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Stella,
My hubby and I were trying to eat less meat, but I was extremely tired, moody
and a few other things (not enough protein, I am assumming. I can't have to
much dairy my nursling gets sever gas cramps if I do) We went back to meat,
and the symptoms seems to be easing. I would love to eat less meat though.
It is a killer on our food budget.

Julie

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kworthen@... writes:

<<
soy soy soy! then you can have your protien and give up meat too. texured
veg protien in place of ground beef, etc. I don't even like the taste of
meat anymore, yuch >>


I am getting there as well, I have been trying really hard to eliminate meat
out of my diet.

susan g,.

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In a message dated 7/6/00 1:10:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
kworthen@... writes:

<< soy soy soy! then you can have your protien and give up meat too. texured
veg protien in place of ground beef, etc. >>

21modd can't have soy *or* dairy, or even seafood. How much beans and rice
can we eat?

candice
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Heaven knows what my id might do!"
Laura Hunt

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kworthen@... writes:

> I just recently became vegan. I've been veggie for some time now and had
> always wanted to become vegan, but found it somewhat difficult. Just last
> week however, I was diagnosed as being lactose intolerant. This made my
> choice pretty easy. I was also diagnosed with asthma, so consecquently I've
> given up all refined sugar for the sake of my immune system. White flour is
> next on my list. Who knows maybe, I'll end up going raw. :)

Not to be nosy and obnoxious, but what do you eat?

I'm trying to improve our diet and would like to move (gently) in this
direction, but I don't know how.

:-) Diane

Lynda

What does the soy do that she can't have it? Just curious as it is a bean.

Lynda

----------
> From: czuniga145@...
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re: Bacon etc./vegans
> Date: Thursday, July 06, 2000 1:34 PM
>
> In a message dated 7/6/00 1:10:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> kworthen@... writes:
>
> << soy soy soy! then you can have your protien and give up meat too.
texured
> veg protien in place of ground beef, etc. >>
>
> 21modd can't have soy *or* dairy, or even seafood. How much beans and
rice
> can we eat?
>
> candice
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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> Laura Hunt
>
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In a message dated 7/6/00 2:22:35 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
lurine@... writes:

<< What does the soy do that she can't have it? Just curious as it is a bean.
>>
For some reason she can't digest the proteins in milk or soy. When I was
nursing I had to eliminate all those (soy, dairy, seafood, eggs, nuts) things
from my diet as well. She's not allergic, by the technical definition, but
rather intolerant. She gets a bad tummy ache with diarrhea if she gets any of
these foods. Soy is in so many prepackaged foods, it's really hard to avoid.
She's rather a good meat eater though, and we've found rice cheese, milk, and
ice cream.


candice
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Heaven knows what my id might do!"
Laura Hunt

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In a message dated 7/6/2000 1:10:50 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
kworthen@... writes:

<< texured
veg protien in place of ground beef, >>

Can we get Quorn in the US? I used to eat this all the time in England so it
was easy to cut out the meat,.. But I've not seen it here... Anyone else seen
it?

DawnF

Tracy Oldfield

and GM soy is much more allergenic than 'regular' soy, too, and
guess what there's more of in infant formula milks...

Tracy (who's not allergic to anything except moidering kids...)

On 6 Jul 2000, at 17:34, Amy wrote:

soy is a very common allergen. i don't know why, but
it's one of the top 10
allergens
amy

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In a message dated 7/6/00 4:40:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, cen46624@...
writes:

<< Not to be nosy and obnoxious, but what do you eat?

I'm trying to improve our diet and would like to move (gently) in this
direction, but I don't know how.
>>
breathlessly awaiting your answer....hee hee hee
Julie

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In a message dated 7/6/00 6:00:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
czuniga145@... writes:

<< rice cheese, milk, and
ice cream. >>
candice,
Please pass along the name brands of these that she likes...we finally found
a Rice Slices that my little one likes.

Thanks,
Julie

Amy

Hi Stella,
I just recently became vegan. I've been veggie for some time now and had
always wanted to become vegan, but found it somewhat difficult. Just last
week however, I was diagnosed as being lactose intolerant. This made my
choice pretty easy. I was also diagnosed with asthma, so consecquently I've
given up all refined sugar for the sake of my immune system. White flour is
next on my list. Who knows maybe, I'll end up going raw. :)
Amy
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Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 3:37 AM
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re: Bacon etc./vegans


hello- all this talk of english bacon and chocolate, feel that I
must say that even though we live in england we don't eat any of
this.
we are vegans (strict vegeatarians) and we don't eat any animal
derived ingredients. so no bacon or cadburys chocolate!
any more vegans on the list?
stella


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<< Please pass along the name brands of these that she likes...we finally
found
a Rice Slices that my little one likes. >>

We found Rice Dream ice cream in 4 or 5 flavors at one of the larger local
health food stores. It's not bad for a milkshake IMO. The rice milk is the
same brand, and she likes it because since she's stopped nursing it's
basically the only thing she has had (except for a brief period of testing
dairy). We do have to add oil to it because it is so
low in fat though. I occassionally use it for cooking things that would have
no other potentially harmful ingredients for her. It also comes in vanilla
and chocolate flavors, too, but we haven't tried those.

candice

Amy

soy soy soy! then you can have your protien and give up meat too. texured
veg protien in place of ground beef, etc. I don't even like the taste of
meat anymore, yuch
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To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re: Bacon etc./vegans


> Stella,
> My hubby and I were trying to eat less meat, but I was extremely tired,
moody
> and a few other things (not enough protein, I am assumming. I can't have
to
> much dairy my nursling gets sever gas cramps if I do) We went back to
meat,
> and the symptoms seems to be easing. I would love to eat less meat
though.
> It is a killer on our food budget.
>
> Julie
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yeah the allergy thing can be tough. we've got dh and myself w/dairy, dd#1
penicillin (not a food, but can be deadly) and strawberries, dd#2 nuts and
dairy (and I suspect tomatoes), dd#3 severe nut and egg and now trying to
elim. dairy due to ear inf. Also me and all 3 kidlets w/asthma! boy i'm
tired now. :)
amy

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Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re: Bacon etc./vegans


> In a message dated 7/6/00 1:10:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> kworthen@... writes:
>
> << soy soy soy! then you can have your protien and give up meat too.
texured
> veg protien in place of ground beef, etc. >>
>
> 21modd can't have soy *or* dairy, or even seafood. How much beans and rice
> can we eat?
>
> candice
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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lettuce! no, just kidding :) we use all of the meat (and dairy) replacement
products we can get our hands on. morning star farms makes tons of them. my
kids even had meatless corn dogs for lunch yesterday! also tons of pasta.
for snacks we have fresh fruit, crackers, corn chips, etc. It's not as bad
as it sounds.
amy
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Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 1:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re: Bacon etc./vegans


> kworthen@... writes:
>
> > I just recently became vegan. I've been veggie for some time now and had
> > always wanted to become vegan, but found it somewhat difficult. Just
last
> > week however, I was diagnosed as being lactose intolerant. This made my
> > choice pretty easy. I was also diagnosed with asthma, so consecquently
I've
> > given up all refined sugar for the sake of my immune system. White
flour is
> > next on my list. Who knows maybe, I'll end up going raw. :)
>
> Not to be nosy and obnoxious, but what do you eat?
>
> I'm trying to improve our diet and would like to move (gently) in this
> direction, but I don't know how.
>
> :-) Diane
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soy is a very common allergen. i don't know why, but it's one of the top 10
allergens
amy
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Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re: Bacon etc./vegans


> What does the soy do that she can't have it? Just curious as it is a
bean.
>
> Lynda
>
> ----------
> > From: czuniga145@...
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re: Bacon etc./vegans
> > Date: Thursday, July 06, 2000 1:34 PM
> >
> > In a message dated 7/6/00 1:10:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> > kworthen@... writes:
> >
> > << soy soy soy! then you can have your protien and give up meat too.
> texured
> > veg protien in place of ground beef, etc. >>
> >
> > 21modd can't have soy *or* dairy, or even seafood. How much beans and
> rice
> > can we eat?
> >
> > candice
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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we've found rice cheese, milk, and
> ice cream

yum!
amy
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Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 2:52 PM
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> In a message dated 7/6/00 2:22:35 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> lurine@... writes:
>
> << What does the soy do that she can't have it? Just curious as it is a
bean.
> >>
> For some reason she can't digest the proteins in milk or soy. When I was
> nursing I had to eliminate all those (soy, dairy, seafood, eggs, nuts)
things
> from my diet as well. She's not allergic, by the technical definition, but
> rather intolerant. She gets a bad tummy ache with diarrhea if she gets any
of
> these foods. Soy is in so many prepackaged foods, it's really hard to
avoid.
> She's rather a good meat eater though, and .
>
>
> candice
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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i sent it. don't know why i hasn't posted yet. sometimes theses computers
get so screwed up.
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Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re: Bacon etc./vegans


> In a message dated 7/6/00 4:40:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
cen46624@...
> writes:
>
> << Not to be nosy and obnoxious, but what do you eat?
>
> I'm trying to improve our diet and would like to move (gently) in this
> direction, but I don't know how.
> >>
> breathlessly awaiting your answer....hee hee hee
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In a message dated 7/6/00 3:35:00 PM Central Daylight Time,
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<< 21modd can't have soy *or* dairy, or even seafood. How much beans and rice
can we eat?

>>
Candice, can she eat eggs? They are an excellent source of protein. Is she
able to digest sugar free peanut butter? ~Karen

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In a message dated 7/6/00 4:59:39 PM Central Daylight Time,
czuniga145@... writes:

<< For some reason she can't digest the proteins in milk or soy. When I was
nursing I had to eliminate all those (soy, dairy, seafood, eggs, nuts)
things
from my diet >>
Oops, after responding from your last post, I now read the answers to my
questions. ~Karen

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In a message dated 7/6/00 6:20:15 PM Central Daylight Time,
czuniga145@... writes:

<< It also comes in vanilla
and chocolate flavors, too, but we haven't tried those.
>>
Candice, the vanilla flavored Rice Dream milk is very good. But you are
right about the milks being so low in fat; they are pretty high in carbs,
which is why I cannot drink much of it-- it affects my blood sugar levels.
They do taste great in shakes! ~Karen

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In a message dated 7/6/00 7:37:50 PM Pacific Daylight Time, HPaulson5@...
writes:

<< can she eat eggs? They are an excellent source of protein. Is she
able to digest sugar free peanut butter? ~Karen >>

Wouldn't you know she refuses to even try eggs? We didn't give them to her
for the first 18 mos because we were told they were likely to cause a
reaction. Now she turns her nose up at them. We were told the same about nuts
and I haven't had the nerve to test for a reaction yet. Thanks for the
suggestions though.

candice

Lynda

Just curious, since it is a digestion thing and not an allergy thingy, have
you tried goat's milk? I know when we had goats we had lots of folks that
bought it because it is easier to digest than bovine dairy products.

Lynda

----------
> From: czuniga145@...
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re: Bacon etc./vegans
> Date: Thursday, July 06, 2000 4:17 PM
>
> In a message dated 7/6/00 4:08:58 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
Jaam1224@...
> writes:
>
> << Please pass along the name brands of these that she likes...we finally

> found
> a Rice Slices that my little one likes. >>
>
> We found Rice Dream ice cream in 4 or 5 flavors at one of the larger
local
> health food stores. It's not bad for a milkshake IMO. The rice milk is
the
> same brand, and she likes it because since she's stopped nursing it's
> basically the only thing she has had (except for a brief period of
testing
> dairy). We do have to add oil to it because it is so
> low in fat though. I occassionally use it for cooking things that would
have
> no other potentially harmful ingredients for her. It also comes in
vanilla
> and chocolate flavors, too, but we haven't tried those.
>
> candice
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czuniga145@... wrote:
It also comes in vanilla
> and chocolate flavors, too, but we haven't tried those.
>
> candice

Samantha says ..... the chocolate is fabulous and the vanilla is like
rice pudding in a glass.
She has eczema aggravated by dairy ... ( our own observations led to
this conclusions ).

We cut out 90% of the dairy in her life and her skin improved
dramatically in a matter of days.
Now she walks up to us and rubs the back of her hand across your cheek
and says " feeel, my hands are so smooooth and soft"

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Wouldn't you know she refuses to even try eggs?

my dd too. she can now tolerate when i eat them, but for the longest time
just what she would get via breasmilk would give her bloody diarrhea. yuck.
i'm ok with her not wanting to try them. i figure it's her body's way of
telling her it's not going to handle them well. i still concider her to have
an egg allergy and prob. always will. they say that if a child hasn't
outgrown an allergy by 2 then it most likely will be life long. i know this
isn't always the case, but with our recent switch to veganism, it's prob. a
moot point. :)
amy
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> In a message dated 7/6/00 7:37:50 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
HPaulson5@...
> writes:
>
> << can she eat eggs? They are an excellent source of protein. Is she
> able to digest sugar free peanut butter? ~Karen >>
>
> We didn't give them to her
> for the first 18 mos because we were told they were likely to cause a
> reaction. Now she turns her nose up at them. We were told the same about
nuts
> and I haven't had the nerve to test for a reaction yet. Thanks for the
> suggestions though.
>
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It comes in strawberry and banana also and the kidlets love those two. We
use the vanilla or plain to make fruit smoothies.

Lynda

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> Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re: Bacon etc./vegans
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> czuniga145@... wrote:
> It also comes in vanilla
> > and chocolate flavors, too, but we haven't tried those.
> >
> > candice
>
> Samantha says ..... the chocolate is fabulous and the vanilla is like
> rice pudding in a glass.
> She has eczema aggravated by dairy ... ( our own observations led to
> this conclusions ).
>
> We cut out 90% of the dairy in her life and her skin improved
> dramatically in a matter of days.
> Now she walks up to us and rubs the back of her hand across your cheek
> and says " feeel, my hands are so smooooth and soft"
>
> Buzz
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In a message dated 7/6/00 11:17:26 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
lurine@... writes:

<< Just curious, since it is a digestion thing and not an allergy thingy, have
you tried goat's milk? I know when we had goats we had lots of folks that
bought it because it is easier to digest than bovine dairy products.
>>
I don't know why we haven't tried that. I'll check with her doctor and give
it a try. It certainly would give us a lot more options for cheeses. Thanks
for the suggestion.

candice

Sonia Ulan

Hi Stella,

My husband is vegan and the rest of us are increasingly becoming so...I
still have a few vices, as do the children.

sonia


Stella wrote:
>
> hello- all this talk of english bacon and chocolate, feel that I
> must say that even though we live in england we don't eat any of
> this.
> we are vegans (strict vegeatarians) and we don't eat any animal
> derived ingredients. so no bacon or cadburys chocolate!
> any more vegans on the list?
> stella
>
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In a message dated 7/13/2000 2:41:29 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
sulan@... writes:

<< all this talk of english bacon and chocolate, feel that I
> must say that even though we live in england we don't eat any of
> this.
> we are vegans (strict vegeatarians) and we don't eat any animal
> derived ingredients. so no bacon or cadburys chocolate! >>

Hi all you Vegetarians/Vegans.... I've been reading avidly the information on
your food and was wondering if you could recommend any good vegetarian
cookbooks . I think we'd better start there. After speaking with hubbie last
night we've decided to go Vegetarian slowly over the next 6 months so any
help with how you do that what to cut out, what to replace it with, would be
very helpful. We already eat Morningstar Products and have Willow Run as our
"butter" but other suggestions or what to change and how to incorporate more
vegetarian meal would be wondeful. I don't really want to join a
Vegetarian-dotcom list (LOL)...

Dawn F

JK

Hi,fellow future vegetarian and unschoolers,

I love this subject of vegetarianism having gone this way myself in the last
year. Still working on the hubby, though. Anyway, some advice from a
newbie trying to eat vegetarian. We cut out the red meat first and I'm now
working on cutting poultry. At first, I tryed eating no meat at all but
found it very hard that way. This was does work for some though, I have
heard. As I gain more substitute recipes it is getting easier and easier to
cut out the old ones with the meat. I just found a meatless taco mix from
Trader Joe that I like.

Cheers,
Joyce


-----Original Message-----
From: NumoAstro@... [mailto:NumoAstro@...]
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2000 8:31 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re: Bacon etc./vegans


In a message dated 7/13/2000 2:41:29 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
sulan@... writes:

<< all this talk of english bacon and chocolate, feel that I
> must say that even though we live in england we don't eat any of
> this.
> we are vegans (strict vegeatarians) and we don't eat any animal
> derived ingredients. so no bacon or cadburys chocolate! >>

Hi all you Vegetarians/Vegans.... I've been reading avidly the information
on
your food and was wondering if you could recommend any good vegetarian
cookbooks . I think we'd better start there. After speaking with hubbie
last
night we've decided to go Vegetarian slowly over the next 6 months so any
help with how you do that what to cut out, what to replace it with, would be
very helpful. We already eat Morningstar Products and have Willow Run as
our
"butter" but other suggestions or what to change and how to incorporate more
vegetarian meal would be wondeful. I don't really want to join a
Vegetarian-dotcom list (LOL)...

Dawn F

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