Our Bodies - what happens to a girl
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<<Instead of focusing on abortion as having been the answer,
perhaps the focus should be on preventing pregnancy in the first place.
Clearly, that woman had major problems. >>
For me this is the crux of the problem... I can only talk about America and
England, two countries I've grown up in and as long as girls/women are
sexualized and encouraged to look for men as the answer to anything and
everything and pregnancy as a means of escape.. I believe abortion, abuse etc
is going to continue. So it starts with the parents... As I have seen there
are many parents who are just not involved with their kids and these would be
considered "good parents"... They have a baby in a two parent family, 6 weeks
after birth the mother goes back to work (doesn't matter which one does it)
and puts the baby in daycare from 6:30am-6pm 5 days a week... No bonding with
mother or father... But they make lots of money and isnt' that more
important? (joke).. So then the child doesn't havea connection with either of
the parents really, maybe a superficial one, and then off the go to public
school where they get sucked into the crowd and find a niche with other girls
that have been through a similar disconnected experience with their parents.
These girls are all looking for someone to love them and need them and want
them... In all of this the media and society in general is telling them how
to look (thin and beautiful) and how to act (being in love with a boy is the
only way to be). So it's not surprising when at 15 years old they end up
pregnant... Because of their real disconnection with anything outside
themselves, it's easy to see how it's very easy for them to flush a baby down
the toilet, whether that's through abortion or actually having the baby and
killing it. It makes complete logical sense given their upbringing...
Alternatively they wait until they are 18, get married to some looser
(because who would have taught them what a good man, husband looks like, if
their parents are not available) and then get pregnant, only to find out that
having a baby is the toughest thing that will every happen and a much harder
job than going to a 9-5 outside job.
Just my opinion of a scenario that's happening all over the westernized
world. And we are suppose to be the ones that have the higher intelligence
levels.....
Dawn F
perhaps the focus should be on preventing pregnancy in the first place.
Clearly, that woman had major problems. >>
For me this is the crux of the problem... I can only talk about America and
England, two countries I've grown up in and as long as girls/women are
sexualized and encouraged to look for men as the answer to anything and
everything and pregnancy as a means of escape.. I believe abortion, abuse etc
is going to continue. So it starts with the parents... As I have seen there
are many parents who are just not involved with their kids and these would be
considered "good parents"... They have a baby in a two parent family, 6 weeks
after birth the mother goes back to work (doesn't matter which one does it)
and puts the baby in daycare from 6:30am-6pm 5 days a week... No bonding with
mother or father... But they make lots of money and isnt' that more
important? (joke).. So then the child doesn't havea connection with either of
the parents really, maybe a superficial one, and then off the go to public
school where they get sucked into the crowd and find a niche with other girls
that have been through a similar disconnected experience with their parents.
These girls are all looking for someone to love them and need them and want
them... In all of this the media and society in general is telling them how
to look (thin and beautiful) and how to act (being in love with a boy is the
only way to be). So it's not surprising when at 15 years old they end up
pregnant... Because of their real disconnection with anything outside
themselves, it's easy to see how it's very easy for them to flush a baby down
the toilet, whether that's through abortion or actually having the baby and
killing it. It makes complete logical sense given their upbringing...
Alternatively they wait until they are 18, get married to some looser
(because who would have taught them what a good man, husband looks like, if
their parents are not available) and then get pregnant, only to find out that
having a baby is the toughest thing that will every happen and a much harder
job than going to a 9-5 outside job.
Just my opinion of a scenario that's happening all over the westernized
world. And we are suppose to be the ones that have the higher intelligence
levels.....
Dawn F
Sue
On 18 Aug 2000, at 9:36, NumoAstro@... wrote:
It is being so disconected from family that sends girls off searching
for love, I'm sure that at 15 I would have said yes to the first guy
that asked..... I was desperately in search of someone to care for
me. I can see that now, but then I was sure I was in love forever,
fortunately my love was a good person. However he wasn't really
the right person for me, we were married for 26 years and had 9
children, he is a good person, just not for me, we are too different
in our values. At first the children held us together, but eventually
they drove us apart, our different attitudes to child rearing and a few
other issues. I can not for a second regret those 26 years, my
children are wonderful people who I love dearly, however my life
would have been better if I had the belief in myself that I was a
lovable person and that it would be better to wait and find someone
who I had more in comon with, where we wanted to live, our
thoughts on child rearing, our thoughts on school, government etc.
In raising strong confident daughters who know they are loved and
valued we give them a better chance at a good life.... my oldest is
a carreer woman who when she turns 25 soon will have been
working for 10 years, she quit school and got a job the second she
could as she believed that she was wasting her time in school.
I always let her know that she could do anything that she put her
mind to and that her education etc were her descision. I hope I
am able to do as well with the little ones, from my outspoken
almost 12 year old I think I am on the right track with her.
Sue
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> Alternatively they wait until they are 18, get married to some looserWell said Dawn,
> (because who would have taught them what a good man, husband looks like, if
> their parents are not available) and then get pregnant, only to find out that
> having a baby is the toughest thing that will every happen and a much harder
> job than going to a 9-5 outside job.
>
> Just my opinion of a scenario that's happening all over the westernized
> world. And we are suppose to be the ones that have the higher intelligence
> levels.....
>
> Dawn F
It is being so disconected from family that sends girls off searching
for love, I'm sure that at 15 I would have said yes to the first guy
that asked..... I was desperately in search of someone to care for
me. I can see that now, but then I was sure I was in love forever,
fortunately my love was a good person. However he wasn't really
the right person for me, we were married for 26 years and had 9
children, he is a good person, just not for me, we are too different
in our values. At first the children held us together, but eventually
they drove us apart, our different attitudes to child rearing and a few
other issues. I can not for a second regret those 26 years, my
children are wonderful people who I love dearly, however my life
would have been better if I had the belief in myself that I was a
lovable person and that it would be better to wait and find someone
who I had more in comon with, where we wanted to live, our
thoughts on child rearing, our thoughts on school, government etc.
In raising strong confident daughters who know they are loved and
valued we give them a better chance at a good life.... my oldest is
a carreer woman who when she turns 25 soon will have been
working for 10 years, she quit school and got a job the second she
could as she believed that she was wasting her time in school.
I always let her know that she could do anything that she put her
mind to and that her education etc were her descision. I hope I
am able to do as well with the little ones, from my outspoken
almost 12 year old I think I am on the right track with her.
Sue
The Winona Farm in Minnesota Welcomes Unschoolers All Year Round
My website: http://members.xoom.com/sue_m_e
Farm website: http://members.xoom.com/winfarm/
Farm newsletter: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe/Winonafarm
"To believe in something, and not to live it,
is to be dishonest." -Mahatma Gandhi