Sonia Ulan

Thanks for that, Bonnie.

My 15 year old neutered male is peeing all over the house too...has for
the last 8 years or more. He's on a special diet for the crystals in
his urinary tract, but if anyone had ideas on how to manage the unruly
peeing/spraying I'm all ears...Please help! We seem to have tried
everything we can think of. Our two cats each have their own box and
we've even tried different "styles" to see if a different box would help
him. It hasn't. Different litters haven't helped either. (Did I
mention how ultra- intelligent our cat is? He does tricks! Will sit
and shake his paw or will jump over a stick on command...we've been
meaning to get him on David Letterman or something!)

I apologize to those who will lament this is "not an unschooling issue",
but since my family is an unschooling family we are here to learn (all
things).


Sonia
Saskatoon, SK.



Bonnie Painter wrote:
>
>
> Our males cats have been neutered at 7 months. I don't think I will ever
> own a male cat again, since they are the ones peeing all over my house (they
> get urinary tract infections easily). We also have 5 cats. As for the
> smell, let me know if you find anything.
>
> Bonnie - mom to 2 rowdy kids and 5 equally rowdy cats.
>
> >And does anyone know at what age a male cat can be neutered? I want to get
> >my boys taken care of before any of that territorial spraying instinct
> >begins to manifest itself.
> >
> >AND has anyone ever tried unschooling 5 cats? :-)
> >
> >Lee
> >Momma to 8 children-Seamus Abe and Henry (homo sapien sapien), and Ishtar,
> >Tik Tok, Harry, Mustard and Cosmo (felis cattus)
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Pris [mailto:x_t_sipr@...]
> >Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2000 2:21 PM
> >To: [email protected]
> >Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] corporal punishment ...
> >
> >
> >
> >coming out of my lurking mode for a split second to say ... ***3~CHEERS***
> >for you Lynda, thanks for saying what I'm sitting here thinking ~>
> >***ohhhhhhh nooooooo, not again*** ...
> >
> >Pris ~> I'll be going back under my rock now, happy day all :)
> >WARNING: I cannot be help responsible for the above, as apparently my cats
> >have learned how to type ...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Lynda" <lurine@...>
> >To: <[email protected]>
> >Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2000 12:34 PM
> >Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Differences with DH
> >
> >
> > > Well, like a few others, I don't think that corporal punishment is an
> > > unschooling issue, it is a parenting issue and a very volitile one!
> >Also,
> > > each and ever discussion of corporal punishment on all but one
> > > home/unschooling list I belong to has gone down hill into at the least,
> >the
> > > next thing to a flame war. AND, that includes this list! So, as a
> > > courtesy to all of us who are, quite frankly, tired of the topic raising
> > > its head every 6 months or so, please keep the same subject line so we
> >can
> > > delete and get on with the business of unschooling.
> > >
> > > Lynda
> > >
> >
> >
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Lynda

One of the problems with spraying is that even though we humans think
(operative word here) that the smell is gone, it isn't to the cats. If you
sliver Dial soap in a jar of water and let it soak until it can be made
into a liquid soap, it is the best thing for removing smells! We used it
in the kennel and it stopped the "repeaters."

One way to cure spraying to to get one of those high powered squirt guns
and wait and watch. When you catch the culprit, squit him (cats HATE this)
and holler really loud, using your most alpha mommy voice "NO!" Usually a
few times and you have a cure. Of course, I've never used this on an older
cat that is set in their ways but it has worked really well with younger
cats. Works good for scratching furniture also.

Lynda

----------
> From: Sonia Ulan <sulan@...>
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom]cats
> Date: Saturday, September 02, 2000 2:46 PM
>
>
> Thanks for that, Bonnie.
>
> My 15 year old neutered male is peeing all over the house too...has for
> the last 8 years or more. He's on a special diet for the crystals in
> his urinary tract, but if anyone had ideas on how to manage the unruly
> peeing/spraying I'm all ears...Please help! We seem to have tried
> everything we can think of. Our two cats each have their own box and
> we've even tried different "styles" to see if a different box would help
> him. It hasn't. Different litters haven't helped either. (Did I
> mention how ultra- intelligent our cat is? He does tricks! Will sit
> and shake his paw or will jump over a stick on command...we've been
> meaning to get him on David Letterman or something!)
>
> I apologize to those who will lament this is "not an unschooling issue",
> but since my family is an unschooling family we are here to learn (all
> things).
>
>
> Sonia
> Saskatoon, SK.
>
>
>
> Bonnie Painter wrote:
> >
> >
> > Our males cats have been neutered at 7 months. I don't think I will
ever
> > own a male cat again, since they are the ones peeing all over my house
(they
> > get urinary tract infections easily). We also have 5 cats. As for the
> > smell, let me know if you find anything.
> >
> > Bonnie - mom to 2 rowdy kids and 5 equally rowdy cats.
> >
> > >And does anyone know at what age a male cat can be neutered? I want to
get
> > >my boys taken care of before any of that territorial spraying instinct
> > >begins to manifest itself.
> > >
> > >AND has anyone ever tried unschooling 5 cats? :-)
> > >
> > >Lee
> > >Momma to 8 children-Seamus Abe and Henry (homo sapien sapien), and
Ishtar,
> > >Tik Tok, Harry, Mustard and Cosmo (felis cattus)
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Pris [mailto:x_t_sipr@...]
> > >Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2000 2:21 PM
> > >To: [email protected]
> > >Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] corporal punishment ...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >coming out of my lurking mode for a split second to say ...
***3~CHEERS***
> > >for you Lynda, thanks for saying what I'm sitting here thinking ~>
> > >***ohhhhhhh nooooooo, not again*** ...
> > >
> > >Pris ~> I'll be going back under my rock now, happy day all :)
> > >WARNING: I cannot be help responsible for the above, as apparently my
cats
> > >have learned how to type ...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Lynda" <lurine@...>
> > >To: <[email protected]>
> > >Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2000 12:34 PM
> > >Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Differences with DH
> > >
> > >
> > > > Well, like a few others, I don't think that corporal punishment is
an
> > > > unschooling issue, it is a parenting issue and a very volitile one!
> > >Also,
> > > > each and ever discussion of corporal punishment on all but one
> > > > home/unschooling list I belong to has gone down hill into at the
least,
> > >the
> > > > next thing to a flame war. AND, that includes this list! So, as a
> > > > courtesy to all of us who are, quite frankly, tired of the topic
raising
> > > > its head every 6 months or so, please keep the same subject line so
we
> > >can
> > > > delete and get on with the business of unschooling.
> > > >
> > > > Lynda
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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Sonia Ulan

Thanks for the tips Lynda! I haven't heard about the miracle that is
DIAL soap, before!

Sonia



Lynda wrote:
>
>
> One of the problems with spraying is that even though we humans think
> (operative word here) that the smell is gone, it isn't to the cats. If you
> sliver Dial soap in a jar of water and let it soak until it can be made
> into a liquid soap, it is the best thing for removing smells! We used it
> in the kennel and it stopped the "repeaters."
>
> One way to cure spraying to to get one of those high powered squirt guns
> and wait and watch. When you catch the culprit, squit him (cats HATE this)
> and holler really loud, using your most alpha mommy voice "NO!" Usually a
> few times and you have a cure. Of course, I've never used this on an older
> cat that is set in their ways but it has worked really well with younger
> cats. Works good for scratching furniture also.
>
> Lynda
>
> ----------
> > From: Sonia Ulan <sulan@...>
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom]cats
> > Date: Saturday, September 02, 2000 2:46 PM
> >
> >
> > Thanks for that, Bonnie.
> >
> > My 15 year old neutered male is peeing all over the house too...has for
> > the last 8 years or more. He's on a special diet for the crystals in
> > his urinary tract, but if anyone had ideas on how to manage the unruly
> > peeing/spraying I'm all ears...Please help! We seem to have tried
> > everything we can think of. Our two cats each have their own box and
> > we've even tried different "styles" to see if a different box would help
> > him. It hasn't. Different litters haven't helped either. (Did I
> > mention how ultra- intelligent our cat is? He does tricks! Will sit
> > and shake his paw or will jump over a stick on command...we've been
> > meaning to get him on David Letterman or something!)
> >
> > I apologize to those who will lament this is "not an unschooling issue",
> > but since my family is an unschooling family we are here to learn (all
> > things).
> >
> >
> > Sonia
> > Saskatoon, SK.
> >
> >
> >
> > Bonnie Painter wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Our males cats have been neutered at 7 months. I don't think I will
> ever
> > > own a male cat again, since they are the ones peeing all over my house
> (they
> > > get urinary tract infections easily). We also have 5 cats. As for the
> > > smell, let me know if you find anything.
> > >
> > > Bonnie - mom to 2 rowdy kids and 5 equally rowdy cats.
> > >
> > > >And does anyone know at what age a male cat can be neutered? I want to
> get
> > > >my boys taken care of before any of that territorial spraying instinct
> > > >begins to manifest itself.
> > > >
> > > >AND has anyone ever tried unschooling 5 cats? :-)
> > > >
> > > >Lee
> > > >Momma to 8 children-Seamus Abe and Henry (homo sapien sapien), and
> Ishtar,
> > > >Tik Tok, Harry, Mustard and Cosmo (felis cattus)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: Pris [mailto:x_t_sipr@...]
> > > >Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2000 2:21 PM
> > > >To: [email protected]
> > > >Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] corporal punishment ...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >coming out of my lurking mode for a split second to say ...
> ***3~CHEERS***
> > > >for you Lynda, thanks for saying what I'm sitting here thinking ~>
> > > >***ohhhhhhh nooooooo, not again*** ...
> > > >
> > > >Pris ~> I'll be going back under my rock now, happy day all :)
> > > >WARNING: I cannot be help responsible for the above, as apparently my
> cats
> > > >have learned how to type ...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "Lynda" <lurine@...>
> > > >To: <[email protected]>
> > > >Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2000 12:34 PM
> > > >Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Differences with DH
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Well, like a few others, I don't think that corporal punishment is
> an
> > > > > unschooling issue, it is a parenting issue and a very volitile one!
> > > >Also,
> > > > > each and ever discussion of corporal punishment on all but one
> > > > > home/unschooling list I belong to has gone down hill into at the
> least,
> > > >the
> > > > > next thing to a flame war. AND, that includes this list! So, as a
> > > > > courtesy to all of us who are, quite frankly, tired of the topic
> raising
> > > > > its head every 6 months or so, please keep the same subject line so
> we
> > > >can
> > > > > delete and get on with the business of unschooling.
> > > > >
> > > > > Lynda
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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Tracy Oldfield

Oh, I forgot to mention in my previous post that we don't have a
litter tray, just a cat-flap and some cheesed off neighbours, but
hey, they'll live. When we did have a litter-tray, we found that
Arnie kicked all the cat-lit out, so we really needed one with a top,
for privacy, too. We had more of a problem with Tribble's talent
for hunting. But I digress, as usual.

Tracy