Re: Reading in Good Time
Thomas and Nanci Kuykendall
At 10:51 AM 6/2/99 EDT, you wrote:
I will never forget then image of my mother and older brother sitting at
the dining room table for hours every evening, both crying in frustration,
trying to force him to learn to read. This torture went on for weeks. He
was about the age of your son, or a little older. I was reading and
composing poetry by five, so they thought there was something wrong with
him. But my brother is just the type of person who likes to be cautious
and takes things all in his own time.
He is very much like my one year old, who is very analytical and technical
in his play style, yet very emotionally sensitive. That summer we took a
car trip and my parents were reading Last of the Mohicans aloud to us, to
pass the time on the road. My father reached a key passage in the book and
then passed it to my brother saying, "Here Neil, it's your turn to read..."
He picked it up and dove right in to the story, and has never looked back.
He is now a voracious reader and loves highly technical Science Fiction
novels. He must have devoured thousands more books than me, although I am
also an avid reader. I just can't keep up with him. He also spent four
years in the Navy as a "tech" working on the electronic and computer
systems on Viking Jets, and he now manages a retail computer software store.
Not bad, for the "poor little third grader" who couldn't read. Your son
will come around, in his own good time.
Nanci K.
>From: ChrissR123@......I still do have the doubts sometimes. MOSTLY wiht the
>7year old since he isn't reading yet. I think once he masters that, all theChristina;
>doors will open and I can relax. Silly huh?
>
>Glad to have found this list and look forward to meeting everyone.
>Christina
I will never forget then image of my mother and older brother sitting at
the dining room table for hours every evening, both crying in frustration,
trying to force him to learn to read. This torture went on for weeks. He
was about the age of your son, or a little older. I was reading and
composing poetry by five, so they thought there was something wrong with
him. But my brother is just the type of person who likes to be cautious
and takes things all in his own time.
He is very much like my one year old, who is very analytical and technical
in his play style, yet very emotionally sensitive. That summer we took a
car trip and my parents were reading Last of the Mohicans aloud to us, to
pass the time on the road. My father reached a key passage in the book and
then passed it to my brother saying, "Here Neil, it's your turn to read..."
He picked it up and dove right in to the story, and has never looked back.
He is now a voracious reader and loves highly technical Science Fiction
novels. He must have devoured thousands more books than me, although I am
also an avid reader. I just can't keep up with him. He also spent four
years in the Navy as a "tech" working on the electronic and computer
systems on Viking Jets, and he now manages a retail computer software store.
Not bad, for the "poor little third grader" who couldn't read. Your son
will come around, in his own good time.
Nanci K.
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In a message dated 6/2/99 1:20:48 PM Central Daylight Time,
tn-k4of5@... writes:
<<
He is very much like my one year old, who is very analytical and technical
in his play style, yet very emotionally sensitive. >>
This would be my son, my 9 year old. His grandparents want me to push him.
:( Sigh, he's reading and reading well now, but he's not going to read In
Front of anyone for a long while.
LisaKK
tn-k4of5@... writes:
<<
He is very much like my one year old, who is very analytical and technical
in his play style, yet very emotionally sensitive. >>
This would be my son, my 9 year old. His grandparents want me to push him.
:( Sigh, he's reading and reading well now, but he's not going to read In
Front of anyone for a long while.
LisaKK
[email protected]
In a message dated 6/2/99 10:20:48 AM PST, tn-k4of5@... writes:
<< He is very much like my one year old, who is very analytical and technical
in his play style, yet very emotionally sensitive. >>
This is EXACTLY my son! I am pursuing the reading "lessons" (for lack of a
word) at his request. He gets so frustrated not being able to read.
However, if I see it being a struggle; I plan on stepping back.
Thanks for you input:-)
Christina
<< He is very much like my one year old, who is very analytical and technical
in his play style, yet very emotionally sensitive. >>
This is EXACTLY my son! I am pursuing the reading "lessons" (for lack of a
word) at his request. He gets so frustrated not being able to read.
However, if I see it being a struggle; I plan on stepping back.
Thanks for you input:-)
Christina
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My 11yo dd didn't read fluently until she was 8(I think) and the 1st book
she picked up was Little Men. She now reads everything with words on it,
including cereal boxes!!!
My 7 yo dd is starting to read but not confidently. We read as a family all
the time and I am confident that she'll be ok. My mil watched the kids the
other night (my dh and i went out ALONE for our anniversary!!!) and we
returned to Grandma "teaching" my patient child to read. Both dd's later told
us that Grandma "really didn't need to do that, but you know..." The kids
have been grilled by her while we've not been around, which makes them (and
me) uncomfortable.
Debra(in Ohio)
she picked up was Little Men. She now reads everything with words on it,
including cereal boxes!!!
My 7 yo dd is starting to read but not confidently. We read as a family all
the time and I am confident that she'll be ok. My mil watched the kids the
other night (my dh and i went out ALONE for our anniversary!!!) and we
returned to Grandma "teaching" my patient child to read. Both dd's later told
us that Grandma "really didn't need to do that, but you know..." The kids
have been grilled by her while we've not been around, which makes them (and
me) uncomfortable.
Debra(in Ohio)
Andi Kaufman
Isaac learned to read in ps but he didnt enjoy it. The funny thing he kept
telling me he couldnt read. well he can but he hates novels. This child
will pick up a chess book and read it, a lego catalog, and various other
science books or almanacs but he will not touch a novel.
Actually he once read a power rangers short novel an I almost past out. it
hasnt happened for months.
but i am content that he can read whatever he wants too.
Andi...domestic goddess and active volunteer
mom to Isaac
tl2b@...
Never Underestimate the Power of This Woman!
telling me he couldnt read. well he can but he hates novels. This child
will pick up a chess book and read it, a lego catalog, and various other
science books or almanacs but he will not touch a novel.
Actually he once read a power rangers short novel an I almost past out. it
hasnt happened for months.
but i am content that he can read whatever he wants too.
Andi...domestic goddess and active volunteer
mom to Isaac
tl2b@...
Never Underestimate the Power of This Woman!
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In a message dated 6/2/99 7:24:13 PM PST, ChrissR123@... writes:
<<
<< He is very much like my one year old, who is very analytical and technical
in his play style, yet very emotionally sensitive. >>
This is EXACTLY my son! I am pursuing the reading "lessons" (for lack of a
word) at his request. He gets so frustrated not being able to read.
However, if I see it being a struggle; I plan on stepping back.
Thanks for you input:-)
Christina
introduce one or two new sounds, and used those sounds throughout the book.
(They are small booklets, one line on each page -- about 8 pages long.) The
kids are READING immediately. They also teach the sight words... slowly
through the course....
Mary
<<
<< He is very much like my one year old, who is very analytical and technical
in his play style, yet very emotionally sensitive. >>
This is EXACTLY my son! I am pursuing the reading "lessons" (for lack of a
word) at his request. He gets so frustrated not being able to read.
However, if I see it being a struggle; I plan on stepping back.
Thanks for you input:-)
Christina
>>OK. for kids who WANT to learn to read, BOB books are awesome. They
introduce one or two new sounds, and used those sounds throughout the book.
(They are small booklets, one line on each page -- about 8 pages long.) The
kids are READING immediately. They also teach the sight words... slowly
through the course....
Mary
A.Y.
Mary, I just got these, and I'm hoping it will make our reading journey a big more
real to my son. I think the lessons were just not really reading to him.
Ann
LammiesX6@... wrote:
real to my son. I think the lessons were just not really reading to him.
Ann
LammiesX6@... wrote:
> From: LammiesX6@...
>
> In a message dated 6/2/99 7:24:13 PM PST, ChrissR123@... writes:
>
> <<
> << He is very much like my one year old, who is very analytical and technical
> in his play style, yet very emotionally sensitive. >>
>
> This is EXACTLY my son! I am pursuing the reading "lessons" (for lack of a
> word) at his request. He gets so frustrated not being able to read.
> However, if I see it being a struggle; I plan on stepping back.
>
> Thanks for you input:-)
> Christina
> >>
>
> OK. for kids who WANT to learn to read, BOB books are awesome. They
> introduce one or two new sounds, and used those sounds throughout the book.
> (They are small booklets, one line on each page -- about 8 pages long.) The
> kids are READING immediately. They also teach the sight words... slowly
> through the course....
>
> Mary
>
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In a message dated 6/3/99 10:15:08 AM EST, LammiesX6@... writes:
<< OK. for kids who WANT to learn to read, BOB books are awesome. They
introduce one or two new sounds, and used those sounds throughout the book.
(They are small booklets, one line on each page -- about 8 pages long.) The
kids are READING immediately. They also teach the sight words... slowly
through the course.... >>
Just a note to add to this, the Learning Language Arts thru Literature is
built on the Bob books, then progresses.
Teresa ; >
<< OK. for kids who WANT to learn to read, BOB books are awesome. They
introduce one or two new sounds, and used those sounds throughout the book.
(They are small booklets, one line on each page -- about 8 pages long.) The
kids are READING immediately. They also teach the sight words... slowly
through the course.... >>
Just a note to add to this, the Learning Language Arts thru Literature is
built on the Bob books, then progresses.
Teresa ; >
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In a message dated 6/3/1999 8:16:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
Buresmom@... writes:
<< My 11yo dd didn't read fluently until she was 8(I think) and the 1st book
she picked up was Little Men. >>
I've also heard that some children start reading at age 10 and then they are
reading on levels well above their peers.
Cindy
Buresmom@... writes:
<< My 11yo dd didn't read fluently until she was 8(I think) and the 1st book
she picked up was Little Men. >>
I've also heard that some children start reading at age 10 and then they are
reading on levels well above their peers.
Cindy
::she just is::
Cindy said:
I've also heard that some children start reading at age 10 and then they are
reading on levels well above their peers.
I think reading is a pretty easy thing to learn when you're motivated. A lot
of children learn to read by themselves -- because they feel the need to
understand the communication of words. To understand something. Learning to
read is like learning to do HTML, programming, music notes, etc. Learning to
know something -- to get something done.
I sort of feel like I'm preaching to the converted here *smile*, but I
thought I'd add my 2 cents. ~Eryn
==
"I dreamed I was a butterfly, flitting around in the sky;
then I awoke. Now I wonder: Am I a man who dreamt of
being a butterfuly, or am I a butterfly dreaming that I am
a man?" - Chuang Tsu
http://www.camenaworks.com/Eryn/
#24591173 ::she just is::
AIM :: Opal Fayre
I've also heard that some children start reading at age 10 and then they are
reading on levels well above their peers.
I think reading is a pretty easy thing to learn when you're motivated. A lot
of children learn to read by themselves -- because they feel the need to
understand the communication of words. To understand something. Learning to
read is like learning to do HTML, programming, music notes, etc. Learning to
know something -- to get something done.
I sort of feel like I'm preaching to the converted here *smile*, but I
thought I'd add my 2 cents. ~Eryn
==
"I dreamed I was a butterfly, flitting around in the sky;
then I awoke. Now I wonder: Am I a man who dreamt of
being a butterfuly, or am I a butterfly dreaming that I am
a man?" - Chuang Tsu
http://www.camenaworks.com/Eryn/
#24591173 ::she just is::
AIM :: Opal Fayre
[email protected]
In a message dated 6/3/99 7:16:22 AM Central Daylight Time, Buresmom@...
writes:
<< Grandma "really didn't need to do that, but you know..." The kids
have been grilled by her while we've not been around, which makes them (and
me) uncomfortable. >>
Debra,
This is the same think my parents do! I wish I knew how to handle it.
Nothing I have tried has worked yet, although our relationship is more
strained than it used to be. My parents seem to be digging in their heels
(they say they have the best for my children as their intentions!). If you
learn of any magic answer, please let me know.
Tami in IN
writes:
<< Grandma "really didn't need to do that, but you know..." The kids
have been grilled by her while we've not been around, which makes them (and
me) uncomfortable. >>
Debra,
This is the same think my parents do! I wish I knew how to handle it.
Nothing I have tried has worked yet, although our relationship is more
strained than it used to be. My parents seem to be digging in their heels
(they say they have the best for my children as their intentions!). If you
learn of any magic answer, please let me know.
Tami in IN
[email protected]
In a message dated 6/3/1999 3:45:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
OmegaMolecule@... writes:
<< I think reading is a pretty easy thing to learn when you're motivated. A
lot
of children learn to read by themselves -- because they feel the need to
understand the communication of words. To understand something. Learning to
read is like learning to do HTML, programming, music notes, etc. Learning to
know something -- to get something done. >>
It IS easy when you are motivated and when you are ready. My precious 8yo
(whom I seem to talk about quite a bit :o)) taught herself to read at the
tender age of 4. She has been reading chapter books since she was 5. The only
thing I did was read constantly out loud, and she got it. My darling 6yo has
finally caught on to reading in the past few weeks. She has just not been
interested in learning to read or write but something has finally 'clicked'
and she gets it. The only thing I have done with her is constantly read out
loud.
When your child is ready, no matter what age he/she may be, they will 'get
it'. I love watching the girls learn new things. One day things click and
they say "Oh yeah, this is what it is all about!" The best thing is that it
happens in their own time and when they are ready, not when a teacher or
curriculum says they have to be.
Marti in Wa
OmegaMolecule@... writes:
<< I think reading is a pretty easy thing to learn when you're motivated. A
lot
of children learn to read by themselves -- because they feel the need to
understand the communication of words. To understand something. Learning to
read is like learning to do HTML, programming, music notes, etc. Learning to
know something -- to get something done. >>
It IS easy when you are motivated and when you are ready. My precious 8yo
(whom I seem to talk about quite a bit :o)) taught herself to read at the
tender age of 4. She has been reading chapter books since she was 5. The only
thing I did was read constantly out loud, and she got it. My darling 6yo has
finally caught on to reading in the past few weeks. She has just not been
interested in learning to read or write but something has finally 'clicked'
and she gets it. The only thing I have done with her is constantly read out
loud.
When your child is ready, no matter what age he/she may be, they will 'get
it'. I love watching the girls learn new things. One day things click and
they say "Oh yeah, this is what it is all about!" The best thing is that it
happens in their own time and when they are ready, not when a teacher or
curriculum says they have to be.
Marti in Wa
[email protected]
In a message dated 6/3/99 8:41:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
FreeSchool@... writes:
<<
Debra,
This is the same think my parents do! I wish I knew how to handle it.
Nothing I have tried has worked yet, although our relationship is more
strained than it used to be. My parents seem to be digging in their heels
(they say they have the best for my children as their intentions!). If you
learn of any magic answer, please let me know. >>
No magic, here, Tami, but we just keep plugging along. In my heart of hearts
_I_ know my kids are fine, great even, but when I'm at a low point, it's hard
to keep things in perspective.
I think that parents and other significants others _do_ want the best for our
kids--we just differ on what that means. We are mostly all products of a
traditional ed. system, our parents included, and re-defining just what
education means isn't easy for them . I go out of my way to share with my
inlaws the great things our kids do. We've invited them to our events
including our Art Show and a Science Fair we participated in--we try to drive
home the point that the kids are doing these things because they _want_ to do
them.
Right now my 11 yo dd is working on her portfolio(our assessment is next
Wed.),;she's practiced her fiddle, and has done some of her 4H projects--and
it's 10:00am!!! Is it like this every day? Of course not. But that's ok.
Debra
FreeSchool@... writes:
<<
Debra,
This is the same think my parents do! I wish I knew how to handle it.
Nothing I have tried has worked yet, although our relationship is more
strained than it used to be. My parents seem to be digging in their heels
(they say they have the best for my children as their intentions!). If you
learn of any magic answer, please let me know. >>
No magic, here, Tami, but we just keep plugging along. In my heart of hearts
_I_ know my kids are fine, great even, but when I'm at a low point, it's hard
to keep things in perspective.
I think that parents and other significants others _do_ want the best for our
kids--we just differ on what that means. We are mostly all products of a
traditional ed. system, our parents included, and re-defining just what
education means isn't easy for them . I go out of my way to share with my
inlaws the great things our kids do. We've invited them to our events
including our Art Show and a Science Fair we participated in--we try to drive
home the point that the kids are doing these things because they _want_ to do
them.
Right now my 11 yo dd is working on her portfolio(our assessment is next
Wed.),;she's practiced her fiddle, and has done some of her 4H projects--and
it's 10:00am!!! Is it like this every day? Of course not. But that's ok.
Debra
[email protected]
In a message dated 6/4/99 9:05:00 AM Central Daylight Time, Buresmom@...
writes:
<< We are mostly all products of a
traditional ed. system, our parents included, and re-defining just what
education means isn't easy for them . I go out of my way to share with my
inlaws the great things our kids do. >>
Debra,
I think that is great. I am hoping that eventually my parents will
accept what we do.
I have tried to show them what we do, and I have tried to get them to read
some books on the subject, so that they understand where I am coming from.
Right now, they just refuse to read anything, and they say that they believe
in the public school system. They agree that something is wrong, but they
say it is just the violence, the absence of teachers being able to spank the
kids, the noninvolvement of the parents, and the "certain" things they are
having to teach in the schools now. However, they still think that the way
kids are taught in the public school system is right. They get so defensive
about it, that they don't even want to accept that there may be a better way
for kids to learn. Right now, I am not pushing the issue, I am just hoping
that in a few years, they will see the results with my kids.
Tami IN
writes:
<< We are mostly all products of a
traditional ed. system, our parents included, and re-defining just what
education means isn't easy for them . I go out of my way to share with my
inlaws the great things our kids do. >>
Debra,
I think that is great. I am hoping that eventually my parents will
accept what we do.
I have tried to show them what we do, and I have tried to get them to read
some books on the subject, so that they understand where I am coming from.
Right now, they just refuse to read anything, and they say that they believe
in the public school system. They agree that something is wrong, but they
say it is just the violence, the absence of teachers being able to spank the
kids, the noninvolvement of the parents, and the "certain" things they are
having to teach in the schools now. However, they still think that the way
kids are taught in the public school system is right. They get so defensive
about it, that they don't even want to accept that there may be a better way
for kids to learn. Right now, I am not pushing the issue, I am just hoping
that in a few years, they will see the results with my kids.
Tami IN