David Albert

>
>
> Hmmm a definate Anglo presence .....
> My Grandfather was an immigrant Welshman and my Grandmother immigrated
> from Sunderland and they found each other over here in Canada ... so I'm
> * well anglicised * .
>
> Full English breakfast over here please!
>
> Buzz
>

Well, now that we are all focused on ancestors, maybe I can make a request
for some help!

I'm doing a workshop at the California Home-Education Conference in
August on homeschooling and diversity issues (I'm also doing one on race
and the new standards, two more usual homeschooling workshops, and my
homeschooling WITH gifted kids workshop) -- but for the first one, I'm
putting together a reading list of the best "immigration" (and growing up
put in a nationality) novels (and occasional non-fiction) -- I've often
found it best
that getting parents excited about diversity issues (literature being a
good way to do it) is the best way to make sure they engage their kids on
multicultural issues. (the books will be good for teenagers, too, of
course.)

At any rate, my reading list has Japanese-American, Chinese-American,
Laotian-American, Jewish-American, Quaker (given who I am),
Armenian-American
Mexician-American, American Indian, African-American, and
Norwegian-American contributions thus far. I'm looking for (especially)
Italian-American, Polish-American, Asian Indian-American, and
German-American novels. Suggestions welcome -- and don't worry -- I read
them ALL before adding to the list

My favorite one is the extraordinary Norwegian-American novel "Giants in
the
Earth" by a towering giant of American literature, Ole Rolvaag, who is
almost totally unknown outside Norwegian circles. ("Giants in the Earth",
incidentally, was actually written in Norwegian, and then translated,
collectively, with Rolvaag in the lead, by the faculty of St. Olaf's
College in Northfield, Minnesota.)

Anyhow, "Giants in the Earth" is about the journey of 5 Norwegian
families to a totally unsettled part of South Dakota, and their efforts
in making a wholly new life for themselves. It is psychologically
gripping in its depiction of what it must have been like for people to
head out almost totally into the unknown, and their different responses
to it. It is absolutely stunning in its depiction of the landscape, the
seasons, and encounters between ethnic groups as they searched for a new
place (both outer, and inner) to call home.

But, anyhow, how I (re)discovered this book is an interesting little
story. I actually read it once before, when I was 14, and a sophomore in
high school. I HATED IT, and made fun of it for the next 30 years! Now,
you have to get the picture: I was a Jewish New Yorker at an all-male
high school for science nerds in Manhattan. The school at the time was
about 85-90% Jewish, 5% Asian, and a smattering of everyone else. I knew
exactly one Norwegian (his name was Hans Olsen, of course, and he may
have been the only real blonde in the school.) My "western relatives",
who we saw only at weddings and funerals, lived in Cranford, New Jersey.
(To the day he died, I think my grandfather thought that Indiana was the
capital of Iowa). And this was basically the case for 95% of the school.
The teacher was universally hated -- old Mrs. Hegarty. I think she
wanted to expose us to other cultures, or to rest of America, or some
such, but it went totally over our heads (and she was absolutely no help)
-- we felt more comfortable in the Africa of Conrad's Heart of Darkness
than we did in South Dakota! (I have funny stories about what I thought
agriculture was about at the time -- some other time!) At the time, it
simply seemed like "theater of the absurd" -- people traveling through
grass fields (no roads) at 2 miles an hour on carts drawn by oxen to
(what seemed to me -- and which is magnificently presented in the book)
absolutely nowhere. Now, 35 years later, I can fully appreciate how
absolutely extraordinary the book really is, as well as the people it
describes who left Norway to settle the upper Midwest.

So, anyhow, when I began to lead workshops on diversity and multicultural
issues, I quickly became aware that I knew more about the feelings of
American Indians, African Americans, etc., as expressed in literature,
than I did about the European settlers of middle America! Your
suggestions will be most welcome.

Thanks for your help!

david


> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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> Darryl, Debbie, what has been learned has been
> Kathleen, Nathan & forgotten"
> Samantha B.F. Skinner in "New Scientist".
> e-mail- klement@...
> Canadian homeschool page: http:\\www.flora.org/homeschool-ca/
> Ont. Federation of Teaching Parents: http:\\www.flora.org/oftp/
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Bonnie Painter

I don't really have any suggestions for you David, but I wanted to mention
that perhaps you forgot Irish-American?

Thanks,

Bonnie


>From: David Albert <shantinik@...>
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] immigration literature
>Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 16:56:20 -0700
>
> >
> >
> > Hmmm a definate Anglo presence .....
> > My Grandfather was an immigrant Welshman and my Grandmother immigrated
> > from Sunderland and they found each other over here in Canada ... so I'm
> > * well anglicised * .
> >
> > Full English breakfast over here please!
> >
> > Buzz
> >
>
>Well, now that we are all focused on ancestors, maybe I can make a request
>for some help!
>
>I'm doing a workshop at the California Home-Education Conference in
>August on homeschooling and diversity issues (I'm also doing one on race
>and the new standards, two more usual homeschooling workshops, and my
>homeschooling WITH gifted kids workshop) -- but for the first one, I'm
>putting together a reading list of the best "immigration" (and growing up
>put in a nationality) novels (and occasional non-fiction) -- I've often
>found it best
>that getting parents excited about diversity issues (literature being a
>good way to do it) is the best way to make sure they engage their kids on
>multicultural issues. (the books will be good for teenagers, too, of
>course.)
>
>At any rate, my reading list has Japanese-American, Chinese-American,
>Laotian-American, Jewish-American, Quaker (given who I am),
>Armenian-American
>Mexician-American, American Indian, African-American, and
>Norwegian-American contributions thus far. I'm looking for (especially)
>Italian-American, Polish-American, Asian Indian-American, and
>German-American novels. Suggestions welcome -- and don't worry -- I read
>them ALL before adding to the list
>
>My favorite one is the extraordinary Norwegian-American novel "Giants in
>the
>Earth" by a towering giant of American literature, Ole Rolvaag, who is
>almost totally unknown outside Norwegian circles. ("Giants in the Earth",
>incidentally, was actually written in Norwegian, and then translated,
>collectively, with Rolvaag in the lead, by the faculty of St. Olaf's
>College in Northfield, Minnesota.)
>
>Anyhow, "Giants in the Earth" is about the journey of 5 Norwegian
>families to a totally unsettled part of South Dakota, and their efforts
>in making a wholly new life for themselves. It is psychologically
>gripping in its depiction of what it must have been like for people to
>head out almost totally into the unknown, and their different responses
>to it. It is absolutely stunning in its depiction of the landscape, the
>seasons, and encounters between ethnic groups as they searched for a new
>place (both outer, and inner) to call home.
>
>But, anyhow, how I (re)discovered this book is an interesting little
>story. I actually read it once before, when I was 14, and a sophomore in
>high school. I HATED IT, and made fun of it for the next 30 years! Now,
>you have to get the picture: I was a Jewish New Yorker at an all-male
>high school for science nerds in Manhattan. The school at the time was
>about 85-90% Jewish, 5% Asian, and a smattering of everyone else. I knew
>exactly one Norwegian (his name was Hans Olsen, of course, and he may
>have been the only real blonde in the school.) My "western relatives",
>who we saw only at weddings and funerals, lived in Cranford, New Jersey.
>(To the day he died, I think my grandfather thought that Indiana was the
>capital of Iowa). And this was basically the case for 95% of the school.
>The teacher was universally hated -- old Mrs. Hegarty. I think she
>wanted to expose us to other cultures, or to rest of America, or some
>such, but it went totally over our heads (and she was absolutely no help)
>-- we felt more comfortable in the Africa of Conrad's Heart of Darkness
>than we did in South Dakota! (I have funny stories about what I thought
>agriculture was about at the time -- some other time!) At the time, it
>simply seemed like "theater of the absurd" -- people traveling through
>grass fields (no roads) at 2 miles an hour on carts drawn by oxen to
>(what seemed to me -- and which is magnificently presented in the book)
>absolutely nowhere. Now, 35 years later, I can fully appreciate how
>absolutely extraordinary the book really is, as well as the people it
>describes who left Norway to settle the upper Midwest.
>
>So, anyhow, when I began to lead workshops on diversity and multicultural
>issues, I quickly became aware that I knew more about the feelings of
>American Indians, African Americans, etc., as expressed in literature,
>than I did about the European settlers of middle America! Your
>suggestions will be most welcome.
>
>Thanks for your help!
>
>david
>
>
> > --
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > The Klement Family "Education is what survives when
> > Darryl, Debbie, what has been learned has been
> > Kathleen, Nathan & forgotten"
> > Samantha B.F. Skinner in "New Scientist".
> > e-mail- klement@...
> > Canadian homeschool page: http:\\www.flora.org/homeschool-ca/
> > Ont. Federation of Teaching Parents: http:\\www.flora.org/oftp/
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>and
>workshops related to "And the Skylark Sings with Me". For dates, and
>locations, check out my website at www.skylarksings.com or send an e-mail
>to
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Sorry -- GREAT! Can somebody help?

David

Bonnie Painter wrote:

> I don't really have any suggestions for you David, but I wanted to mention
> that perhaps you forgot Irish-American?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bonnie

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Vicki A. Dennis

>>From: David Albert <shantinik@...>
>>Reply-To: [email protected]
>>To: [email protected]
>>Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] immigration literature
>>Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 16:56:20 -0700


>>My favorite one is the extraordinary Norwegian-American novel "Giants in
>>the
>>Earth" by a towering giant of American literature, Ole Rolvaag, who is
>>almost totally unknown outside Norwegian circles.

(long snippity)

>>But, anyhow, how I (re)discovered this book is an interesting little
>>story. I actually read it once before, when I was 14, and a sophomore in
>>high school.


I was sooooooo glad you added about your rediscovery. When you first
spoke of it being so unknown I wondered if my memory of that title from a
high school literature anthology was mistaken. It was just an excerpt
and I don't remember the details except being disturbed by the reading.
I "think" it came up again in a college survey course of American
Literature.......... even if written in Norwegian to begin, is Rolvaag
considered an American author?

Can you provide more description (offlist if you like) of exactly what you
are looking for in book suggestions? Adult rather than "children's"
books? Mostly geared to nationality? Any particular time frame?
First generation immigrant experiences (even if told by later authors) or
later communities maintaining particular heritage as well as blending?.
Just trying to get a feel for what you are looking for.

Am also wondering if you perhaps plan other reading lists that deal with
other than immigration.............looking at "diversity issues" as also
arising from class, urban v. rural, economic status, age, stability
vs. mobility among regions within the U.S. ,or even gender!

Ever read The Dollmaker by Harriet Arnow?

Vicki

Lynda

What books/authors do you have un American Indian on your list?

Lynda

----------
> From: David Albert <shantinik@...>
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] immigration literature
> Date: Tuesday, July 04, 2000 4:56 PM
>
> >
> >
> > Hmmm a definate Anglo presence .....
> > My Grandfather was an immigrant Welshman and my Grandmother immigrated
> > from Sunderland and they found each other over here in Canada ... so
I'm
> > * well anglicised * .
> >
> > Full English breakfast over here please!
> >
> > Buzz
> >
>
> Well, now that we are all focused on ancestors, maybe I can make a
request
> for some help!
>
> I'm doing a workshop at the California Home-Education Conference in
> August on homeschooling and diversity issues (I'm also doing one on race
> and the new standards, two more usual homeschooling workshops, and my
> homeschooling WITH gifted kids workshop) -- but for the first one, I'm
> putting together a reading list of the best "immigration" (and growing up
> put in a nationality) novels (and occasional non-fiction) -- I've often
> found it best
> that getting parents excited about diversity issues (literature being a
> good way to do it) is the best way to make sure they engage their kids on
> multicultural issues. (the books will be good for teenagers, too, of
> course.)
>
> At any rate, my reading list has Japanese-American, Chinese-American,
> Laotian-American, Jewish-American, Quaker (given who I am),
> Armenian-American
> Mexician-American, American Indian, African-American, and
> Norwegian-American contributions thus far. I'm looking for (especially)
> Italian-American, Polish-American, Asian Indian-American, and
> German-American novels. Suggestions welcome -- and don't worry -- I read
> them ALL before adding to the list
>
> My favorite one is the extraordinary Norwegian-American novel "Giants in
> the
> Earth" by a towering giant of American literature, Ole Rolvaag, who is
> almost totally unknown outside Norwegian circles. ("Giants in the Earth",
> incidentally, was actually written in Norwegian, and then translated,
> collectively, with Rolvaag in the lead, by the faculty of St. Olaf's
> College in Northfield, Minnesota.)
>
> Anyhow, "Giants in the Earth" is about the journey of 5 Norwegian
> families to a totally unsettled part of South Dakota, and their efforts
> in making a wholly new life for themselves. It is psychologically
> gripping in its depiction of what it must have been like for people to
> head out almost totally into the unknown, and their different responses
> to it. It is absolutely stunning in its depiction of the landscape, the
> seasons, and encounters between ethnic groups as they searched for a new
> place (both outer, and inner) to call home.
>
> But, anyhow, how I (re)discovered this book is an interesting little
> story. I actually read it once before, when I was 14, and a sophomore in
> high school. I HATED IT, and made fun of it for the next 30 years! Now,
> you have to get the picture: I was a Jewish New Yorker at an all-male
> high school for science nerds in Manhattan. The school at the time was
> about 85-90% Jewish, 5% Asian, and a smattering of everyone else. I knew
> exactly one Norwegian (his name was Hans Olsen, of course, and he may
> have been the only real blonde in the school.) My "western relatives",
> who we saw only at weddings and funerals, lived in Cranford, New Jersey.
> (To the day he died, I think my grandfather thought that Indiana was the
> capital of Iowa). And this was basically the case for 95% of the school.
> The teacher was universally hated -- old Mrs. Hegarty. I think she
> wanted to expose us to other cultures, or to rest of America, or some
> such, but it went totally over our heads (and she was absolutely no help)
> -- we felt more comfortable in the Africa of Conrad's Heart of Darkness
> than we did in South Dakota! (I have funny stories about what I thought
> agriculture was about at the time -- some other time!) At the time, it
> simply seemed like "theater of the absurd" -- people traveling through
> grass fields (no roads) at 2 miles an hour on carts drawn by oxen to
> (what seemed to me -- and which is magnificently presented in the book)
> absolutely nowhere. Now, 35 years later, I can fully appreciate how
> absolutely extraordinary the book really is, as well as the people it
> describes who left Norway to settle the upper Midwest.
>
> So, anyhow, when I began to lead workshops on diversity and multicultural
> issues, I quickly became aware that I knew more about the feelings of
> American Indians, African Americans, etc., as expressed in literature,
> than I did about the European settlers of middle America! Your
> suggestions will be most welcome.
>
> Thanks for your help!
>
> david
>
>
> > --
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > The Klement Family "Education is what survives when
> > Darryl, Debbie, what has been learned has been
> > Kathleen, Nathan & forgotten"
> > Samantha B.F. Skinner in "New Scientist".
> > e-mail- klement@...
> > Canadian homeschool page: http:\\www.flora.org/homeschool-ca/
> > Ont. Federation of Teaching Parents: http:\\www.flora.org/oftp/
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> >
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-----Original Message-----
From: David Albert <shantinik@...>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Date: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 9:30 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] immigration literature


>>
>> Ever read The Dollmaker by Harriet Arnow?
>>
>
>No! Tell me more!
>
>David
>


It was assigned in a literature course I took at Boston University in about
1975. I found in gripping, touching, almost an overload of food for
thought. Some class members found it overwhelmingly boring, depressing,
and tedious. While I carried it with me and read on the subway and
everywhere else, some admitted to being unable to finish it. It is
set during the large migration from Appalachia to Detroit during World War
II. In one of the reviews at Amazon.com a reader notes that it was
read 10 years ago and never forgotten. Could be like Giants in the
Earth ------readers will love it or hate it and may have different reactions
in different periods of their lives.

Vicki

David Albert

Lynda wrote:

> What books/authors do you have un American Indian on your list?
>
> Lynda
>

My favorite (for this purpose) is Michael Dorris, "Yellow Raft in Blue
Waters". Other suggestions appreciated.

David

David Albert

>
> I was sooooooo glad you added about your rediscovery. When you first
> spoke of it being so unknown I wondered if my memory of that title from a
> high school literature anthology was mistaken. It was just an excerpt
> and I don't remember the details except being disturbed by the reading.
> I "think" it came up again in a college survey course of American
> Literature.......... even if written in Norwegian to begin, is Rolvaag
> considered an American author?

Rolvaag lived most of his life in America (Northfield, Minnesota to be exact)
and was a Professor at St. Olaf College (where the library is named after him.)

>
>
> Can you provide more description (offlist if you like) of exactly what you
> are looking for in book suggestions? Adult rather than "children's"
> books?

Adult only! (young adult considered). I am looking for books which will
imaginatively engage parents in American subcultures with which they are
unfamiliar, and provide the fuel for getting them (the parents!) to explore
further, either "in the flesh" or through books.


> Mostly geared to nationality?

At best, yes. The purpose is not to inform parents about immigration (as
worthy as that might be), but to help them (us!) see beyond our own blinders.


> Any particular time frame?

No.


>
> First generation immigrant experiences (even if told by later authors) or
> later communities maintaining particular heritage as well as blending?.

Will consider either. William Saroyan is a good example of an author who does
all 3, with the Armenian-American community in Fresno, California.

>
>
> Am also wondering if you perhaps plan other reading lists that deal with
> other than immigration.............looking at "diversity issues" as also
> arising from class, urban v. rural, economic status, age, stability
> vs. mobility among regions within the U.S. ,or even gender!

No. This list is an extension of my work on race issues. I am not suggesting
that those are not equally worthy subjects, just not what I am working on at
this time.

>
> Ever read The Dollmaker by Harriet Arnow?
>

No! Tell me more!

David

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workshops related to "And the Skylark Sings with Me". For dates, and locations,
check out my website at www.skylarksings.com or send an e-mail to
shantinik@...

Bonnie Painter

Now that I understand better what you are looking for, I would have to
recommend Angela's Ashes for the Irish-American book.


>From: David Albert <shantinik@...>
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] immigration literature
>Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 07:25:02 -0700
>
>
>
> >
> > I was sooooooo glad you added about your rediscovery. When you first
> > spoke of it being so unknown I wondered if my memory of that title from
>a
> > high school literature anthology was mistaken. It was just an
>excerpt
> > and I don't remember the details except being disturbed by the reading.
> > I "think" it came up again in a college survey course of American
> > Literature.......... even if written in Norwegian to begin, is Rolvaag
> > considered an American author?
>
>Rolvaag lived most of his life in America (Northfield, Minnesota to be
>exact)
>and was a Professor at St. Olaf College (where the library is named after
>him.)
>
> >
> >
> > Can you provide more description (offlist if you like) of exactly what
>you
> > are looking for in book suggestions? Adult rather than "children's"
> > books?
>
>Adult only! (young adult considered). I am looking for books which will
>imaginatively engage parents in American subcultures with which they are
>unfamiliar, and provide the fuel for getting them (the parents!) to explore
>further, either "in the flesh" or through books.
>
>
> > Mostly geared to nationality?
>
>At best, yes. The purpose is not to inform parents about immigration (as
>worthy as that might be), but to help them (us!) see beyond our own
>blinders.
>
>
> > Any particular time frame?
>
>No.
>
>
> >
> > First generation immigrant experiences (even if told by later authors)
>or
> > later communities maintaining particular heritage as well as blending?.
>
>Will consider either. William Saroyan is a good example of an author who
>does
>all 3, with the Armenian-American community in Fresno, California.
>
> >
> >
> > Am also wondering if you perhaps plan other reading lists that deal with
> > other than immigration.............looking at "diversity issues" as
>also
> > arising from class, urban v. rural, economic status, age,
>stability
> > vs. mobility among regions within the U.S. ,or even gender!
>
>No. This list is an extension of my work on race issues. I am not
>suggesting
>that those are not equally worthy subjects, just not what I am working on
>at
>this time.
>
> >
> > Ever read The Dollmaker by Harriet Arnow?
> >
>
>No! Tell me more!
>
>David
>
>--
>I will touring the East Coast September 1-19, giving homeschooling talks
>and
>workshops related to "And the Skylark Sings with Me". For dates, and
>locations,
>check out my website at www.skylarksings.com or send an e-mail to
>shantinik@...
>
>

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Correction!!!
That should be University of Massachusetts at Boston, NOT BU.

Vicki---shaking head and wondering if these memory problems get even
worse.........


-----Original Message-----
From: Vicki A. Dennis <mamaxaos@...>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Date: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] immigration literature


>It was assigned in a literature course I took at Boston University in about
>1975.

Vicki A. Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: Amy <kworthen@...>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Date: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 11:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] immigration literature


>Are you still in MA Vicki? We live in Lowell.
>Amy


Nah. I was just there for a few months in 74, then for the 75-76 school
year. Mostly in Boston but visiting people and places throughout New
England and upstate NY. This native Texan found it stimulating and
interesting but NEEDED to return to a place where she could see the
horizon, where it did not get dark as early as 5 pm and where "slow" or
"relax" was not seen as a negative!. Of course, in the intervening 25
years there is more of a blending of regional characteristics everywhere.
I hear you can even get iced tea or Dr. Pepper there now---and find
enchiladas not made with mozzarella for the cheese!

I am just outside Austin, TX now-----also known as Silicon Hills---and
watching a major migration.

Vicki

P.S.: David, you might want to read Hard Living on Clay Street for
consideration if later you make lists about how people live very different
lives even in close proximity. It is set in Washington D.C. (or just
outside) and is non-fiction.

David Albert

Thanks! I knew Frank McCourt's memoir, but it had slipped my mind!

Bonnie Painter wrote:

> Now that I understand better what you are looking for, I would have to
> recommend Angela's Ashes for the Irish-American book.
>

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Dia Garland

Regarding _Giants of the Earth_, I just recently saw this book at a friend's
house, and she told me her husband's family has a connection with the
author's family that goes way back. I can't remember exactly what it was, I
was helping her move at the time and didn't listen very carefully! I
*think* the homestead is near here.

Dia

Dia Garland

> Now that I understand better what you are looking for, I would have to
> recommend Angela's Ashes for the Irish-American book.


And _'Tis_, the sequel to it. I ***loved*** these books!

Dia

Amy

Are you still in MA Vicki? We live in Lowell.
Amy
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 8:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] immigration literature


> Correction!!!
> That should be University of Massachusetts at Boston, NOT BU.
>
> Vicki---shaking head and wondering if these memory problems get even
> worse.........
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vicki A. Dennis <mamaxaos@...>
> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> Date: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 10:09 AM
> Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] immigration literature
>
>
> >It was assigned in a literature course I took at Boston University in
about
> >1975.
>
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I recently read Ernest and Julio: Our Story by Ernest and Julio Gallo (with
somebody) and loved it!

It had a bunch about being 2nd generation Italian immigrants.

:-) Diane

Lynda

Samll world, hubby is from Brockton and his mother was born in Lowell.

Lynda

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Amy <kworthen@...>
> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> Date: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 11:55 AM
> Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] immigration literature
>
>
> >Are you still in MA Vicki? We live in Lowell.
> >Amy

Amy

hi linda ,
i think you told me that way back when i joined this list too. i know i
asked you then, but of course forgot. where are you now? do you still have
friends/relatives in lowell? if you ever get this way , let me know.
amy (who thinks she may have just had a brief recolection that you're in
western ma)?
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Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 11:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] immigration literature


Samll world, hubby is from Brockton and his mother was born in Lowell.

Lynda

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> Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] immigration literature
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> >Are you still in MA Vicki? We live in Lowell.
> >Amy


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We're in CA and haven't got back to MA yet. Hubby has 2 sisters and a
brother out there hiding somewhere and enough relatives to sink a
battleship <g> and is related to a good percentage of MA, NC, NJ and Nova
Scotia.

And, you're right, I think that mommy brain has set in and I forgot that we
did this before <g>

Lynda

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> From: Amy <kworthen@...>
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> Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] immigration literature
> Date: Thursday, July 06, 2000 6:57 AM
>
> hi linda ,
> i think you told me that way back when i joined this list too. i know i
> asked you then, but of course forgot. where are you now? do you still
have
> friends/relatives in lowell? if you ever get this way , let me know.
> amy (who thinks she may have just had a brief recolection that you're in
> western ma)?
> ----- Original Message -----
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> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 11:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] immigration literature
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> Samll world, hubby is from Brockton and his mother was born in Lowell.
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> Lynda
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Amy <kworthen@...>
> > To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> > Date: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 11:55 AM
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