Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] cows
aworthen
I've got friends who are dairy farmers. I'll ask them their take on this. I
know they due the dawn and dusk milkings, but I'm sure some of that must be
in the essence of time. It takes a long time to round up and milk 300+ cows.
The cows are free range so hearding is very time consuming. Plus they have a
lot to do in between. One would think though, to some extent that the laws
of nature would have made lactation the same for all mammals. I think the
supply and demand rule is the same.
Amy
know they due the dawn and dusk milkings, but I'm sure some of that must be
in the essence of time. It takes a long time to round up and milk 300+ cows.
The cows are free range so hearding is very time consuming. Plus they have a
lot to do in between. One would think though, to some extent that the laws
of nature would have made lactation the same for all mammals. I think the
supply and demand rule is the same.
Amy
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From: Tracy Oldfield <tracy.oldfield@...>
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Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 9:04 AM
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] cows
> This is something I've thought about, not in terms of caring for one
> myself, but would it be feasible to milk cows more often than the
> usual dawn and dusk scenario? As someone interested in
> breastfeeding and therefore lactation generally, I wonder if it would
> make more milk/ creamier milk? and whether it would be practical
> to round up the cows three times a day instead of two.
>
> Just a thought rattling round my head. I sometimes this list is
> more unschooling us grown-ups than the kids <g>
>
> Tracy
>
> On 17 Jul 2000, at 6:42, Corallyn Berger wrote:
>
> > We moved out to the country late last year. One of the
> > things I plan to do on our 6acres is to raise a beef
> > cow. 400lb is a lota meat...and much cheaper and
> > better for you. I also want to have an herb garden and
> > a veggie garden. I would like to keep a milk cow for 1
> > year just so I can say that I know how to care for a
> > milk cow. From what I have heard it is a big
> > responsability, I think the kids would enjoy it.
> > Waiting till they are a bit older and more
> > independant, though. Corallyn
> >
>
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wrote:
quite a bit. At first I didn't think it would be that
big a deal. She informed me that milking the cow must
be done no less than 2X a day and at the same time
everyday. That means if we go on vacation I would have
to find someone to come milk the cow. Also, it is a
technique that has to be learned. There is a rythm to
it. I guess it is the same as learning to hand
express. It wasn't untill my third that I figured out
how to do it without bruising myself. And yes they
would produce more milk the more you milk them but
then you have to milk them that much more. Having a
milk cow is something I want to do to have fresh milk
and learn how to make cheese and other milk products.
I don't plan to do it for much more than a year
because I want to be able to go on vacations as a
family. We have never been away with the kids like
that. We had planned at the first of the year to go to
the Schliterbon in the Austin area in Sept. and to
camp while we were there, but then I got pg. I am
always either pg or have a new baby so we have never
been away as a family on vacation. Oh well, maybe next
year. Corallyn
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> This is something I've thought about, not in termsThis is something I have talked to my mother about
> of caring for one
> myself, but would it be feasible to milk cows more
> often than the
> usual dawn and dusk scenario? As someone interested
> in
> breastfeeding and therefore lactation generally, I
> wonder if it would
> make more milk/ creamier milk? and whether it would
> be practical
> to round up the cows three times a day instead of
> two.
>
quite a bit. At first I didn't think it would be that
big a deal. She informed me that milking the cow must
be done no less than 2X a day and at the same time
everyday. That means if we go on vacation I would have
to find someone to come milk the cow. Also, it is a
technique that has to be learned. There is a rythm to
it. I guess it is the same as learning to hand
express. It wasn't untill my third that I figured out
how to do it without bruising myself. And yes they
would produce more milk the more you milk them but
then you have to milk them that much more. Having a
milk cow is something I want to do to have fresh milk
and learn how to make cheese and other milk products.
I don't plan to do it for much more than a year
because I want to be able to go on vacations as a
family. We have never been away with the kids like
that. We had planned at the first of the year to go to
the Schliterbon in the Austin area in Sept. and to
camp while we were there, but then I got pg. I am
always either pg or have a new baby so we have never
been away as a family on vacation. Oh well, maybe next
year. Corallyn
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Lynda
If you go the cow route, look for a Jersey. They are small, they have more
butter fat to their milk if you want to make cheese and butter. They are
more people friendly and usually become family pets. You can usually find
them for sale advertised as "family" cow.
You need to milk twice a day minimum for several reasons. One, they
"fill-up" on a twelve hour cycle. They are creatures of habit. They don't
care about daylight savings time or anything else. When it is the a.m.
time you choose, they will be standing there waiting for you and the same
goes for the p.m. time.
To get milk you need to raise a calf. We usually leave the calf with the
cow for the first week and then bottle feed it. A good cow will give more
milk than a calf can use. Seperate them and start the calf on pellets and
hay as soon as possible and then all the milk is yours. If you get too
much milk, that is great feed for a pig.
If you get tired of doing the milking thing, then you can usually turn a
Jersey into a nurse cow and foster calves on her every 3 to 4 months and
have an ongoing source of income selling the calves.
Lynda
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butter fat to their milk if you want to make cheese and butter. They are
more people friendly and usually become family pets. You can usually find
them for sale advertised as "family" cow.
You need to milk twice a day minimum for several reasons. One, they
"fill-up" on a twelve hour cycle. They are creatures of habit. They don't
care about daylight savings time or anything else. When it is the a.m.
time you choose, they will be standing there waiting for you and the same
goes for the p.m. time.
To get milk you need to raise a calf. We usually leave the calf with the
cow for the first week and then bottle feed it. A good cow will give more
milk than a calf can use. Seperate them and start the calf on pellets and
hay as soon as possible and then all the milk is yours. If you get too
much milk, that is great feed for a pig.
If you get tired of doing the milking thing, then you can usually turn a
Jersey into a nurse cow and foster calves on her every 3 to 4 months and
have an ongoing source of income selling the calves.
Lynda
----------
> From: Tracy Oldfield <tracy.oldfield@...>
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] cows
> Date: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 6:04 AM
>
> This is something I've thought about, not in terms of caring for one
> myself, but would it be feasible to milk cows more often than the
> usual dawn and dusk scenario? As someone interested in
> breastfeeding and therefore lactation generally, I wonder if it would
> make more milk/ creamier milk? and whether it would be practical
> to round up the cows three times a day instead of two.
>
> Just a thought rattling round my head. I sometimes this list is
> more unschooling us grown-ups than the kids <g>
>
> Tracy
>
> On 17 Jul 2000, at 6:42, Corallyn Berger wrote:
>
> > We moved out to the country late last year. One of the
> > things I plan to do on our 6acres is to raise a beef
> > cow. 400lb is a lota meat...and much cheaper and
> > better for you. I also want to have an herb garden and
> > a veggie garden. I would like to keep a milk cow for 1
> > year just so I can say that I know how to care for a
> > milk cow. From what I have heard it is a big
> > responsability, I think the kids would enjoy it.
> > Waiting till they are a bit older and more
> > independant, though. Corallyn
> >
>
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Tracy Oldfield
well i hope to have a new baby next year, and certainly don't intend
to let it stop us doing the regular trip to filey <g> good being an
island nation, it's hard to be more than 2 hours from the seaside :-)
Tracy
to let it stop us doing the regular trip to filey <g> good being an
island nation, it's hard to be more than 2 hours from the seaside :-)
Tracy
On 18 Jul 2000, at 9:56, Corallyn Berger wrote:
> I don't plan to do it for much more than a year
> because I want to be able to go on vacations as a
> family. We have never been away with the kids like
> that. We had planned at the first of the year to go to
> the Schliterbon in the Austin area in Sept. and to
> camp while we were there, but then I got pg. I am
> always either pg or have a new baby so we have never
> been away as a family on vacation. Oh well, maybe next
> year. Corallyn
>