Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Father's who want control/Meshell
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In a message dated 8/4/00 7:11:04 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
Homeschooling@... writes:
<< My home is a Christian home, so as the head of our household, my husband
makes the final decision on everything, and that is the way God designed
marriage. I said nothing to invite such a flame and if this is what I have
to look forward to here, I will gladly leave. >>
Meshell,
Don't sweat it. It's just one person's opinion, which could have been
expressed with a bit more tact. One thing you'll quickly learn here and on
other lists, is that there will always be an occasional post which will
offend you, especially when one has opinions and values based in a religious
not share by everyone. I see the same thing on lists where every member is
supposedly of the same religious beliefs. A few words of advice:
Delete....Delete....Delete.
candice
Homeschooling@... writes:
<< My home is a Christian home, so as the head of our household, my husband
makes the final decision on everything, and that is the way God designed
marriage. I said nothing to invite such a flame and if this is what I have
to look forward to here, I will gladly leave. >>
Meshell,
Don't sweat it. It's just one person's opinion, which could have been
expressed with a bit more tact. One thing you'll quickly learn here and on
other lists, is that there will always be an occasional post which will
offend you, especially when one has opinions and values based in a religious
not share by everyone. I see the same thing on lists where every member is
supposedly of the same religious beliefs. A few words of advice:
Delete....Delete....Delete.
candice
[email protected]
Well, it didn't seem like a flame to me either... just someone's valid
opinion ... and yes, there will always be an occasional post that offends...
but i personally wouldn't delete posts because i thought someone had a
different opinion than me... what if the next post they wrote was filled with
info i needed... or some idea that made me change my opinion??? i'd be
stifling myself.... so how do you tell what to delete?
jeanne
<< Meshell,
Don't sweat it. It's just one person's opinion, which could have been
expressed with a bit more tact. One thing you'll quickly learn here and on
other lists, is that there will always be an occasional post which will
offend you, especially when one has opinions and values based in a religious
not share by everyone. I see the same thing on lists where every member is
supposedly of the same religious beliefs. A few words of advice:
Delete....Delete....Delete.
candice >>
opinion ... and yes, there will always be an occasional post that offends...
but i personally wouldn't delete posts because i thought someone had a
different opinion than me... what if the next post they wrote was filled with
info i needed... or some idea that made me change my opinion??? i'd be
stifling myself.... so how do you tell what to delete?
jeanne
<< Meshell,
Don't sweat it. It's just one person's opinion, which could have been
expressed with a bit more tact. One thing you'll quickly learn here and on
other lists, is that there will always be an occasional post which will
offend you, especially when one has opinions and values based in a religious
not share by everyone. I see the same thing on lists where every member is
supposedly of the same religious beliefs. A few words of advice:
Delete....Delete....Delete.
candice >>
cathie
--- In [email protected], Whyner@a... wrote:
Cathie
> but i personally wouldn't delete posts because i thought someonehad a
> different opinion than me... what if the next post they wrote wasfilled with
> info i needed... or some idea that made me change my opinion??? i'dbe
> stifling myself.... so how do you tell what to delete?Sounds like you are open minded enough to delete after you read!
>
> jeanne
Cathie
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In a message dated 8/4/00 1:41:06 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Whyner@...
writes:
<< Well, it didn't seem like a flame to me either... just someone's valid
opinion ... and yes, there will always be an occasional post that offends...
but i personally wouldn't delete posts because i thought someone had a
different opinion than me... what if the next post they wrote was filled
with
info i needed... or some idea that made me change my opinion??? i'd be
stifling myself.... so how do you tell what to delete?
different things. I am not often receptive to a message, however good it may
be, when it is expressed in a manner I find offensive. Here's an example. In
college, I was constantly harassed by a couple of male friends who would
literally yell at me whenever I would wear noticeable make-up. They insisted
I looked much better without it and that I was just buying into someone
else's idea of what I should look like, and doing myself a disservice in the
process. I eventually came to agree with them on several points. However at
the time I mentally deleted their message because it was communicated in a
way I found demeaning.
I would not have been offended by that particular post either, but it's not
my place to tell someone else what they should find offensive. I don't delete
opinions that are simply different from mine. I rather enjoy reading them.
There is even one particular woman on a list I am on who constantly says
things offensive to me as a person of color, but she is so unbelievably funny
I have to read all her posts and take her attitude in stride. Instead of
starting or participating in a flame war, I often delete things that are
offensive on a personal level, after I've read them, and don't look back. I
rarely delete without reading, unless the subject is obviously not of
interest. I don't worry that there will be some lone life-changing post out
there that I'll miss either.
candice
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Hold fast to dreams
For if dreams die
Life is a broken-winged bird
That cannot fly.
-Langston Hughes
writes:
<< Well, it didn't seem like a flame to me either... just someone's valid
opinion ... and yes, there will always be an occasional post that offends...
but i personally wouldn't delete posts because i thought someone had a
different opinion than me... what if the next post they wrote was filled
with
info i needed... or some idea that made me change my opinion??? i'd be
stifling myself.... so how do you tell what to delete?
>>Unfortunately, it was offensive to Meshell. Different people are offended by
different things. I am not often receptive to a message, however good it may
be, when it is expressed in a manner I find offensive. Here's an example. In
college, I was constantly harassed by a couple of male friends who would
literally yell at me whenever I would wear noticeable make-up. They insisted
I looked much better without it and that I was just buying into someone
else's idea of what I should look like, and doing myself a disservice in the
process. I eventually came to agree with them on several points. However at
the time I mentally deleted their message because it was communicated in a
way I found demeaning.
I would not have been offended by that particular post either, but it's not
my place to tell someone else what they should find offensive. I don't delete
opinions that are simply different from mine. I rather enjoy reading them.
There is even one particular woman on a list I am on who constantly says
things offensive to me as a person of color, but she is so unbelievably funny
I have to read all her posts and take her attitude in stride. Instead of
starting or participating in a flame war, I often delete things that are
offensive on a personal level, after I've read them, and don't look back. I
rarely delete without reading, unless the subject is obviously not of
interest. I don't worry that there will be some lone life-changing post out
there that I'll miss either.
candice
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Hold fast to dreams
For if dreams die
Life is a broken-winged bird
That cannot fly.
-Langston Hughes
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In a message dated 8/4/00 8:27:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
czuniga145@... writes:
<< I would not have been offended by that particular post either, but it's
not
my place to tell someone else what they should find offensive.>>
No one here said that... it was all stated as their opinion....
<< I don't worry that there will be some lone life-changing post out
there that I'll miss either.
candice >>
life changing? well, that certainly wasn't said either... but it does
actually remind me that we are here to fill in each other's blanks in my
opinion... that's what touching each other is all about... be it information
or whatever... we are all interconnected... even on the internet... when we
"write off" others, or delete them, we are eliminating a possible chance to
fill in one of their blanks or to have one of ours filled in... in my
opinion....
jeanne
czuniga145@... writes:
<< I would not have been offended by that particular post either, but it's
not
my place to tell someone else what they should find offensive.>>
No one here said that... it was all stated as their opinion....
<< I don't worry that there will be some lone life-changing post out
there that I'll miss either.
candice >>
life changing? well, that certainly wasn't said either... but it does
actually remind me that we are here to fill in each other's blanks in my
opinion... that's what touching each other is all about... be it information
or whatever... we are all interconnected... even on the internet... when we
"write off" others, or delete them, we are eliminating a possible chance to
fill in one of their blanks or to have one of ours filled in... in my
opinion....
jeanne
-
You don't delete
it! You read it and yell and scream at the computer, make yourself feel
all better, then save it, go back, re-read it and find something good in
it! That's what I do anyway! I can always find something good in
someone's email, no matter what I believe. And yes, sometimes my opinions
have changed! Another thing I do, especially when I am writing an
emotionally charged email is to write it, save it then go back later and edit it
when I don't feel so emotional! (most of the time!)
-----Original Message-----Well, it didn't seem like a flame to me either... just someone's valid
From: Whyner@... <Whyner@...>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Date: Friday, August 04, 2000 1:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Father's who want control/Meshell
opinion ... and yes, there will always be an occasional post that offends...
but i personally wouldn't delete posts because i thought someone had a
different opinion than me... what if the next post they wrote was filled with
info i needed... or some idea that made me change my opinion??? i'd be
stifling myself.... so how do you tell what to delete?
jeanne
<< Meshell,
Don't sweat it. It's just one person's opinion, which could have been
expressed with a bit more tact. One thing you'll quickly learn here and on
other lists, is that there will always be an occasional post which will
offend you, especially when one has opinions and values based in a religious
not share by everyone. I see the same thing on lists where every member is
supposedly of the same religious beliefs. A few words of advice:
Delete....Delete....Delete.
candice >>
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In a message dated 8/5/00 1:56:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
sinclai@... writes:
<< You don't delete it! You read it and yell and scream at the computer,
make yourself feel all better, then save it, go back, re-read it and find
something good in it! That's what I do anyway! I can always find something
good in someone's email, no matter what I believe. And yes, sometimes my
opinions have changed! Another thing I do, especially when I am writing an
emotionally charged email is to write it, save it then go back later and edit
it when I don't feel so emotional! (most of the time!) >>
yea, me too... on a whole other subject, i gotta tell ya that the background
dot matrix color of your emails makes it hard for me to read the print...
nothing personal... just my own eyeball problem...
sinclai@... writes:
<< You don't delete it! You read it and yell and scream at the computer,
make yourself feel all better, then save it, go back, re-read it and find
something good in it! That's what I do anyway! I can always find something
good in someone's email, no matter what I believe. And yes, sometimes my
opinions have changed! Another thing I do, especially when I am writing an
emotionally charged email is to write it, save it then go back later and edit
it when I don't feel so emotional! (most of the time!) >>
yea, me too... on a whole other subject, i gotta tell ya that the background
dot matrix color of your emails makes it hard for me to read the print...
nothing personal... just my own eyeball problem...