy seems un-naturally swelled and not
> > just with "baby fat". To feel her abdomen, she is very firm to the
> > touch. I have had some basic and vague discussion with the mother about
> > the girl's fluid intake and the Mom definitely agrees that little
> > "Mikayla" drinks a lot. I'm not sure how vigorously she has pursued it
> > with a doctor. I worry about this dear girl as I know her life is not
> > an easy one. I wonder if Mikayla may be experiencing some stress as she
> > has been in a lot of daycare situations for extended periods of time.
> > Her mother is single and works long hours.
> >
> > Any help, ideas, suggestions anyone might have would be greatly
> > appreciated. Is anyone out there in the medical profession?
> >
> > Thank you so much,
> >
> > Sonia in Saskatchewan
> >
>
>
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Susan in FL

I have a friend whose 2 year old daughter has cradle cap. Is this
possible?

I noticed this at times with my son even after he was no longer an infant.
My doctor suggested I try something his mom had used, not medical school but
it worked. Put olive oil on the scalp & message it in. I then used a
fingernail brush & worked on the problem areas. This solved our problem.

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In a message dated 12/8/00 6:50:06 AM Pacific Standard Time,
NicholasAcademy@... writes:

<< Finally, I was told
by a doctor to use dandruff shampoo and to gently scrub the scalp, and use a
fine comb to remove it while the hair and scalp are wet. This worked
wonders. Within the first week, it was gone (under control). Now, if we
don't scrub while shampooing, his will return. I noticed a small patch when
we were having his hair cut. I didn't realize it was the same thing, but
that's what the beautician told me. She also said it was not uncommon (in
her opinion) for a 5yo to have it. >>

This was my experience as well. My little guy needed to have it scrubbed and
brushed off (with a baby brush) regularly. I still make sure I scrub his
scalp real good (gently of course). His hair didn't grow until we got rid of
the cradle cap either.

Kris