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<<Just last night she complained that it took her so long to read
something (Harry Potter)>>
not to compare, but dd of mine cannot yet do the much simpler books than
harry! tabitha is really reading, just working on improving! dd is not
"really reading" yet... but inches thru lets say the level just above go,
dog go. so that is where her frustration comes from. and i can see that she
does have it harder than others, but i dont yet have any indication that it
is something more than just a slow progress. anyone have ld indicators that
i should rule out? would hate to think that i could be making it a LOT more
easy for her and am not....
tia,
erin

Valerie

<<Just last night she complained that it took her so long to read
something (Harry Potter)>>
not to compare, but dd of mine cannot yet do the much simpler books than
harry! tabitha is really reading, just working on improving! dd is not
"really reading" yet... but inches thru lets say the level just above go,
dog go. so that is where her frustration comes from. and i can see that
she
does have it harder than others, but i dont yet have any indication that it
is something more than just a slow progress. anyone have ld indicators that
i should rule out? would hate to think that i could be making it a LOT more
easy for her and am not....
tia,
erin

Hi Erin,

Here I am again with no practical advice, just encouragement. Tabitha is
only re-reading a Harry Potter book that we already read aloud. She'd never
tackle a new one on her own. And her first book she ever read aloud, very
slowly and determinedly, was "Go Dog Go". How's that for coincidence?

This may have (in our case at least) something to do with her being in her
sister's shadow. (I'll just tie the other topic in here) With Cristina it
was so natural for her to read. With Tabitha she seems to need help. IMO,
Tabitha is more "normal". I see nothing wrong with teaching phonics to
someone who really wants to read and isn't getting it. But the most
important thing is reading aloud. I like Tabitha to sit next to me so she
can see what I'm reading. Everyone's different....maybe Lynde is more
physical (kinesthetic) or auditory or whatever...rather than visual in her
learning.
What's the name of that book that describes the 7 different ways of
learning?

I don't know about the LD stuff. Just being a slow reader at age 8 is no
big deal, even if she is a girl. Have you ruled out vision problems?

As for living in her sister's shadow <sigh>...this is the bane of Tabitha's
existence. Whatever Tabitha does well, Cristina did it better and did it
first. I keep looking for some quality that I can encourage, but for all
their differences, they excel at the same things (art, ballet, drama). What
can I do? I'm not going to discourage either of them from doing something
they love just because the other one does it, too. I just try to cheer them
both on.

My computer is trying to crash again....Valerie

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I have a question about learning disablities. We are a big family, 5
boys ages 3 to 16, and for a few years now, I have felt that my now 8 yr old
has some kind of learning disabilities. He seems to have a really hard time
reasoning on things, responding in ways that don't make much sense. He
seemed to want to learn to read so we used the "Teach Your Child to Read in
100 Easy Lessons" book, a phonics style approach, and he knows letter sounds
but he can't seem to grasp that they blend together, like F-U-N becoming
"fun," even though we tell him the words.
I don't know if this is at all relevant but when he was born, he got
pneumonia from swallowing meconium and had to be in the hospital for a week
with oxygen. I didn't notice him being slower in anything until maybe age 3
when he still didn't talk much or very clearly but my kids were all late
talkers, going from hardly talking at all to talking talking in long
sentences with surprisingly big words. If it was just the reading, I
wouldn't be concerned but it's that we can't carry on much of a conversation
with him because he doesn't respond logically. I can ask him where
something is and his answer will make sense but on more complex things, he
doesn't make sense.
I am wondering if there is some approach that would help. One of my
friends said we should just put him in a special ed. class at school but
we're committed to learning at home and anyway, my mom works as a special ed.
aide part time and I'm not impressed with what I've heard about their
approaches. I don't want to overreact to this situation and he is a happy
person, but I'm wondering if someone has experience with this and could
recommend ideas, books, whatever.

Thanks,

Lucy

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In a message dated 9/15/2000 9:07:14 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
LASaliger@... writes:

> I don't want to overreact to this situation and he is a happy
> person, but I'm wondering if someone has experience with this and could
> recommend ideas, books, whatever.

I haven't any personal experience. Just wanted to commend your general
attitude. I'm sure that you will find the path that is best for ds. That is
evident in your post. Have confidence in what you are doing.

If it helps any, all kids are 'slow learners' in some area. (My 12 yr old
only just learned to ride his bike, but he's been doing complicated math
problems for some time now, for instance.) Maybe he's simply stronger in an
area that hasn't yet been discovered. Of course, if there is a disability,
you'll want to help him achieve the most he can. But, hey, you do the very
same thing for all of your children, right?

I hope you find answers that contain more actual help. In the mean time,
here's a pat on the back <pat, pat, pat>

Eiraul

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In a message dated 9/15/00 9:18:13 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
braunville@... writes:

<< Maybe he's simply stronger in an
area that hasn't yet been discovered. >>

Thanks for all that you said, Eiraul, and especially for mentioning
this. He does seem to have more of a physical aptitude...learned to
rollerblade easily, loves jumping around and doing things that look like
gymnastics, learned to ride his bike easily.
I have thought about whether it's just a verbal thing with him but I
think it's more than that. This morning, he and my 3 yr old were playing
with the Brio trains and he still can't figure out how to put the tracks
together to make any kind of a simple setup, even a circle. I know this
probably sounds like I'm comparing him in a negative way but I don't even say
anything about it...it's just something I can't help noticing. I don't know
what approach to take because the conventional one seems to be that I need to
"work with him" and I don't want a situation where I'm trying to make him
learn something and he's irritated and bored. So I just let him go his own
way so far but I'm wondering if with a learning disabled child, I should
expose him to things a little more directly. Anyway, thanks again for your
response!

Lucy

LisaKK

I'm comparing him in a negative way but I don't even say
>anything about it...it's just something I can't help noticing. I don't
know
>what approach to take because the conventional one seems to be that I need
to
>"work with him" and I don't want a situation where I'm trying to make him
>learn something and he's irritated and bored. So I just let him go his own
>way so far but I'm wondering if with a learning disabled child, I should
>expose him to things a little more directly. Anyway, thanks again for your
>response!

I don't think you are being negative, just making sure you are meeting his
needs. And yes, I do think that some special needs children need things
placed directly in their path along with some gentle encouragment to attempt
some skills. There's a fine line between helping the world open up for our
children and forcing them to see the world through our eyes.

I have two very different sons. One who is very spatially oriented and one
who is not......but the one who is not can make a cirlce with Brio trains. I
would be watching for ways I could help increase his skills.

LisaKK

aworthen

----- Original Message -----
From: <LASaliger@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 12:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] learning disability indicators?


>
Hi Lucy,
I can sympathize. My 7 yo dd has an ld called processing speed disorder and
she is dyslexic and most likely ADD. The best advice I can offer is Do Not
put your ds in a special ed. class. IMHO, the best place for kids with lds
is home sweet home. You might want to read The Missing Piece Meets the Big
O, Driven to Distraction, and Answers to Distraction. A lot of people don't
agree with CORE evaluations, but I found that knowing what specific lds my
dd had helped me learn to work with her better. Good Luck. I hope I was some
help. I know how frustrating it can be. BTW my dd was also in the NICU for
aspirating meuconium, unfortunatly I don't think we can blame that. <Big
Sigh>

Amy
Mom to Samantha, Dana, and Casey
The World Is Our Classroom

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Hi Amy,
Thanks for sharing your experience and ideas. Is that a book I can
probably find at the library? I'd like to start doing some reading on this.

Lucy

aworthen

----- Original Message -----
From: <LASaliger@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2000 1:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] learning disability indicators?


>
> Hi Amy,
> Thanks for sharing your experience and ideas. Is that a book I can
> probably find at the library? I'd like to start doing some reading on
this.
>


I think so. I'll try and get a list of more books too.

Amy
Mom to Samantha, Dana, and Casey
The World Is Our Classroom

LisaKK

Lucy, I'm going through my old saved mail and just wanted to ask if our
discussion here helped? Do you have any new insights for those us dealing
with children who might need more?

LisaKK
----- Original Message -----
From: <LASaliger@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] learning disability indicators?


>
> I have a question about learning disablities. We are a big family, 5
> boys ages 3 to 16, and for a few years now, I have felt that my now 8 yr
old
> has some kind of learning disabilities. He seems to have a really hard
time
> reasoning on things, responding in ways that don't make much sense. He
> seemed to want to learn to read so we used the "Teach Your Child to Read
in
> 100 Easy Lessons" book, a phonics style approach, and he knows letter
sounds
> but he can't seem to grasp that they blend together, like F-U-N becoming
> "fun," even though we tell him the words.
> I don't know if this is at all relevant but when he was born, he got
> pneumonia from swallowing meconium and had to be in the hospital for a
week
> with oxygen. I didn't notice him being slower in anything until maybe age
3
> when he still didn't talk much or very clearly but my kids were all late
> talkers, going from hardly talking at all to talking talking in long
> sentences with surprisingly big words. If it was just the reading, I
> wouldn't be concerned but it's that we can't carry on much of a
conversation
> with him because he doesn't respond logically. I can ask him where
> something is and his answer will make sense but on more complex things, he
> doesn't make sense.
> I am wondering if there is some approach that would help. One of my
> friends said we should just put him in a special ed. class at school but
> we're committed to learning at home and anyway, my mom works as a special
ed.
> aide part time and I'm not impressed with what I've heard about their
> approaches. I don't want to overreact to this situation and he is a happy
> person, but I'm wondering if someone has experience with this and could
> recommend ideas, books, whatever.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lucy
>
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