Linda Dobson

I'm here, Vicki (not much of a poster, and during these busy days not even a very good "lurker!" <g>).

I conceded my  "expert" hat on this subject to Mark Hegener, who, after all, started homeschooling while I was only knee-high to a grasshopper <g>.  While he's equally as busy, he sent the following for me to share here:
  

Home Education Magazine wrote:

   I saw a number of reasons church schools fell on hard times. One
   reason has to do with the nature of 'schooling' by any delivery
   system. As tax law is concerned...During Jimmy Carter's administration
   (I remember it as 1979), with freshly legislated desegregation laws
   to enforce, it was determined that church schools were being used as
   a way to circumvent the law. To deal with this issue the tax exempt
   status was pulled. Many small as well as many larger church schools
   could not hold it together financially... and there was this thriving
   homeschool community welcoming all with open arms.

   You can argue until the cows come home about causation/determination
   etc. The thing that is clear is that as these families moved towards
   homeschooling our community bent over backwards to make them feel
   welcome. It was not until the political types who followed these
   families and, as their leaders, started to organize them into voting
   blocks that we saw problems.

   -- Mark
        Hope this helps...

Best,
Linda
 

"Vicki A. Dennis" wrote:

-----Original Message-----
From: David Albert <shantinik@...>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Date: Friday, July 07, 2000 8:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] A question for David

>>
>>  it was only later, in the 1980s when large numbers of
>> >> fundamentalists found their small church schools closed because of tax
>> >laws, that

Vicki:>>
>> can you explain more about how tax laws closed small church schools?  Was
>> this a problem only in certain areas or states?
>>
>> Are you referring to "tax laws"  denying exemptions if property was used
for
>> a commercial business?
>
>This one, as I understand it (Linda Dobson is the expert in this area.)

Is Linda on this list ?   (I sometimes get confused remembering where I have
seen folks)    If so,  could we   hear a bit more?   I am not arguing that
there was not a big increase in having school at home among certain
fundamentalist  groups.  My question concerns a mass shutdown of church
schools and whether that was a causative factor.

Vicki

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Shannon Brophy

Last week someone was making a list of kid's books with diverse ethnic
backgrounds.
We wanted to add The Bronze Cauldron :Myths and Legends of the World by
Geraldine McCaughrean to the list. There are 27 short tales from different
cultures.

Shannon

Vicki A. Dennis

Thanks Linda.   I'll go harass Mark :-) and see if HEM  published any articles on this phenomenon.
 
Something doesn't ring quite right (and I was living in West Texas in early 80's during  the Abilene or Amarillo or whatever court case  about just which part of property registered to a church was exempt from tax rolls).     Maybe I am misunderstanding what is being said and it can be cleared up with  further explanation.
 
Vicki---not wanting to blithely accept any more examples of  the evil government using its power to persecute and interfere with churches
-----Original Message-----
From: Linda Dobson <ldobson@...>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Date: Saturday, July 08, 2000 12:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Linda? was A question for David

I'm here, Vicki (not much of a poster, and during these busy days not even a very good "lurker!" <g>).

I conceded my  "expert" hat on this subject to Mark Hegener, who, after all, started homeschooling while I was only knee-high to a grasshopper <g>.  While he's equally as busy, he sent the following for me to share here:
  

Home Education Magazine wrote:

   I saw a number of reasons church schools fell on hard times. One
   reason has to do with the nature of 'schooling' by any delivery
   system. As tax law is concerned...During Jimmy Carter's administration
   (I remember it as 1979), with freshly legislated desegregation laws
   to enforce, it was determined that church schools were being used as
   a way to circumvent the law. To deal with this issue the tax exempt
   status was pulled. Many small as well as many larger church schools
   could not hold it together financially... and there was this thriving
   homeschool community welcoming all with open arms.

   You can argue until the cows come home about causation/determination
   etc. The thing that is clear is that as these families moved towards
   homeschooling our community bent over backwards to make them feel
   welcome. It was not until the political types who followed these
   families and, as their leaders, started to organize them into voting
   blocks that we saw problems.

   -- Mark
        Hope this helps...

Best,
Linda
 

"Vicki A. Dennis" wrote:

-----Original Message-----
From: David Albert <shantinik@...>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Date: Friday, July 07, 2000 8:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] A question for David

>>
>>  it was only later, in the 1980s when large numbers of
>> >> fundamentalists found their small church schools closed because of tax
>> >laws, that

Vicki:>>
>> can you explain more about how tax laws closed small church schools?  Was
>> this a problem only in certain areas or states?
>>
>> Are you referring to "tax laws"  denying exemptions if property was used
for
>> a commercial business?
>
>This one, as I understand it (Linda Dobson is the expert in this area.)

Is Linda on this list ?   (I sometimes get confused remembering where I have
seen folks)    If so,  could we   hear a bit more?   I am not arguing that
there was not a big increase in having school at home among certain
fundamentalist  groups.  My question concerns a mass shutdown of church
schools and whether that was a causative factor.

Vicki

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